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    Default club a vs club b - what to do?!

    ok.. here's my pro/con list for the new club.

    CLUB A:
    PROS:
    - flat tipout rate. club B you pay per dance. i made 800 before tipout tonight (which is 100 but he only charged my 50 since it was my first night, so i bought an outfit for 50). my best friend at club B told me she made 200 tonight and had the most dances.
    -much much better music
    - no ex bf or drama (well the drama could come but i havent seen it with anyone)

    CONS:
    -they can touch your boobs. i HATE this. SUPER uncomfortable with it and i already have no sex drive as it is. really, really, really dont like it.
    -you have to go on stage a lot. they do 2 stages, 1 song on each stage.. so if there are 15 girls you go up every 15 songs. no dj, so you have to watch for when your turn is coming up. at club B theres no rotation.. they grab a random girl and say hey go up.. and you dont get pulled away from customers or lap dances.
    -set hours. they close at 2. period. busy or slow. club B calls "last girl" and then it's lap dancing only.. anywhere from 1-2 on weeknights and after 2 on weekends.. so if you have a guy who wants 15 more dances he can do them. and if its dead they'll close so you arent sitting around doing nothing.

    i wish i could work at both. but i cant. ive been at club B for a year and i'm a top girl there. but the load of AWFUL new girls is making it really shitty lately and the money is down. i know its work and its about money but its not just that easy to me, because i am close with my manager and my best friend works there, plus im close with the owners wife and im friends with the owner. (like i go to his kids bday party and im babysitting her next month.) i feel like theyre right in saying its a slap in the face for me to quit on them.. because they have done a lot for me. ive been in the owners face, drunk, telling him i hated him and his fucking club bc i had gotten in a fight with my ex. and he was really calm about it and asked how he could make me want to stay. whenever ive had a problem and gone to him with it, he tells me he loves me and does not want me to leave blah blah.. he's been really reasonable when sometimes i'm not. so it may be work, but its not that easy bc these are people i care about and i ENJOY going to see at work. it's hard, though, bc those friendships get in the way of making rules and stuff.

    so.. what would you do? the touching thing is a BIG deal with me. yeah its more money (though this money used to be easy at my club too.. its just slow now ) but i dunno if im going to adjust to that contact level. they can touch at club B, but only your butt and legs etc.. no crotch or boobs. i do NOT like having my boobs groped.. not one bit.

    ETA: also - while i doubt that i'd be told i CAN'T come back if i went to club A for a while, it is a possibility. they're kind of "rival" clubs and i know thats why club A wants me so bad. they want to take girls from club B and our owner is reeeeal touchy when it comes to girls going there to work. esp since i didnt tell him and just did it. my manager knows, though, i think, and he did tell me in the past that it is a possibility our owner may say i can't come back. which i knew.. i dont think it'll happen but it could.

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    Default Re: club a vs club b - what to do?!

    That is a hard decision. Though IMHO your owner gave YOU the 'slap in the face' when he refused to fire your out-of-control ex who was causing all the problems.

    If he asked you "what can we do to make you stay?" but refused to actually DO the one thing that would make a difference (and something that would help the club in general, b/c wasn't your ex making drama that involved other people too?)...sounds like lip service. And if he actually is close with you and respects you, then what's with the manager saying that he might not let you come back?

    If you do leave the club, don't feel bad about reacting to his actions by doing what's best for you.
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    Default Re: club a vs club b - what to do?!

    but he CAN'T fire him. like honestly. my ex is the owner's daughter's godfather, and these people have known each other literally their ENTIRE lives. i understand that he ISN'T going to fire him. he can't really do that. and that's understandable. if he fired everyone who had petty relationship issues or drama there would be no one left. myself included. the dynamics of this club are different than anywhere else you've ever heard of, i swear.

    he wants me to stop working my exes night, which isnt fair and i will only agree to if i can be allowed to work somewhere else that one night. which i know wont happen. but my ex isnt really the biggest factor here.. the money and the touching are the biggest things on my mind.

    as for not coming back.. the other club is my clubs "rival" club. its a weird story.

    it isnt really about feeling bad bc of the owner. there are other factors, like i said.

    and my ex isnt even the only one causing drama.. the entire club is a huge cesspool of negative energy and drama. sounds like common sense but like i said the touching is a BIG, BIG thing with me. not to mention, the grass is always greener.. i havent SEEN the drama at club A but a girl who i HATED (the one who pulled the whole "its ok to talk about your friends as long as its behind their back and they dont find out" shit) is at club A now. that could be drama waiting to happen.

