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    And just to play devils advocate..he says autism is "overdiagnosed"....even if that were 100% true...that still means that there ARE cases of real autism ...which means he totally contradicted himself.
    What a horses ass. And sadly he has a following large enough to keep him on the air...which means he isnt the only one who thinks this way.

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    Very stupid, IMHO. If he wanted to suggest that autism was diagnosed too often by doctors, he should have supported his point with data. Instead, he relied on the reaction he'd certainly get from making such remarks. I can't stomach the man, but heard about this on the news.

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    I've always hated that fucktard. Now I loathe him more. I'm on the autistic spectrum, and I was a fucking model child.

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    What a complete moron.

    Autism is very real. Let's hope he never has to face that. A co worker has an autistic child and it is not a joke.

    What an ignorant human.

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    those are the type of people i'd like to hit in the face with a hammer.

    i work at a school for autistic kids. one of the best in the country. yeah, theyre just brats who need to cut it out

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    Wow!!! What a cock-sucker!!!

    Now if he was talking about ADD/ADHD on the otherhand I'd tend to agree. Now those kids just need a beating and some proper food!! Even though my brother has it... he got the beatings and proper food and his still had (/has) it so meh??
    (There's something wrong with him at any rate and this is what they say it is?? Otherwise I'd say I COMPLETELY agree.)

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    I've never even heard of this guy. But I mean - I don't know. It's almost too stupid to get upset about. "In my readings" - like in his extensive readings about autism, on which he has undertaken a scholarly interest? Puh-shaw. And there is no "definitive medical definition" for lots of diseases - epilepsy is another one, isn't it? Like someone should just smack them and say "stop having seizures! Be a man!"

    Is autism over-diagnosed? I don't know. Maybe I have a wrong understanding of what autism is? Because I'm remembering a case I read and I'm having a hard time imagining how a kid who is "bad" could possibly be misdiagnosed as autistic.
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    Now if he was talking about ADD/ADHD on the otherhand I'd tend to agree. Now those kids just need a beating and some proper food!!
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    autism-spectrum disorders are the new "hot" diagnosis but that doesn't make this man any less of a douchebag. I think he just says shit to keep his name around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post


    those are the type of people i'd like to hit in the face with a hammer.

    i work at a school for autistic kids. one of the best in the country. yeah, theyre just brats who need to cut it out
    I was hoping you'd chime in on this one!
    I mean..ok..so obviously movies arent real life..BUT...has this guy even SEEN Rain Man??? What part of that guy looked like you could just smack him and tell him to knock it off and he'd be normal??

    Yes,autism is diagnosed a LOT more today...because we know more about it and all the myriad levels it appears on. Yes, when he was a kid you didnt ever hear about anyone being autistic...the kid was just retarded or weird or put away in a hospital or mental institution. NOW we know more about what it is...so it gets an actual diagnosis and treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CKXXX View Post
    I was hoping you'd chime in on this one!
    I mean..ok..so obviously movies arent real life..BUT...has this guy even SEEN Rain Man??? What part of that guy looked like you could just smack him and tell him to knock it off and he'd be normal??

    Yes,autism is diagnosed a LOT more today...because we know more about it and all the myriad levels it appears on. Yes, when he was a kid you didnt ever hear about anyone being autistic...the kid was just retarded or weird or put away in a hospital or mental institution. NOW we know more about what it is...so it gets an actual diagnosis and treatment.
    there are a TON of reasons autism is more diagnosed today. last night i didnt even know what to say to this, haha.

    -there is less stigma related with having an autistic child. the parents arent blamed the same way they were in the past, so they are more willing to label their child.
    -labeling the child autistic can get them soo much help that they wouldnt get otherwise (funding, programs, etc)
    -the schools benefit from the diagnosis
    -like CK said, the child was called retarded or crazy before, whereas now they have a name for it
    -the spectrum is so broad, it includes many more things now than in the past, so the rate of children affected seems like it has gone up, when really there are just more "levels" of autism

    but, like jenny, i dont even know who this guy is either. i didnt even read past the beginning of what CK posted because it's so ludicrous. so maybe this was said somewhere by this ignorant man, but has he ever MET an autistic child? or autistic ADULT, for that matter?

