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    It's been on my mind for awhile. I love animals, but I also like meat. (sorry). I think factory farms are evil. The deer population in this area is such that it would be way more responsible to hunt game for meat instead, you know? Also, no shortage of partridges and rabbits.

    I used to fish with my dad when I was younger. I know I need to take a course for gun licensing, and then I have to apply for a hunting permit. I have NO idea how to go about learning to do this, though. It seems to be quite the boys' club. There isn't anyone I know who hunts.

    How should I go about this? Just how naive am I being, exactly? I have a very high tolerance for blood and whatnot. I used to deal with animal entrails for a living.

    Also, because I don't love guns, this guy was telling me at work about how he hunts with a bow. I don't need a license for a bow, just the hunting permit. But I'm thinking, wouldn't it be more cruel to clumsily maim an animal with a bow? I don't know.

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    You can go to an outfitter or a ranch, often times they teach. I learned from my dad, personally. Before you go gettin yer hunt on, take shooting/bow lessons, then try to find hunting classes.
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    I'm a vegetarian. And I'm not a fan of this post - but if you want info, I'll give you my best. Factory farms are horrible for animals, the enviorment and the consumer. Hunting, is a bit kinder. Like Hitler vs. Jack the Ripper.

    So, if you're going to hunt for meat - hunt for MEAT. Most hunters want to take down the biggest buck they can for a "trophy". Big antlers or something. A good hunter just looking for dinner (any apex predator) would kill the sick, elderly or otherwise undesirable animal. That's nature. In nature, big healthy, antler-ed deer would survive and pass on those great genes to the next generation. Hunters fuck that up.

    DO NOT use a bow. You're not going to kill anything with one arrow unless you're Robin Hood. Seriously, you're just hurting the animal and making in limp and struggle, desperately in pain untill you can get a better shot. That's horrible.

    If you're really just looking for a dead animal to eat - well there's always roadkill. But If you're gonna do it, please do it as humanely as possible.

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    Actually, I have yet to go on a hunt with a bow and NOT have the kill taken down with one arrow. But that's just more fuel to the Train Lots fire, which is always a plus in such situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post

    DO NOT use a bow. You're not going to kill anything with one arrow unless you're Robin Hood. Seriously, you're just hurting the animal and making in limp and struggle, desperately in pain untill you can get a better shot. That's horrible.
    Not true, but since you are a veggies; you obviously do not hunt and would not know that.
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    poor innocent animals that are going to be killed out of selfish fascination!!!

    If you want to murder thing just become a butcher




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    My Dad started taking me deer hunting at age 10. (I was born and raised in Wisconsin). I can tell you, it was good times! I don't think I'm tough enough to do it now (way too uncomfortable to sit in a deer blind in the pre-dawn hours!), but I would try to find a friend or a friend of a friend to show you how...I'm sure you'll have NO problem finding a guy to take you along!

    Gutting your first deer will be an experience (I remember running back to the farm house, freaked out), but just like anything, you will get used to it. PM me if you want
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    Come here, I'll teach you! Okay, not really, but... the best thing is to learn from someone who knows.



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    One of my piano students is learning to hunt. You basically just have to take a gun safety course and then you get licensed. I'm sure you could find this information on government websites. If you can't let me know and I'll take a look because I thought about it before and found the website.

    But I just know about getting licensed. If you want to become a good hunter I have no idea LOL

    And I completely agree with hunting as a source of food. If I was going to eat meat (and I don't for health reasons, not animal rights reasons) I would much rather eat meat from an animal that was able to live a natural life in the wild with a fair chance at life. I would not feel good eating meat from a factory farm where the animal's life is miserable from the day he is born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pookie View Post
    poor innocent animals that are going to be killed out of selfish fascination!!!