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    Default Re: club a vs club b - what to do?!

    Oh, well then that's even tougher and I have no idea. Did you end up going to Scores, or are you talking about another club? I can't imagine those two clubs being competition, as far away from each other as they are.

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    Default Re: club a vs club b - what to do?!

    nope, not scores. i can pm you. but the distance isnt the issue, either.

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    Default Re: club a vs club b - what to do?!

    I think you need to go to club A. Your ex is gonna continue to drive you crazy and this is a great way to get away from that drama and have a fresh start. Also, you don't ever HAVE to let anyone touch you. You made 800 tonight, maybe that woulda been 700 if you didn't allow touching? Maybe still the same.(still great money right?) You are soo pretty and hot and you can totally call the shots, you will still bank even with boundaries (and some guys pay more for girls who stick to theirs). I think the choice is simple...but are you sure your ex isn't part of the reason you might wanna stay at club B? You guys have history and it seems like he is a big part of your life (albeit negative) but just from all your other posts (tell me to eff off if this is outta line) sounds like you might still wanna be around him.. maybe subconsciously?. i dunno.

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    Default Re: club a vs club b - what to do?!

    I agree about club A (I'll PM you, I'm thinking of one of two clubs). You could always talk to customers about no touching?
    I'm really starting to miss dancing actually Esp. since I'm starting to get into good shape again.
    Even though I did well at your previous club that night, I just don't feel comfortable there..
    and my old club in WV, well I don't know. I've heard the manager (who's also part owner) wants out...and he's the only thing good going for that club.
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    Default Re: club a vs club b - what to do?!

    yeah I'd stay at the new place. If you dont allow touching...maybe you'll make $100 or $200 less..Still WAY better then the old place AND no ex drama( which is HUGE...considering how much stress I know this has caused you).

    More money + no drama = ding ding ding!!

    Dont allow them to grope if it makes you uncomfortable...just tell guys honestly that you JUST had surgery and they are too new so it would be painful. That way..you arent the "prude" who wont let them do what the other girls do....theres a REAL reason!! SO it may not affect your sales that way.

    And look at more stage as a workout...so you have to go to the gym less...meaning that you have more free time when you arent working!!

    And since your schedule is so hectic..it may be nice to have a set close time every night so you can plan better...if you have to get up early...that sleep may be worth more to you then a few more dances.

    Sounds like win-win to me!!!

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    Default Re: club a vs club b - what to do?!

    All things considered I'd go with Club A.

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    Default Re: club a vs club b - what to do?!

    to me, though, it really comes down to 2 things - money vs touching. not my ex. and like i said, drama kinda follows me haha.. and that girl HATES me.

    i get 30 per dance. so no, i wouldnt make a hundred less.. i'd prob make a lot less. i dont think i'm even ALLOWED to not let them touch me. the manager told me to have a few drinks and i'd get used to it. the reason guys go there is BECAUSE touching is allowed. my friends who work there told me its "not a big deal" but yeah, to me, it is. its not like an extra that i wouldnt allow, its the norm that i'd be saying no to.

    as for the surgery.. i got "i'll be gentle" one, before i thought of that excuse, was like literally rubbing my scars.. i was like uh yeah about that...

    it's just really out of my comfort level.

    please, guys, i know youre trying to help.. but i knew people were going to make my ex the biggest consideration, and automatically say to go so i wouldnt see him. but that isn't MY biggest factor and it's not like i'm desperate to get out of my club. i'm working there tonight and maybe the new place tomorrow. then i'm going on vacation anyway.

    is it weird if i ask my mom? lol.

