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    Hey guys,

    I am currently a SC DJ.

    So things have been really up and down at my club, and many times the girls will leave without tipping me, or give me a hard time with tips. I try to be super helpful and accommodating to the girls, and some definitely tip me fairly, but others don't (maybe because I'm the new guy).

    How do you conduct yourselves around the girls? I try to be nice, open, playful and a bit flirty if they're playful and flirty to me, and hard working. I make sure I play all their songs in the right order, remind the customers to tip, etc.

    Like everyone else, we've been hit by the downturn in the economy.

    I usually go around to all the girls when my shift is over, and tell them that I'm about to leave, and they'll usually tip me then. Sometimes I have to say something about a tip "If I could just tip out from you, that would be great babe!", but sometimes (especially if the girl isn't a real earner), she will give me attitude. One girl doesnt seem to like me cause I saw her leaving out the front door with her regular clothes on, and I followed her and asked her for a tip out, and she said I was being very pushy and that she was going to tip me (she was paying her house fees though, and about to literally leave, and she did without tipping me!).

    We don't have minimum tipouts at our club...

    Any suggestions? Anyway to make asking for tips less awkward, especially for girls who don't pull in much $$ (I don't think they like to talk about how much they're making if they do poorly, and it just gets awkward)?

    Any tips from dancers would be greatly appreciated too!

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: ATTN: DJs, Best way to get tips from dancers?

    This thread is pretty much from dancer's POV, but lots of 'these are the reasons I WILL tip' gong on too.

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    Default Re: ATTN: DJs, Best way to get tips from dancers?

    OP, what is the minimum tip out? Or are you trying to get more than that?

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    I don't have much advice but I'm always more likely to tip more to a DJ if he says thank you. There is one DJ I always tip $10 to and he always says "Thank you so much, Julia. I really appreciate it!" The other two DJs I give $5 to and they just take it and say "okay, bye."

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    It was probably said in the other thread, but I'll reiterate... being "playful and flirty" may NOT be the way to go... there are one or two DJ's who can do this with me (mainly 'cause they're adorable), but if all DJ's did this with me I'd have a major problem. Why don't you try acting more professional with the dancers and earning some more respect? Maybe they're tired of being objectified by their male employees as well as the customers and a change of attitude on your part could help.

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    Default Re: ATTN: DJs, Best way to get tips from dancers?

    I hate to be hounded for tips. It seems even when I am having a horrible night, everyone still expects a tip no matter what....this really gets on my nerves. Just try to be courteous to all the dancers and do your job the best that you can and you will earn your tips, but be patient not everyone has a stellar night.

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    since you're in the DJ booth, you have a pretty good view of who is getting dances and who isn't, if you notice a girl isn't getting dances, and then she doesn't tip you, or doesn't tip you more than minimum- tell her it's okay if she doesn't tip you that night, and you hope she has a better night the next time she works- she'll appreciate it that you're not trying to take another 10 dollars out of her 100-200 shitty take-home, and will remember you next time she has a good night and feel obliged to help you out.

    I had ONE dJ who did this for me when I had bad nights, if I made under 200 dollars, he would always just tell me to get him next time- and i would, I tipped him 50 the next time i worked and i only made 300 that time, but it really meant a lot to me that he didn't hound me when i had been having a bad night.
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    Flirting with me when I don't really know you just creeps me out. I have guys try to paw all over me and try their lines on me every night, so having a staff member do it too gets on my nerves. If I've been working with you for a while it's a little different, but I'm talking about months of working together.

    If there are no minimum tipouts where you work, and a girl doesn't feel like tipping you, there's not really anything you can to do force her to. Yeah, most of the time they'll tip you, but chasing girls out the door while they're leaving and asking for tips is going to piss off more than a couple dancers.

    For the record I've never *not* tipped a dj, regardless of whether or not there was a minimum, but I sure as hell have been tempted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peanutbutter1234 View Post

    We don't have minimum tipouts at our club...
    So what's the problem? Especially when/if they know there is no minimum tipout. Min tipout means $0 is ok.

    If you are having a problem w/ the $0 minimum arrangement, then That IMO is something you should take up with management. You should at least be getting paid a minimum. Also, are you an employee, or independent contractor?

