Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 46

Thread: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

  1. #1
    God/dess Sophia_Starina's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Nudie-Land
    Posts
    7,219
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 4,151 Times in 1,462 Posts
    My Mood
    Sneaky

    Default Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    One of my friends told me that Penthouse Executive Club in NYC is slated to close this September. Is that true?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
    ^What Sophia said.
    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    I wish there was an "auto-like" setting that I could just have applied to all of your posts Sophia....

  2. #2
    Featured Member kikiwiki's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2005
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    1,414
    Thanks
    774
    Thanked 699 Times in 264 Posts
    My Mood
    Angelic

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    haven't heard this news since I landed but I heard from two different djs that scores east is closing and new owners are taking it over under a different name.
    "Where there is love there is life"-Mahatma Gandhi

    "Be The Best, F!ck The Rest"- P.P.


  3. #3
    God/dess Sophia_Starina's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Nudie-Land
    Posts
    7,219
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 4,151 Times in 1,462 Posts
    My Mood
    Sneaky

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    Hmmmm..... the plot thickens.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
    ^What Sophia said.
    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    I wish there was an "auto-like" setting that I could just have applied to all of your posts Sophia....

  4. #4
    Featured Member laurcon's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    1,291
    Thanks
    718
    Thanked 402 Times in 203 Posts

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    that is the underground buzz that i've been hearing for a little while now. i really don't want all those girls coming to my fun club and ruining it. i know a few regulars there and apparently asking a guy if he wants a blow job is common practice. at least for these guys cause the spend A LOT. but still, not my type of thing. obvi they'll be a few good ones, hope those are the only we get

  5. #5
    Member Daria's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    46
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    Quote Originally Posted by kikiwiki View Post
    haven't heard this news since I landed but I heard from two different djs that scores east is closing and new owners are taking it over under a different name.
    This is also what I have heard from a very good source.

  6. #6
    God/dess Sophia_Starina's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Nudie-Land
    Posts
    7,219
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 4,151 Times in 1,462 Posts
    My Mood
    Sneaky

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    Is the new scores going to be a strip club or a regular club?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
    ^What Sophia said.
    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    I wish there was an "auto-like" setting that I could just have applied to all of your posts Sophia....

  7. #7
    Featured Member kikiwiki's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2005
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    1,414
    Thanks
    774
    Thanked 699 Times in 264 Posts
    My Mood
    Angelic

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    the djs that told me didn't want to say too much maybe b/c they aren't completely sure about the info but it sure sounded likely it will be a strip club.
    "Where there is love there is life"-Mahatma Gandhi

    "Be The Best, F!ck The Rest"- P.P.


  8. #8
    Veteran Member Julie, Julie's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2008
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    212
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    I havn't heard anything about Penthouse closing but...

    I DID hear the rumor that Scores West would be bought out by Ricks... ha, ha, anyone hear that one???
    j

  9. #9
    Featured Member kikiwiki's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2005
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    1,414
    Thanks
    774
    Thanked 699 Times in 264 Posts
    My Mood
    Angelic

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    ^^^ Another Rick's in NYC??? The current one isn't even that great.
    "Where there is love there is life"-Mahatma Gandhi

    "Be The Best, F!ck The Rest"- P.P.


  10. #10
    Banned Melonie's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2002
    Location
    way south of the border
    Posts
    25,932
    Thanks
    612
    Thanked 10,563 Times in 4,646 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Cynical

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    well, it's certainly no secret that as a corporation Penthouse has been taking some serious 'lumps' lately. Their stock is now trading at $.0015-$.0018 (yes that's right 1/8th of a cent) per share.

    Penthouse Corp actually has several lines of business ... the magazine ... the pay website ... an adult cable channel ... an adult credit card processing service ... and of course the New York club. Penthouse, in conjunction with another investor group, also recently made a large investment in the attempted opening of another Penthouse club in Detroit MI (talk about the wrong place at the wrong time). Thus it's possible ... and this is pure speculation but nontheless possible ... that Penthouse went into debt and subsequently lost a lot of money on the Detroit deal.

