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    Just got home from seeing it. Heath deserves the Oscar. Phenomenal performance!! He managed to make the Joker a psychopath you actually felt some compassion for. Amazing. We truly lost a rare talent with him.
    Speak for yourself!! That guy was absofreakinlutley NUTS!
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    Speak for yourself!! That guy was absofreakinlutley NUTS!
    Yes he was...but the point in this one(as opposed to Jack Nicholson who was a thug who killed Bruce Waynes parents and who fell into acid during a crime)is that he became the Joker because of horrible abuse by his father that makes you kind of understand him more

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    Yes he was...but the point in this one(as opposed to Jack Nicholson who was a thug who killed Bruce Waynes parents and who fell into acid during a crime)is that he became the Joker because of horrible abuse by his father that makes you kind of understand him more
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    I don't think so. He changed his story later. He was made to be a compulsive liar.. so we don't know if that story was true.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CKXXX View Post
    Yes he was...but the point in this one(as opposed to Jack Nicholson who was a thug who killed Bruce Waynes parents and who fell into acid during a crime)is that he became the Joker because of horrible abuse by his father that makes you kind of understand him more
    He actually gives two "origin stories" in the movie. Giving a hint at it but never actually telling which one if any are the real reason or just some story he'll tell to make his point.
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    The Joker is notorious for being manipulative.

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    Though many have been related, a definitive backstory has never been established for the Joker in the comics, and his real name has never been confirmed. He has been portrayed as lying so often about his former life that he himself is confused as to what actually happened.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post
    The Joker is notorious for being manipulative.

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    Though many have been related, a definitive backstory has never been established for the Joker in the comics, and his real name has never been confirmed. He has been portrayed as lying so often about his former life that he himself is confused as to what actually happened.
    Exactly.

    A lot of the influence for The Dark Knight character came from "The Killing Joke" in the comics.

    But as she said, he's just got no definitive origin story. Some have tried, none have stuck.
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    The storyline confused the hell outta me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Machismo View Post
    Exactly.

    A lot of the influence for The Dark Knight character came from "The Killing Joke" in the comics.

    But as she said, he's just got no definitive origin story. Some have tried, none have stuck.
    You could definately see the influence of "The Killing Joke" in Heath Ledger's performance. I still love the joke he tells to Batman in that comic:

    See, there were these two guys in a lunatic asylum... and one night... one night they decide they don't like living in an asylum any more. They decide they’re going to escape! So like they get up on to the roof, and there, just across the narrow gap, they see the rooftops of the town, stretching away in moon light... stretching away to freedom. Now the first guy he jumps right across with no problem. But his friend, his friend daren't make the leap. Y'see he's afraid of falling... So then the first guy has an idea. He says "Hey! I have my flash light with me. I will shine it across the gap between the buildings. You can walk across the beam and join me." But the second guy just shakes his head. He says... he says "What do you think I am, crazy? You would turn it off when I was half way across."
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    theres this quote from the joker that says "if I'm going to have a past, I'd prefer it to be multiple choice!", so none of the stories must be true. No one knows where he's from or why he acts the way he does.

    Also something that stuck to me about the Joker was, in the animated series, when some all-powerful character asked villains to give their souls to him in exchange for anything they desired, the joker sold his soul for....a pack of cigarettes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Machismo View Post
    He actually gives two "origin stories" in the movie. Giving a hint at it but never actually telling which one if any are the real reason or just some story he'll tell to make his point.
    True...but it give you a hint at what lies beneath....without actually knowing. Makes him more human and less of a caricature. Which actually makes him scarier....because he's more real and less cartoony as a psychopath.

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    theres this quote from the joker that says "if I'm going to have a past, I'd prefer it to be multiple choice!", so none of the stories must be true. No one knows where he's from or why he acts the way he does.

    Also something that stuck to me about the Joker was, in the animated series, when some all-powerful character asked villains to give their souls to him in exchange for anything they desired, the joker sold his soul for....a pack of cigarettes.
    Also, when Scarecrow used his Fear Gas on him in the comics, it was shown the Joker had no fear!! I like how the Scarecrow was in this film.

    I was fully expecting to see Harley Quinn as well.


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    ^I'm sure all the fanfics will write in Harley...

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    I like how the Scarecrow was in this film.
    ??? He was in it for like a second!

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    The eyeliner thing was annoying me too! It made it seem like he was someone, but he really wasn't. Strange.

    The main girl annoyed me too. She acted like she was nicole kidman or julia roberts, some one big name...but she's not. It seemed like she was always smiling or happy no matter what she was saying. Like she had no depth as her character.

    It was a GREAT movie though. So good it made me stressed out afterwards that some crazy-ass was going to be a copy-cat joker and kill my ass. It's pretty cool when you get into a movie that much.

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    OK, now I'm curious to see it, but I have to ask: how gory is it? I've never seen any of the Batman films, so not sure what to expect. Dark, creepy and suspenseful is great, but I can't handle graphic bloody gore at all.
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    The eyeliner thing was annoying me too! It made it seem like he was someone, but he really wasn't. Strange.
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    If you google images of him(Nestor Carbonell) you see that he pretty much always looks like that...weird...

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    OK, now I'm curious to see it, but I have to ask: how gory is it? I've never seen any of the Batman films, so not sure what to expect. Dark, creepy and suspenseful is great, but I can't handle graphic bloody gore at all.
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    Hardly at all. Its much more dark psychological drama ..less gore.

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    Hardly at all. Its much more dark psychological drama ..less gore.
    ooh, awesome. OK, looks like I'm going to see it.
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    I haven't seen it yet, but my inner geek squeals with glee that Nestor Carbonell is the Mayor. He was Batmanuel on The Tick, people! Genius! He's been in a ton of stuff, actually. Most people probably know him as Richard (of The Others) from Lost. He always looks like he's wearing eyeliner, too.
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    ??? He was in it for like a second!
    Yes but supervillian cameos are always good to maintain believaility.


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    Movie was amazing. Heath's performance is not hype, he was that good. Definitely should have been rated R.

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    What was it rated in America? It was MA15+ here.


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    PG-13

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    Well finally saw it and Heath was amazing, I concur a truly great talent was lost.
    RIP Heath. He was quite attractive!

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    It was a PG13 movie.

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