    If you want to murder thing just become a butcher
    Hmmmm as far as I know, a butcher sells meat that's already been killed. Didn't she say she was doing it to be kinder to animals? Her reason for hunting is to be less cruel instead of paying a factory farm to kill animals for her. And to eat the meat...which isn't "fascination", more about survival. For fuck's sake, she's Canadian. I don't know if anyone in that climate can be expected to be vegan or vegetarian. lol

    Molly, if you want to come down here and visit, I'm sure my father would be MORE than happy to help a gorgeous blonde stripper learn how to hunt. He lives almost completely in the woods.

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    I always found hunting superbly boring. Waking up at 3 am to get to the campsite, then waking up at 3am to go to the hunting site to sit and wait and be quiet and wait and HOPE you've come in early enough in the off season to set up your area(s) correctly and the deer will be your way.

    *sigh*

    On a side note, I always got a lot of reading down. haha.

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    I could def never kill any animal. But I do eat meat so I agree with the idea of killing for food. But killing for sport is just plain disgusting, I mean what's enjoyable or talented about ending the life of an innocent animal?
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    Okay, in case it wasn't clear, I don't have a blood lust and I'm not a sadist. I worked on a farm for years and I cried my fucking eyes out when they shot the steer. I don't believe in killing for sport. I don't think that's what I said in the OP either. I *do* believe in taking responsibility and figuring out, ethically speaking, where one's food is coming from. I don't think animals have a right not to be killed, but I do think they have a right not to life a life of mindless torture.

    A few weeks ago I almost died when I swerved my car on the highway because I didn't want to kill a chipmunk.

    I've been vegetarian before, and I scarcely eat meat at all right now. I get anemic; I don't absorb non-animal based iron or B12. Far as I can tell, it'd be more responsible to try to find a source of meat that is fair as possible. Something that's lived a natural-ish life. I wouldn't be hanging antlers on my wall! I'm probably going to just try for partridges, in any case. And I wouldn't try it until I was confident I could do it without maiming everything. Anyway. I mean, what's worse, the typical American diet of packaged meat twice a day, or finding one's own source that you eat maybe once a week? I don't want to offend people, but I want you to consider what I'm saying, insofar as it comes from a place of compassion and not 'wow, killing things is cool'.

    I mean, I support vegetarianism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    Hunting, is a bit kinder. Like Hitler vs. Jack the Ripper.
    That's a stupid comparo. Kinda like me sayin' vegetarians are not quite as extreme as PETA, but they are like Jack the RIpper while PETA is like Hitler.

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    Most hunters want to take down the biggest buck they can for a "trophy". Big antlers or something.
    No they don't.

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    (any apex predator) would kill the sick, elderly or otherwise undesirable animal. That's nature. In nature, big healthy, antler-ed deer would survive and pass on those great genes to the next generation. Hunters fuck that up.
    SO who's fucking up when in Egypt, their are many many old crocs on the nile. They lost the ability to reproduce 30 years ago, and are still keeping their harem and 'land'. When you look at what they consume per day, it costs tens of millions in lost 'resources' per year per croc.

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    DO NOT use a bow. You're not going to kill anything with one arrow unless you're Robin Hood. Seriously, you're just hurting the animal and making in limp and struggle, desperately in pain untill you can get a better shot. That's horrible.
    More nonsense. You can kill anything with one arrow, you don't have to be Robin Hood. Just practice practice practice. The biggest mistake bowhunters make is taking a shot at their 'limit'. i.e. they know they can hit a target at 60 yards, so they try to get an animal at 55-65 yards. If you use a bow, you need to get closer, much closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glambman View Post
    That's a stupid comparo. Kinda like me sayin' vegetarians are not quite as extreme as PETA, but they are like Jack the RIpper while PETA is like Hitler.
    Not killing things can't be compared to killing them.



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    No they don't.
    My uncle is a taxadermist.



    Quote Originally Posted by glambman View Post
    SO who's fucking up when in Egypt, their are many many old crocs on the nile. They lost the ability to reproduce 30 years ago, and are still keeping their harem and 'land'. When you look at what they consume per day, it costs tens of millions in lost 'resources' per year per croc.
    Crocs are apex predators.