    If Penthouse were indeed strapped for cash, all of their business segments except one are 'content' related cash flow businesses that are really only worth as much as next month's 'sales' volume. The one exception of course is the New York club ... which occupies a property / building that is worth many many millions of dollars. It's possible that Penthouse Corp is considering closing the club and selling the property in order to raise enough cash to keep the other (and probably more profitable) business segments from being bankrupted.

  11. #11
    Veteran Member
    Joined
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    236
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts
    Blog Entries
    36
    My Mood
    Amused

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    I think you are all way off base. First off Penthouse does not own any clubs, it does licensing for its brand name, thats it. So if a club fails then Penthouse loses nothing but a stream of royalties from tha location and nothing else. Usually its a percentage of the gross sales for use of the name, less then 6%.
    As for the Penthouse Exectuive Club closing in NYC, I doubt it! I think your rumor mill has gone off the tracks since Scores is up for sale and some said something and wires are nwo crossed, instead of Scores its Penthouse.
    The point is Mr.Ganz the guy that acutally owns Penthouse Executive Club in NYC is a very good bsinessmen so I think he is doing ok even in these troubled times.
    Now you want to talk about Penthouse clubs closing ok then Las Vegas Penthouse Club that just opened less then 9 months ago is going under fast.
    The Penthouse Club in Dallas Texas Folded due to prostitution charges and city shutting it down. Reopened under another name and has been sold to Ricks Cabaret as of last month.
    Penthouse Club in LA never opened.
    Penthouse Club in Houston got bust I think beginning of this year for prostitution.

  12. #12
    Banned Melonie's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2002
    Location
    way south of the border
    Posts
    25,932
    Thanks
    612
    Thanked 10,563 Times in 4,646 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Cynical

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    I would agree with you that Penthouse Corp does license the use of their Penthouse logo, just as Scores Corp does. However, this does not mean that the corporation doesn't have a financial stake in some of the clubs bearing their name - albeit a 'minority' position.

    Since the Manhattan Penthouse was the first venture into gentlemen's clubs, it's distinctly possible that Penthouse Corp. helped finance the setup of this club, and still holds a significant financial stake. This was certainly the case for Scores East in Manhattan as opposed to 'licensed' Scores clubs which opened later, and I'll bet you it's also the case for the Manhattan Penthouse Club ... which pre-dated the bankruptcy and licensing agreement with VCG Holdings (that owns something like 16 'licensed' Penthouse clubs in other states). With Penthouse now being a private equity operation, there isn't any public info available to prove or disprove the possibility.

    However, by the purest of pure coincidences, the CFO of VCG Holdings, Mr. Donald Prosser, left the company three weeks ago to become a consultant with a broadband provider IPtimize. Perhaps he knows something that we don't !!!!!

  13. #13
    Veteran Member
    Joined
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    236
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts
    Blog Entries
    36
    My Mood
    Amused

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    www.vcgh.com
    Go look it up, VCG owns 2 Penthouse club licenses thats it. Not hard to verify, one in Colorado one in Illinois. VCG at one time had the license for Penthouse in Arizona but sold that club. Later Penthouse took the license back from the Arizona club like they did for the Dallas club.
    Before Dan Stanton and Marc Bell came on the scene to buy Penthouse out of Bankruptcy Guicionne, founder of Penthouse was doing club licensing and failed at it miserably. His fist licensed club was Cleveland Ohio, not NYC. You can look it up online not hard to find, key words Cleveland Ohio Penthouse.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penthouse_%28magazine%29
    As for Penthouse going public this will happen in most likely before the end of the year.
    http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/419...0-million-ipo/
    Since Penthouse just bought Adult Friend Finder as a major investment asset for $500 Million they can go public and re-coop its investment and start building the company up.
    Bob Ganz cut his licensing deal with Gucionnie, not Dan and Marc. To date Penthouse does not own any clubs, nor has a stake in any clubs, meaning financial investments. If you would like to verify this please contact the licensing department of Penthouse and speak with them. You will be informed that Penthouse does not invest in clubs, only license clubs from brand name only.
    Everything is verifiable. If you have not figured it out by now I have delt with Penthouse extensively when it comes to clubs and licensing.

