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    It takes some hustling to sell a dance at the club I work at. Customers don't usually ASK for them. What approach would you take for the customer replies to a dance offer with "well, I just got here". Once I walk away another dancer can approach and get him into the VIP room within two minutes, so I know there is a way to get them back there. What do you think they do that I don't?

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    I don't think it's a tough crowd..it's like this everywhere. Majority of my customers do not approach me for a dance. They secretly hope and pray I come ask them hahaha.

    For the guys who tell you, "I just got here" how long are you sitting with him? When you approach him, do you "wanna dance" him, ask "would you like some company" what do you say?

    If the other girl can close him in 2min, maybe she was exactly what he was looking for. If that's not the case, maybe she sold him, and/or peaked his interest in a way that you didn't.

    So what do you think you're doing wrong..







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    What's your approach that isn't working?

    eta: CK you posted while i did, lol, same Q though. What's the approach you use, why do YOU think it's failing?

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    When people just got here I sometimes say "Well how would you like to start off your night with me?" if I am feeling super-confident. If I am not so much in the mood I'll just say "I'll be sure to check in with you later" and maybe remind them of my name or something.

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    ^ you always seem to phrase things in question form, NM! I keep noticing this pattern about you. You're allowing a "no" to come for an answer. remember all those great sales books you said you read: Assume the sale and ABC, dont allow such an easy no!

    (not attacking you dear, just notice this pattern about you/your posts)

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    I know what you mean. Keep in mind that I am always nodding my head "yes" and getting up so I am still assuming the sale but moreso with body language than with my words.

    The only time I purposely phrase it like a question is when I want the guy to feel challenged. I find this works nicely on the younger crowd. My "Would you object to a naked woman rubbing her body all over you?" is an example.

    I have experimented a bit with closing lines that are more statements than questions and I just found it didn't flow as well for me. This is probably because I haven't practiced them enough.

    I think I'm going to write a list of closing statements now.

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    One thing you have to remember is that the "I just got here" line can be a polite brush-off, especially if you see him going to VIP with another dancer a few minutes later. So in that situation, there's nothing you can really do about it since you're not his type.

    And as far as guys asking for dances, don't stand around and wait for them to ask. One of the things guys love about strip clubs is that they don't have to do the chasing-beautiful women approach them. It's part of the fantasy. Many guys can also be shy or intimidated as well. So always work the room and hustle, hustle, hustle!

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    Another thing about the statement vs. question thing is this: most questions end with our voice going "up" at the end. Anyone know what I mean? I stopped doing this "up" when I ask a closing question.

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    I've always loved your tips Chrissy! I'm always complimented on my smile, so I am almost always smiling. I approach the customer enthusiastically and ask if he minds if I join him. I introduce myself and welcome him to the club. When he tells me his name I repeat it back and say nice to meet you. I have a two song limit. I get to know the customer the first song. I work in a military town so I ask if they've ever been to the club before, if they have been overseas lately, when the last time they went to a gentlemans club was, where they're from. The second song I work on closing the deal. I use a variety of lines such as, "You've been overseas so long, you deserve some private attention from a beautiful woman. Come with me to the VIP room so we can have some privacy." I really don't know what I'm doing wrong.

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    Hey ladies, this is my first post..

    I'm strippin in Paris right now and getting the Frenchies to part with their money is fucking hard!

    A list of closing statements is what I really really need.. Any help? x

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    ^ Familiarize yourself with Hustle Hut. There are TOOOOONNNNNS of threads on that topic. Plus, yanno, you just threadjacked dancerchick's thread. FYI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancerchick View Post
    I've always loved your tips Chrissy! I'm always complimented on my smile, so I am almost always smiling. I approach the customer enthusiastically and ask if he minds if I join him. I introduce myself and welcome him to the club. When he tells me his name I repeat it back and say nice to meet you. I have a two song limit. I get to know the customer the first song. I work in a military town so I ask if they've ever been to the club before, if they have been overseas lately, when the last time they went to a gentlemans club was, where they're from. The second song I work on closing the deal. I use a variety of lines such as, "You've been overseas so long, you deserve some private attention from a beautiful woman. Come with me to the VIP room so we can have some privacy." I really don't know what I'm doing wrong.
    Thanks DC. OK:
    Asking if he minds... that gives him the opportunity to say "no, i just got here." Just sit!

    Two song limit is good, maybe make it three if it's not busy though.

    Your close is too strong. Way too strong. The first line alone was a good close, but then you went over the top with pushiness. That's (IMHO) what I think is your problem. So, nix the part I bolded. That's a great close, especially if you nod slightly while saying "You deserve the attention of a (NAKED) beautiful woman," and stand. When you stand, you either grab his hand and sort of pull, or put both of his hands on your hips and sort of lean back. That trick doesn't work for everyone, but the close with the nod and the stand works well.

    IMHO, that's your problem. Too aggressive. Instead, try to relax a bit with it, you've just developed rapport with them and become sort of friendly, but then you go all aggressive car salesman on them and try to oversell. You want to be smooth, instead of pushy. Hope that helps!
    Last edited by Chrissy68; 07-29-2008 at 10:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancerchick View Post
    What do you think they do that I don't?
    Well, for one thing, you've kind of warmed them up for the girl that follows you. They probably are using some persuasion on the guy and simply not taking no for an answer. Don't let them come and close the sale that you've set up!

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    One thing I didn't get at first about being bold was that I acted kind of demanding. Now, my bold closes I say non-chalantly as if I'm just casually assuming a dance is the next step and a natural progression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kattitude View Post
    A list of closing statements is what I really really need.. Any help? x
    I wonder if there's a cultural difference in buying triggers that might be at work there. anyhow, fascinating! You should post about dancing in France, that's too cool.

    I think your question is relevant to this thread since we're looking for ways to close. Chrissy's stickied thread at the top of Hustle Hut has a lot of those in there and I will look for more, though that's a great idea for one of those stickied threads. The most basic one is of course, "(You look like/you must be) ready for me to dance/get naked/have fun/wiggle around on you now." I personally am a fan of "Let me take you back to my office and show you what I do around here."

    Perhaps for the French, "You know you want to surrender." j/k!

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