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    There's a bartender I work with at one of my clubs who is very pretty. She's an ex dancer and she does her best to keep guys at the bar, so she's not super popular with all the other girls. She will sit behind the bar wiping off the bottles suggestively while talking to the customers. There are several customers that come in just to see her, and while they are at the bar they don't pay attention to anyone else.

    So anyway, apparently the other night it was totally slow and no one was making money. One of the bartender's customers offered her $300 to go up on stage for a set. She asked the other girls if that was OK, they said yes, and then she arranged it with the DJ and went up. Here's the thing, though. Her stage was showered with money. She was the only bartender working, so she must have exchanged $300-400 in ones for her customer.

    After her set, another dancer got really, really pissed about it. Now, I don't know if I would be super pissed because I'm generally laid back to a fault. However, I do think she could have been more discreet about the money. She did exchange all those ones and she knew that they would make it rain and cause a spectacle. She was also pretty smug and giddy about it at the time. I wouldn't want to begrudge anyone their good luck of having a customer offer this huge amount for a three-song set, but maybe if you're a bartender you should just do your job and leave the stripping to the strippers.

    Would you be pissed if a bartender did this? I'm wondering if that was a bitchy move or not. I personally don't know if I would be that mad, especially if it was just a rare occurrence. I asked my stripper friend about it though, and she thinks it was disrespectful to the dancers on shift.

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    If she asked permission, then no, I would not be pissed.

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    Hmmm... i don't know your club setup but we had a problem with this for a little while. For awhile, the bartenders at our club could do stage dances and drink hustle and everything else but they were not required to pay tipout or house fees at the end of the night and they also still got their hourly pay. It was kind of like, they could choose to do dances or stage sets on their own time whereas us house girls HAD to do them AND pay tipout.

    Yeah, it kinda sucked. I guess if a bartender wants to be a dancer, she should still be a dancer then and work under those rules. But I suppose if it's only happening sporadically, then no biggie.

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    no, the guy wanted to spend money on her, so she let him. he probobly wouldnt have done it for any of the other girls since he was so into her.

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    Yeah that's the thing, she's getting paid an hourly wage to bartend and often makes more than the dancers in tips when it's super slow and shitty, and that's on top of her income. Guys might come in and not tip the dancers, but they'll usually tip for their drinks and/or food. At the same time, he was infatuated with her and probably just came in to see her. That money was not going to go to the other girls.

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    If you feel that way then maybe you guys should have said "no" when she asked if she could do stage.

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    Exactly ^ ^And she asked first! I've seen many a waitress or bartender forgo doing that!

    And let her be giddy and happy, wouldn't you be if the roles were switched? (not the OP, but in general).

    If it became a habit...it might rub me the wrong way eventually. If she started pitching it to the customers I'd surely get bent.




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    NewMoon, re-read my post, I wasn't there, I was just trying to figure out exactly how I feel about this because it happened at my club. I mean, should we let the bartenders do this? What if, hypothetically, you were the only girl that said no and she lost out on $400? If she went up for $50, that wouldn't seem fair, would it?

    Another friend said she should have given a cut to the dancers on shift. Not sure if I think that's fair to her, either. I mean, she had the opportunity to make a lot of money, and it was her hustle and her flat fee offer. Should she have to "pay off" the other dancers?

    Personally, I think if I was working behind the bar I wouldn't get up on stage ever.

    Yeah, it's cool that she was giddy and happy, but I think it just rubbed the girls the wrong way because they were making shit.

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    I wouldn't be pissed unless she was letting her bartender duties suffer. I've worked in clubs where ex-dancers waitressed/bartended and if it was slow they'd do it. If they were so busy dancing then they weren't pouring champagne and getting custies drinks then yes. Otherwise no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherry Valence View Post
    She asked the other girls if that was OK, they said yes, and then she arranged it with the DJ and went up.
    That is what we are talking about.

    It's hardly fair for someone to get permission from the dancers to go onstage and then get heat from them.

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    at our club if a bartender or waitress wants to dance for a customer they are allowed to on a non regular basis but they have to clock out to do so and have someone cover for them.

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    I agree with you NewMoon. And trust me, she makes more than the dancers when it's slow. Like I said, I wouldn't be too pissed, but I'm pretty laid back and I let people walk all over me sometimes. Just getting some opinions.