  14. #14
    Veteran Member
    Joined
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    236
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts
    Blog Entries
    36
    My Mood
    Amused

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    First club to open under Penthouse brand name, which was the Spencers Circus Circus Club on the lake in Cleveland. Angelina Spencer is now the Director of ACE. Later the Spencer family had a falling out with Penthouse during the bankruptcy and ended its branding contract.

    http://www.enquirer.com/editions/200...nthouse06.html

  15. #15
    Veteran Member
    Joined
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    236
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts
    Blog Entries
    36
    My Mood
    Amused

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    Ok after re-reading this whole thread I decided to check a few things on the net and here is a possible answer as to why you are hearing rumors that Penthouse Club is Closing! The rumor might have a half truth to it. I know from past dealings with club owners that Executive Club name is owned by the same person that owns Penthouse Executive Club in New York City.


    So I decided to go look up the trademark info: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...te=eldi9g.3.10

    http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?r...entry=76523639

    Please note the address:
    603 West 45th Street New York NEW YORK 10036

    Yes address is the same as the current location of the Penthouse Executive Club. What you will most likely see is the name change of "Penthouse Executive Club" to JUST "The Executive Club".

    Just a thought that would make since if you follow the info which is public record. Same goes for the coporation info that the club operates under its public record.

  16. #16
    Featured Member laurcon's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    1,291
    Thanks
    718
    Thanked 402 Times in 203 Posts

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    dude, mysteryman is sweating penthouse hardcore. its not that serious. but thanks for the essays with citations anyway!

  17. #17
    Veteran Member
    Joined
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    236
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts
    Blog Entries
    36
    My Mood
    Amused

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    Thanks! Not sweating it, just pointing out the facts.

  18. #18
    Veteran Member Ebony's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2002
    Location
    NYC/NJ
    Posts
    650
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 20 Times in 16 Posts

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    Oh my I heard the same rumor for awhile now from some very important investors at other TOP clubs. Don't want to let to much out but yeah people are talking. I feel bad for you Hustler girls the ho train is about to pull into the station. Hopefully Chirs is selective.

  19. #19
    Veteran Member nychaos99's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Manhattan
    Posts
    452
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 26 Times in 18 Posts

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    Well, it's a good thing I decided to check out this thread- which is completely WRONG.

    No, we are not closing. DUH! I heard the rumor too, by the way- not sure how it got started- but basically people thought that Bob Gans (with an 's') was going to sell the entire block, which is not true. He owns almost the entire block (of 45th street) except for a teeny tiny garage right next to the club. He doesn't want to buy that piece (for one reason or another).

    So, everyone can stop talking about it.

    Laurcon, don't worry- the Manhattan girls don't want to work at your New Jersey "fun" club. They are much happier in the City where they pull in $1,000-$5,000 a night. And as the saying goes...nothing is free!
    PS- I have NEVER heard of girls offering blow jobs, it is the other way around. Guys ask for it. Either way, it is GROSS and DISCUSTING.

    Melonie, we are a licensed company, we are not connected to Penthouse (the magazine and empire) except for a few contractual agreements, to which Penthouse Corporation must obligate: a few advertisement/magazine agreements, hosting the PPOTY Party here, and a few other things (I forget). We pay a royalty fee to license the name. Penthouse has NO financial stake in this particular club. No one over there owns 1 brick of this building. (Although at this point I'm sure they'd like to!)

    We are in NO WAY connected to any other Penthouse Club or Key Club. So whatever is happening with them, doesn't affect us at all.

    Mysteryman, you are absolutely correct in all of your research and statements (though I'm sure you know this and don't need me to pat you on the back...)