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    Default Re: club a vs club b - what to do?!

    Well..considering how much you post about how miserable your ex makes you...why WOULDNT that be a consideration??

    And you do NOT HAVE to let them touch. Try it for a night telling them they cant touch because you are still sore from surgery..see how it affects your money. If its still better...then you know.

    With all the drama AND less money at the other place..why would you want to go back? The touching? Dont feel like you have to allow it. You are an independent contractor and NOBODY can tell you that you have to let ANYONE touch you where you dont want to be touched.

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    because to ME, my biggest consideration is not him. i'm a big girl. work and personal life should be separate. he can make me miserable til he's blue in the face outside of work, but when we are at work i cant hold that against him.

    sure, i may not HAVE to let them touch. but when that is what guys GO there for, you cant really tell them no.

    it's a combination of a lot of things. nothing in particular and not just about money. i dont know that there isnt drama there.. i was there once. nobody sees what goes on behind the scenes after one night.

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    Default Re: club a vs club b - what to do?!

    I think your comfort level should be the most important consideration-with the boyfriend and the touching.

    Maybe there is a club c out there somewhere you'll like better?

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    nah.. i came up with a temporary solution that im not going to post. anyone who wants to know i can pm them

    as for club c.. haha you know whats out there! i wont work at a club that serves alcohol. thats just healthier for me. i know myself and i know that i am better off not risking it. which reeeally limits my options. but regardless of touching, ex boyfriends, money, anything.. i refuse to work in a plce with alcohol (right now) because i know what that does to me.

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    i quit.

    so.. i was planning on just doing what i wanted til i got caught and dealing with it when/if it happened. working at both clubs.

    i got to work and told my manager, who is someone i have considered a good friend, he's my best friend's boyfriend (of 4 years), and i've told him things that i havent even told her, that i was taking off wed/sat starting immediately. those are my exes nights. he says fine, but when the owner finds out that i'm working somewhere else, i was going to have to make a decision. he said he "didnt know anything" but he was just warning me.

    i was like wait, who told you? though i wouldnt lie to him anyway. he said he "just knew." whatever. so i asked why he was mad at me, and he said because he thought i was a decent person and i lied to him. my ex has been telling him all this crazy stuff (LIES) and i was really hurt that my friend believed him. he knows how nuts he is. but he said he THOUGHT i was a decent person and couldnt believe the way i was acting.

    ok. whatever. i said i'd tell the owner at the end of the night i was taking a break for a while.

    i'm so upset all night, my stomach is in knots and i'm nervous, and i wasn't really doing well. i pay for a dance and take my change. my manager asks why i have an attitude. i told him i didnt, i havent said a word to him, how do i have an attitude? he said i GAVE HIM ATTITUDE IN THE WAY I TOOK MY CHANGE. and by the way, i owed him $40 for last night. i was like nooo you knew i was taking off and the owner said it was ok.. he said that the owner doesnt know where i was last night.

    i have NEVER had a fine. NEVER. not ONCE. that was like the ultimate slap in the face. i am so hurt that he would do that. i was HONEST with him and that's the thanks i get? i couldve lied right to his face. since he thinks im a liar anyway

    so yeah.. i told the owner and he said i'm welcome back whenever i want.

    whatever. i'm super upset right now. so yeah, no i told you so's. i dont care how badly you need to say it.

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    I'm sure he "just knew", when you told him you weren't going to be working Wed/Sat, effective immediatly.

    Be happy that all that drama is going to be a thing of the past now. Fresh start, new club! If you were a top girl there, you can work your way to being a top girl somewhere else as well. A new club is probably just what you need. Good luck.
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    Like she said^^^ A fresh start! You deserve a lower drama life. That place Chock full of it!
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    Yeah, I'm kinda late but I hope you're happier at the new club. I knew you'd mosey over there eventually. PM my nosey ass when you get a chance so I can get all the details.
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