    If you see a girl leaving in her street clothes, why not say, "Cinammonkisses to the DJ booth please" and she'll come up there and meet you.
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    Ladies- Remember he said he is playful and flirty WHEN THE GIRL IS PLAYFUL AND FLIRTY. I mean sure, I would hate a DJ flirting with me but if I flirted first, can you really blame him?

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    Default Re: ATTN: DJs, Best way to get tips from dancers?

    Perhaps if there is no minimum tipout, they assume you make good money w/o their tips.

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    Yeah haha, way to assume the worst of me guys.

    I'm nothing but super professional and nice to the girls. I only act flirty if they're that way first. I'm not objectifying them or trying to be their best friend - I'm just trying to do my job the best way possible. If they want to be friends, thats cool too, but I don't force myself on anyone.

    They're not tipping me because they're not really making any money I realize. I worked from 12 to 7 today, and I think there were about 5 lap dances total

    Our club has gotten super slow; looks like its my time to either leave the business or find a new club

    Yeah, there is no minimum tipout, so today I got $2 in tips TOTAL.

    I do watch who is getting dances, and yeah, very few girls are getting dances, and the ones who did spent the money in house fees and tipping out the manager, so there was nothing left for me or them.

    About 9 girls worked today, and like I said, only 1 made enough to tip me and that was $2.

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    well then you'd be better off being a waiter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peanutbutter1234 View Post
    Yeah haha, way to assume the worst of me guys.

    I'm nothing but super professional and nice to the girls. I only act flirty if they're that way first. I'm not objectifying them or trying to be their best friend - I'm just trying to do my job the best way possible. If they want to be friends, thats cool too, but I don't force myself on anyone.

    They're not tipping me because they're not really making any money I realize. I worked from 12 to 7 today, and I think there were about 5 lap dances total

    Our club has gotten super slow; looks like its my time to either leave the business or find a new club

    Yeah, there is no minimum tipout, so today I got $2 in tips TOTAL.

    I do watch who is getting dances, and yeah, very few girls are getting dances, and the ones who did spent the money in house fees and tipping out the manager, so there was nothing left for me or them.

    About 9 girls worked today, and like I said, only 1 made enough to tip me and that was $2.
    Yea, looks like you got bamboozled. They hired you to fill a slot that they KNEW wasn't going to pay the bills. You're basically doing volunteer work for these people. I suggest you find employment elsewhere..







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    Quote Originally Posted by peanutbutter1234 View Post
    I try to be nice, open, playful and a bit flirty if they're playful and flirty to me
    being playful and/or flirty to me OR any of the other dancers isn't going to put you in my favor. i won't stiff you, but i won't tip you as well as i could either. if you give "back rubs" that's even worse.

    it comes across as sleazy and unprofessional IMO. sorry.

    you get tipped well from me by:

    -generally playing what i like (and im flexible when need be)

    -paying ATTENTION. this means not "forgetting" to introduce me. it also means not accidentally letting a song run for 4-5 minutes because you're flirting with another dancer.

    -being drama free (you are SWEDEN in the club)/professional/and kind. treat me with respect (which doesn't mean kissing my ass either, so don't take it that way) and i'll do the same for you.

    -talk to me like a peer, not a retarded child. we can have conversations like adults. far too often men (djs/managers/floormen/etc) patronize the dancers. we're not all idiots. so, no baby talk. you don't need to call me sugar/baby/honey every 5 words either.

    the djs we have right now are all great. they come in, do their job, are kind without being sleazy, etc. i tip them all very well. it's a good thing too, because the last 3 we had before these were douchebags.
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    Default Re: ATTN: DJs, Best way to get tips from dancers?

    also:

    about money right now...

    depending on your area, it's very likely that most of the clubs (if not all of them) are in the same boat as the one you're in. i know dancers and djs in other clubs in my area and right now they are ALL making shit.

    i also want to point out that dances don't always mean everything. there are plenty of days when i don't do a single dance and i tip the dj a 20 because i made enough to do so through conversation tips/regulars.

    a lot of dancers will stiff the DJ unless they make money off dances. i personally think that's crap, but i know it's common. the only time i stiff the dj is if he does something reallllllllllllllllllly out of line or if i make less than 50 bucks (neither of which happens too often). even if i only make 50 i'll AT LEAST give a 5... and if i LIKE the dj i will make up for it the next time i make money by tipping more than my usual % if i can.

