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    Default How many minutes does it take you to hustle for a dance? For VIP? CR?

    When your hustling, how many minutes do you spend with a custy before selling a dance/VIP/CR or moving onto the next customer? And what are your dance and VIP/CR prices?

    I'm using "hustling" to mean time it takes you to ask for a dance/VIP/CR. Not the extra time you continue to hustle a customer after they buy a dance (unless you hustle for VIP/CR after).

    I'm curious if there is a correlation between dance prices and the amount of time a dancer spends hustling.

    I spend 30sec to 1 min to hustle for a dance ($5-$10). If its busy "Hi, I'd love to dance for you." so maybe 5 seconds haha. If its slow I'll spend 3minutes or 1 song. I continue to hustle for VIP ($10-$20) after the second dance so I spend maybe 1-2minutes. My club is a "wanna dance" one and I feel with cheap dance prices and even cheaper customers that a long-winded hustle is a waste of my time.

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    Default Re: How many minutes does it take you to hustle for a dance? For VIP? CR?

    We only have $20 dances. If it's DEAD, 2 songs or about 6-8 minutes. If it's PACKED 30 seconds or less.

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    Default Re: How many minutes does it take you to hustle for a dance? For VIP? CR?

    I started as a minor in Oregon so I learned to hustle from the stage and that's still my favorite way to hustle. One club I work at does taxi dancing so I do my little dance for each customer and then if it's busy I just ask for a dance at the end of my set.

    Sometimes if I feel like making the effort I talk to them for a couple songs before going in for the kill but usually not.

    For me it goes stage -> regular dance -> upsell to something better. There isn't really VIP or CRs here in Oregon but at one club I work at the custy can choose between $20, $40 or $50 dances. At the other if a guy buys a couple dances I mention that he could get a half hour for only $140 rather than pay $30 a song.

    So really, I don't take any time hustling. I do chat with customers but stage is when I really focus, unless everybody's sitting at the bar instead of the stage.
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    Hey iambonbon, what is the diff. between those dances? The 20, 40 and 50 dollar ones? I want to do something like that at my club.

    And on topic, I don't really know, but I think I usually spend 2 or 3 songs (I work slower shifts) sometimes even longer. But I try to make those bigger multiple dance sales.
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    Different girls pitch them different ways, but for me $20 is an air dance, $40 is a higher contact dance (a little grinding), and $50 is the same as the $40 but in a separate room from the other dances. We are supposed to keep clothes on grinding though so I wait to take my bottoms off until the second half of the song.

    I think Portland still doesn't allow grinding though? It is allowed in Salem. We don't have couch dances here, thank goodness I'd never get the hang of that lol.
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    It depends on the guy, someitmes i ask right away. Sometimes i take longer if i think it will be more beneficial.. i go by my instincts.
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    Default Re: How many minutes does it take you to hustle for a dance? For VIP? CR?

    it depends on how packed the club is... I don't even try to sell table dances(air dances $10) and usually mention a lap dance(or friction dances as they are referred to as down here.. ugh) $25 after about a min. of talking... because thats how I make most of my money... and thats how I make it the quickest... I don't try to sell champagne rooms because usually guys think that means he will get more than just naked dancing.

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    Two sentences to two songs for the first dance; VIP/CR during the first dance, or before, if they are asking about the club and I give them the spiel. I also work at stage-heavy clubs so everyone who tipped well or looked interested gets asked from the stage, so I guess that's a one sentence hustle.

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    Default Re: How many minutes does it take you to hustle for a dance? For VIP? CR?

    the time to hustle varies. but when i get a room, it's an easy sale. time has never factored in. if anything, it's easier. bear in mind, i don't do a lot of rooms.

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    30 seconds to a minute for dance, 20 extra seconds for vip (once they agreed to a dance, I start hustling them into a Vip)
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    Quote Originally Posted by snow white View Post
    My club is a "wanna dance" one and I feel with cheap dance prices and even cheaper customers that a long-winded hustle is a waste of my time.
    I think this hits the nail on the head. I've worked at clubs where it's super busy and the average customer will only get one song so you would have to be crazy to take longer than a minute to hustle. I've also worked at a club where it was slow and customers will spend anywhere from $20 to $200 so it's worth spending 2 to 3 songs. At my current club, the average customer is willing to drop at least $100 and nearly every dancer does a longer hustle. When it's busy, about 15 min and when it's slow about 30 min.

    I think it all depends on the club environment and how much the average customer is willing to spend. If you are going for quantity, then invest as little as possible per customer. If you are going for quality, then it's worth investing more time to ensure a greater return.

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    Dances: takes one to two songs to sell. When it's packed, less than a song.

    half-hour private rooms: Takes anywhere from 5-40 minutes to sell. It usually doesn't take longer than 20 minutes though. After the 20 minute mark, they've already gotten too much of my time and attention for not enough money and i get antsy, or they weren't really going to buy anyway. Most success happens before 20 minutes!
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    It really depends on the customer. I've approached some guys and immediately get a dance (like before I even sit down) and others it takes a couple songs. If I'm on song 3 and we havent danced yet, I move on.

    As for VIP's..I usually build up to those after we've done a few lapdances. So after a couple lapdances, I'll bring up VIP.







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    Honest to God, custies usually end up asking for a dance sometime during the first song. Don't know if it's the club I'm at or me. Whatever - I'm not complaining.

    If they don't ask right off the bat - I will say, "wanna go get naughty?" after the 1st or 2nd song and some small talk.

    If it's *extremely* slow, and nothing else going on, I'll stay a few songs and waste time until I see new customers walking in.

    We don't have CR's. We do have VIP, but it's a membership-type deal. They pay a grand or two, and they are VIP "members" for a year. They get their own 1/2 of the club, private bar, private stage, etc. Dances cost the same in the VIP section of the club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paintgoddess View Post
    Dances: takes one to two songs to sell. When it's packed, less than a song.

    half-hour private rooms: Takes anywhere from 5-40 minutes to sell. It usually doesn't take longer than 20 minutes though. After the 20 minute mark, they've already gotten too much of my time and attention for not enough money and i get antsy, or they weren't really going to buy anyway. Most success happens before 20 minutes!
    Pretty much the same, but I tend to try and keep a dance hustle to under a song no matter how crowded it is, because for some reason most guys at my club get dances OR VIP. It's hard to sell up, but easy to see what they're looking for.

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