    HOWEVER.. there are some people who ARE misdiagnosed with autism because that's what their parents cling to. that's almost easier than their child being retarded. there was a kid in my class last year that was testing as mentally retarded.. however, he would've lost his funding, and there would've been a lot of things that changed if his coding was changed. he was really just severely autistic.. it's hard to explain. but there are misdiagnosed children out there - not in the way this guy says, though.

    i also like to stay out of autism conversations because i feel very strongly about my views and opinions (because, lets face it, there are many conflicting "facts" about autism and i have to choose which theories i believe) and i tend to take things very personally when it comes to this topic. not only do i work there, but my mom's best friend's son is autistic, and he's like my brother. so this hits really close to home for me and i can get pretty fired up.

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    For those who dont know him:The Savage Manifesto. http://michaelsavage.wnd.com/?pageId=404

    Some of the highlights:

    Make abortions illegal, except when the physical survival of the mother is threatened, to be determined by three medical doctors.

    Encourage child bearing among tax paying citizens

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    oh and his real name is Michael Alan Weiner...more appropriate I think...

    Oh..and his son owns Rockstar energy drink...

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    What a douche-weiner. Someone should have aborted him.

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    Oh. my god. I can see people saying that about depression and ADHD, but Autism is COMPLETELY different. wtf. I guess the girl I know that was so sensitive to sound she'd never move her fingers from her ears was just a behavior problem.

    I couldn't even read all of that. My sister is mildly autistic. Even if it weren't personal with me, how can you be so stupid? He obviously doesn't know the first thing about Autism.
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    Just another big-mouthed, small-brained retarded shock jock.

    It could have made a bit more sense if he had commented about ADHD instead of autism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKXXX View Post
    For those who dont know him:The Savage Manifesto. http://michaelsavage.wnd.com/?pageId=404

    Some of the highlights:

    Make abortions illegal, except when the physical survival of the mother is threatened, to be determined by three medical doctors.

    Encourage child bearing among tax paying citizens

    Cause illegal aliens to build a wall between the United States and Mexico, and then, repatriate them. Pay them a one-time worker fee.

    oh and his real name is Michael Alan Weiner...more appropriate I think...

    Oh..and his son owns Rockstar energy drink...

    ok i'm boycotting rockstars now. that angers me so much because i would like to see him raise an autistic child!! plus, with any form of mental retardation there are different degrees, from mild to severe. my mother used to teach a class that was specifically for children with autism. she always said that the school-day was extremely difficult, but her respect for the parents was so great (for the obvious reasons). it's really sad to see a lack of compassion (or absolute stupidity for that matter) on the part of people, even if they are just trying to get ratings or reactions, i mean COME THE FUCK ON!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubyredlipsss View Post
    plus, with any form of mental retardation there are different degrees, from mild to severe.
    autism isn't a form of mental retardation. it sounds like that's what you're saying.. maybe i'm reading wrong.

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    i meant that there are degrees of it, like w/ forms of mental retardation, if that makes sense? i wrote that quickly and was just trying to make a distant comparison. that not every autistic child has the same abilities, some won't even speak while others have brilliant abilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubyredlipsss View Post
    i meant that there are degrees of it, like w/ forms of mental retardation, if that makes sense? i wrote that quickly and was just trying to make a distant comparison. that not every autistic child has the same abilities, some won't even speak while others have brilliant abilities.
    yeah, i just read it like you were saying autism is a form of mental retardation. but it's a spectrum disorder, so yeah i get what you mean!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubyredlipsss View Post
    ok i'm boycotting rockstars now.
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