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    I'm playful/flirty with maybe 2 or 3 girls there, only because they were this way first.

    I know douchebags, and I'm not one.

    The rest I treat like adults with lots of respect and friendship (if they put out the signs of friendship first). Otherwise I do my job, play all the songs correctly, introduce all the girls - I've gotten many compliments about how I'm a good DJ.

    I have good knowledge that most of the girls in my club aren't even pulling in 50 on shifts this week.

    I need to leave this job! I doubt things will turn around there anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinammonkisses View Post
    Yea, looks like you got bamboozled. They hired you to fill a slot that they KNEW wasn't going to pay the bills. You're basically doing volunteer work for these people. I suggest you find employment elsewhere..
    Yeah. Or talk to your boss about imposing a minimum tip out of $10. But I'd bounce.

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    I guess the thing is here do I look for another job in the industry as a DJ, or go into something else...I do have a college degree, but not much work experience, and I've had a tough time finding anything in my field with the economy being so terrible.

    I realize also that my entire club has been hit by the downturn. I was talking to one of the dancers yesterday, and she said she used to make $100 minimum during dayshifts (and usually $300 each day for Sunday and Monday). This past few weeks, the most shes made one day is like $80.

    The night shift DJ is pulling in even less than me some nights! Same with the managers. I know most of the girls there are making less than me most days. At least I get paid an hourly wage (of minimum wage)!

    A matter of a month or two ago our club was doing well (this is around when I started).

    Do you guys see the industry ever coming back around?

    I applied for a DJ job at another place and I didn't get it because someone with more experience beat me out (although right now, I'm know I'm much better, the other DJs that have years of experience there have complimented me), but even at that club when I applied it was dead there.

    Basically, is the whole industry fucked? Is now the time to get out?

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    Ummmm, I'm going to sidestep the other little debates in this thread to comment on how badly you say everyones doing. IF YOU KNOW THEY"RE MAKING LESS THAN YOU, WHY WOULD YOU BE ASKING US FOR WAYS TO GET MORE $$$ OUT OF THEM?

    Its one thing to ask that, when there's the occassional bad day, and the occassional money repellant girls stiffing you, but when you KNOW already its the club, and the industry, and others are doing worse, why get greedy? You can't get blood from a stone, none of the advice on what does and doesn't help dancers will actually DO anything when the potential isn't there in the first place. Seems like common sense.
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    ^^^

    THANK YOU!

    Wait, the most these girls are making in a day is EIGHTY DOLLARS and you want them to tip you out? No offense, but that's just cruel. I'm assuming you make at least that or more every day you work right?

    I think it's time you look for a new club but honestly, please don't ask those poor girls for money...I mean, for instance that girl you chased down in the hall? She was probably feeling like shit about herself after making no money and just wanted to get out of there without being hasseled or embarassed.

    I'm sure you don't mean any harm, you just don't know better, but now you do.
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    Well, I certainly don't go after any girls who aren't making any money.

    The other day there were 9 girls on the floor, and I only asked 2 for a tipout, because they were the only ones I saw doing dances. I see just about everything happening in there, and I know who to ask and who not to ask for a tipout. Don't worry; I know how to use common sense!

    Today though was very busy, and every single girl tipped me out (I was actually shocked about this, because like I said, its been so slow). The industry is very up and down I guess; every other week is busy at our club. I think its due to people getting paid every other week? We're not really sure...

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    I really think you need to ask your boss to impose a minimum tip. I've never worked a club without one of these, usually $10.

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    well first off dude talk to the boss. 2nd you make minimum wage which is 5.25 to 5.75 right now i belive. These girls get naked for a buck pick your battles wisely young dj but but the best way is not to hunt them down just to remember that you work for them so the harder you work the more you will make. but like some bosses no matter how hard you work you never get a raise.


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