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    Well, she asked permission, they said yes. It's not like the guy was going to spend his $ on anyone else. He was there to see her.

    If I were a dancer there I would have called in one of my regs to shower money on me/buy dances.

    I just hope she at least tipped out the DJ/doormen at the end of the shift.

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    Well, the bartenders asked at our club to and while we all WANTED to say no we all said yes.. Because no one wants to be on the bartenders bad side and no one wants to be the stand alone voice. I think the one time we brought it up about having a problem with it, then the bartender complained to management or some shit.

    Anyway, at my place, they changed it so they have to pay a tip out and such at the end of the night if they do dances and whatnot so... It worked out.

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    I don't think you girls should be pissed by this. Bartenders at my club have customers as well. So do the waitresses. They aren't hustling for dances or anything, but they do get tipped.

    Now, my question is this: Would the girls had been SO mad had she not been tipped so well?

    I think they are being haters...that's just my opinion though.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherry Valence View Post
    Yeah that's the thing, she's getting paid an hourly wage to bartend and often makes more than the dancers in tips when it's super slow and shitty, and that's on top of her income.
    I guess I stand alone...but I am not ok with club staff doing dances, going on stage, etc. They get a wage. They get tips. They don't have to pay to come to work. I don't see why they should be able to make some stripping money whenever they feel like it without having to pay house fees. They get to be a novelty and steal the show from those of us who depend on dancing money and are PAYING to come to work.

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    I think you're on to something there CK, I think it was the green eyed monster making the girls act catty after the fact.

    Sure it's okay for her to go one stage, but not so okay when she walks off with a bunch of money!




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    I don't think you stand alone, Elvia. Like another poster mentioned, who would want to say no, you can't go on stage and make $300 because we have to pay to work. Of course you would seem like the hater and of course you don't want to be on the bad side of the bar.

    I should have made a poll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    I guess I stand alone...but I am not ok with club staff doing dances, going on stage, etc. They get a wage. They get tips. They don't have to pay to come to work. I don't see why they should be able to make some stripping money whenever they feel like it without having to pay house fees. They get to be a novelty and steal the show from those of us who depend on dancing money and are PAYING to come to work.
    I'm kind of with Elvia. Its one thing if your on the schedule as a bartender and also on the schedule as a dancer, but for her to have gone up, taking time that a dancer should have been making money, is a bit rude. But then, they DID say yes, so can't really complain after the fact. I can see that that would be an awkward thing to say no to, though, particularly if management respects bartenders more than dancers.

    But IMO(and if i was in her situation) she should have at LEAST tipped out, and slipped a little to hte dancers who AGREED she could go onstage. Someone does you a favor, they don't do it for free.
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    she a very smart and great bartender. thats just competition for you- at its best.

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    I would be mad that she didnt have to pay a housefee and tipouts AND was still paid hourly - even if it was just a one time thing. If she wants to play stripper then she should have to pay to play. I think it would be unfair to the other dancers that she is allowed to use the club to hustle customers like a dancer while being paid hourly and tipped as a bartender and then is allowed to perform and entertain like a dancer, but is still paid hourly and considered a bartender. Whew - that was a long sentence! Just wanted to make that clear

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    My club wouldn't allow it. You're either a dancer or a bartender/waitress - choose one, can't do both.
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    ^ My club has a policy that your either a stripper or a bartender. you cant be both. I personally think its a good idea. I dont think the the bartenders would like it if strippers were taking there shifts and weekly hours behind the bar whenever they felt like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    I guess I stand alone...but I am not ok with club staff doing dances, going on stage, etc. They get a wage. They get tips. They don't have to pay to come to work. I don't see why they should be able to make some stripping money whenever they feel like it without having to pay house fees. They get to be a novelty and steal the show from those of us who depend on dancing money and are PAYING to come to work.
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    I don't think she did anything wrong. She asked permission and was permitted to do it. What else should she have done? If anyone is to blame, it is the people who said it was okay (I don't know about the laws in your area, but it's illegal to dance here without an adult entertainers license and a small business license). Strip club bartenders often bank when/ if they hit the stage just because guys are finally seeing the unattainable.
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