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    More nonsense. You can kill anything with one arrow, you don't have to be Robin Hood. Just practice practice practice. The biggest mistake bowhunters make is taking a shot at their 'limit'. i.e. they know they can hit a target at 60 yards, so they try to get an animal at 55-65 yards. If you use a bow, you need to get closer, much closer.
    You're certainly not Robin Hood.

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    ^^^
    LOL touche Perry.
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    I would've sworn animals didn't kill the weak and sick for food because it wasn't healthy. They normally went for the young and slow, though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post
    I would've sworn animals didn't kill the weak and sick for food because it wasn't healthy. They normally went for the young and slow, though.
    Big cats will watch prey and they will pick up on something like a slight limp and focus on that animal coz it is easier to catch. Im not sure if they eat the very sick animals but hyenas sure would being scavengers they have very strong stomachs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    Not killing things can't be compared to killing them.

    Just like a ';factory' farm can't be compared to 'hunting'.


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    My uncle is a taxadermist.

    I've known taxidermists since I was 12ish. Just having an animal stuffed does not mean they 'trophy' hunted. I also have a dozen friends who go hunt in Africa for 1-2 months at a time. The Big 5 and all below. They do keep 'momentos', but they do not hunt for 'trophy's'.


    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    Crocs are apex predators.

    lol you missed my point. The old croc is only consuming resources, it is sterile. It means it is not reproducing. And it doesn't get much more than fish.

    Also, crocs and gators don't hunt for the sick or elderly as you said. They go for whoever is near da whata.

    And apex predators will go for the weakest link, like the babies. But it all depends, on my safari (nonhunting), I saw healthy adults get taken down by what you describe as apex predators.


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    You're certainly not Robin Hood.

    lol, so you must not be Maid Marian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glambman View Post
    I also have a dozen friends who go hunt in Africa for 1-2 months at a time. The Big 5 and all below. They do keep 'momentos', but they do not hunt for 'trophy's'.
    Are your friends poachers? Aren't the big 5 protected species? They aren't eating them?
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    Permits to hunt the Big 5 are expensive, but available. It is true that there are a lot of hunters who are looking for a "trophy kill", but the vast majority of these hunters are experienced and have killed many does and bucks in their careers. The trophy hunter actually kills less animals because they will pass over the many average animals to get their trophy. I only know one hunter who doesn't eat his kills and that is because he hunts in Africa for Lions, leopards, and hyenna, but he pays for a buttload for the chance.

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    This thread is going to become really nasty really fast.

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    Yeah, I regret posting it. For the record, I couldn't be MORE against trophy hunting, especially of endangered animals. The Ontario partridge isn't endangered. It's a pretty responsible animal to hunt:

    (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruffed_grouse)

    "In Canada, the species is generally widespread, and it not considered globally threatened by the IUCN. Many states in the U.S. have open hunting seasons that run from September through January, but hunting is not considered to be a significant contributing factor in the population decline.

    Ruffed Grouse are prolific and populations can be easily boosted by restocking. In some cases, even locally extirpated populations have been restored. Population cycles must be taken into account, so that restocked populations will have built up sufficient numbers before the downward cycle begins. Also, though in theory this species could sustain heavy hunting pressure due to its ability to produce many offspring, ample woodland must be present to allow sustained hunting without the risk of population collapse. It may well be that hunting is most efficient when population cycles are taken into account, granting the birds two years closed to hunting to recover from the lowest stock, and allowing far more than the usual numbers to be taken during bumper years."

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    i dont mean to be nasty, but i just cant understand.

    im not trying to judge you, but really, its just something i will never understand.

    but i am also a vegetarian, and i find animals to have the same worth as people.




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    Hunting pat takes good shot. They like to hide until you almost step on them then they bust out of cover with a lot of noise and flapping wings. Those suckers give me a start. They are tasty though.

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