    NOW, the real JUICE : Scores West is CLOSED (and everyone should know this, unless you live under a rock). They lost their liquor license, and has been shut down for 6 months. They are NOT re-opening with the original owners. Rick's is NOT buying any of the Score's nightclubs. There is another club in negotiations with the purchase of Score's West and renaming it as "Score's" (there will be NO Score's East or West, just "Scores", at the West Side location). This same club is purchasing the name of "Score's" from the original Score's club owners. Score's EAST has lost their lease, sort of. Their lease came up to be renewed, and the landlord jacked up the rent astonomically. The owner's of Score's are not going to pay that much, and the landlord is planning on opening up (and running) a Sapphire's Club.

    So, Sophia_Starina, to answer your question: as of NOW, both will remain adult nightclubs.

    Ebony, don't feel bad for the Hustler Ho Train Station, the girls at Penthouse prefer white collar customers. They ride in the First Class Ho Car.

    I will post more as I hear the news.....
    Esquire Club New York
    West Side
    New York, NY

  20. #20
    Featured Member kikiwiki's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2005
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    1,414
    Thanks
    774
    Thanked 699 Times in 264 Posts
    My Mood
    Angelic

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    nychaos! Thanks for the info but I feel like it sounds like you're trying to make pec sound like a clean club. There is no such thing as a "clean" club in NYC. We should accept that shit happens everywhere. Pec isn't any better. White collar hos, blue collar hos, whatever,let's not sugar coat one, a ho is a ho.
    More rumors: scores east manager(s) buying ricks NYC and building steak house on top floor; anyone who worked at scores east Pre 2004 got letters in mail to sign up for lawsuit against scores owners because they claimed they paid us wages( I'm still waiting for mine)
    Can anyone confirm/shut these rumors?
    "Where there is love there is life"-Mahatma Gandhi

    "Be The Best, F!ck The Rest"- P.P.


  21. #21
    Featured Member laurcon's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    1,291
    Thanks
    718
    Thanked 402 Times in 203 Posts

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    nychaos - i don't work in a new jersey "party" club, i work at Hustler and we have plenty of former Penthouse girls. i date a guy who's brother was a ridiculous whale at penthouse, i know blow jobs were offered to them every time they came in, they just went right to the back and the girls were brought to them i think. or while they were eating? had something to do with a host named Steve, he seems to run the operation. might happen at hustler too, i'm not saying every one of our girls are angels, but for the most part i'm totally oblivious, doesn't effect me and i don't want it to is all. i guess you're oblivious to it at your club too nychaos, its prob better to stay that way.
    i'm very glad that penthouse is not closing, i'm big into freedom of choice.


    sorry i re-read your post, and the saying is not "nothing is free!"
    its an economic saying that is "there's no such thing as a free lunch"
    and i don't see how it relates to this anyway, haha.

  22. #22
    Veteran Member nychaos99's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Manhattan
    Posts
    452
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 26 Times in 18 Posts

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    Quote Originally Posted by kikiwiki View Post
    nychaos! Thanks for the info but I feel like it sounds like you're trying to make pec sound like a clean club. There is no such thing as a "clean" club in NYC. We should accept that shit happens everywhere. Pec isn't any better. White collar hos, blue collar hos, whatever,let's not sugar coat one, a ho is a ho.
    I am not making pec out to be a clean club- I never said that. Did you not read what I wrote? Here, I will put it in again for you...

    "....They are much happier in the City where they pull in $1,000-$5,000 a night. And as the saying goes...nothing is free!
    PS- I have NEVER heard of girls offering blow jobs, it is the other way around. Guys ask for it. Either way, it is GROSS and DISCUSTING."

    I didn't really comment either way about it, I was RESPONDING to others comments on this post. I wasn't trying to make a point or anything- being that this topic has been covered and written on this board OVER and OVER again.

    And in regards to me saying " They ride in the First Class Ho Car." --- I have every right to defend the club I work for, and it is well-known that each club typically has their own stereotypical entertainers, customers, music, etc. PEC obviously doesn't have the same customer base as Private Eyes. Not that there's anything wrong with that- there must be clubs with a little something for everyone.

    I was just being wry, again- responding to Ebony's comment about the ho train pulling into the station. (and the station she was refering to, was Hustler)-

    Back to the rumors, and what this thread was originally about....

    Kikiwiki- you say there are letters going out to pre-2004 Score's employees- I haven't heard anything about this, but I am curious to how everyone's addresses and confidential information was used in sending out the letters? To my knowledge, (I asked someone about this before, having to do with something completely different) Score's doesn't keep personal records for more than a year or two. That would suck if they kept the info, and then used it to send out letters. Like, who got the information, and how? I know that Harvey wouldn't be like, "Here! Take all the stripper's personal files and use it how you want! Send out letters and sue me!"

    Plus, knowing the track records of entertainers, wouldn't 99.9% of all entertainers that had been working at Score's, since moved? Doesn't everyone seem to move to different places? I have moved 3 times since 1994.

    This is interesting...
    Esquire Club New York
    West Side
    New York, NY

  23. #23
    Veteran Member nychaos99's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Manhattan
    Posts
    452
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 26 Times in 18 Posts

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    Ha! I just realized that I thought your f"un" club was in Jersey! Sorry about that!!! Yikers...that's embarassing. My glass eye must have wandered and noticed where you are from and then combined that with your post- sorry!

    The whale was offered blow jobs because that is what he wanted, and how he would spend his money. I promise you that he didn't trot in here one day and say, "Awww gee willakers....I sure would like a nice gal to talk to me!" No, he strutted his homely ass in here and said, "I'd pay you to suck my dick in the back room..."....Sad, sad, sad...and GROSS. That's what happens in the clubs--- customers threaten to leave if they don't get what they want, the owners/managers see the $$$ fade, and they change their "clean tune" to a slutastic behaviour. El Yucko.

    And I knew my post would get everyone heated. Why can't we all just stick with thread topic? Why must everyone point out what sluts and whores that are at ALL of the clubs?

    Why why why....

    Why can't Score's just go away?

    Why are there house fees?

    Why are there butt pimples? Are they necessary?
    Esquire Club New York
    West Side
    New York, NY

  24. #24
    Featured Member kikiwiki's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2005
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    1,414
    Thanks
    774
    Thanked 699 Times in 264 Posts
    My Mood
    Angelic

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    ^^^^ lmao at butt pimples!!! WhY are there???
    So my girlfriend that got the letter, got the letter sent to her moms house( where she lived while working at scores). I've since moved several times since scores so I doubt I would be getting any letter. I'm guessing documents were confiscated when scores got in trouble, and to prove where money went, scores released a "payroll" of all who worked there those years. She said it was discovered that people who were on their payroll are owed back wages, this is the lawsuit.
    "Where there is love there is life"-Mahatma Gandhi

    "Be The Best, F!ck The Rest"- P.P.


  25. #25
    God/dess Sophia_Starina's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Nudie-Land
    Posts
    7,219
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 4,151 Times in 1,462 Posts
    My Mood
    Sneaky

    Default Re: Rumor Control: Is Penthouse Closing?

    Quote Originally Posted by nychaos99 View Post
    Well, it's a good thing I decided to check out this thread- which is completely WRONG.

    No, we are not closing. DUH!
    Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. No need to bop me on the head with the superfluous "DUH!" like I'm some sort of whack-a-mole.

    You say you heard the rumor too... why get hyperdefensive? No one was attacking PEC. We were just curious.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
    ^What Sophia said.
    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    I wish there was an "auto-like" setting that I could just have applied to all of your posts Sophia....

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. so is it just a rumor that..
    By catseyes in forum Stripping (was Stripping General)
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 03-31-2010, 03:12 PM
  2. Rumor going around
    By Deogol in forum Dollar Den
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 10-04-2008, 01:27 PM
  3. Replies: 6
    Last Post: 07-21-2008, 07:28 PM
  4. New Rove Rumor (and rumor only so far)
    By threlayer in forum Political Poo
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 08-02-2005, 11:11 AM
  5. Rumor Control: Head Scarves
    By Deogol in forum The Lounge
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 12-24-2003, 09:11 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •