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    Last night I went to the 24hr grocery down the street at 4am because I am a night owl. Anyways when Im leaving and putting my groceries in my trunk a scraggly guy pops up from behind an old van about 50 yds away. He is about twice my size & age. He starts walking towards me slowly and doesnt say anything at all. Then when he gets about two parking spots away from me I stop what Im doing and get my canned good ready to throw if he comes any closer. (we were alone in the parking lot). Then he says "can u help me" and starts moving closer so I tell him to "back the fuck up and sorry but I really dont want to help a stranger at 4am in an empty parking lot." I stalled him for a minute so I could climb into my car then ask "what do u want???" and he says "I need some money to buy hair gel. coz i have a baby daughter coming and I want to look good when she is born" wth? Is that a druggie answer or what!!!! I mean damn he had a few minutes to think about his hustle line and this is what he came up with?? I said "sorry but I dont think my money can help u." So he is giving me the evil eye the whole time I drive away.

    I try to make a habit to give spare food or things I dont want that will be useful (I have about $300 worth of giftcards to my old fast food resaurant in $5 incraments) when I see an elderly asking for help but this made me soooo fucking mad. I seriously thought I was going to have to run out in the middle of nowhere. I didnt even have my cell on me.

    I do feel like I am blessed to be able to make good $$ and sharing with others is caring for others. I have even been homeless myself and depended on help from shelters/churches/donations so I have a soft spot for homeless. But these days all I see are homeless people up at 4am and shit. I guess this is just a rant but I am curious if anyone else has any better expeience to share....

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    Never give money to homeless people. Always give money to organizations that help the homeless.

    ^^^Those are the words I live by.

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    Default Re: Do u give $$ to homeless peeps?

    Living in the middle of a large scity has made me somewhat bitter and jaded towards "homeless" people.

    Sadly, many of them are merely scam artists. There was an expose in a Chicago paper some years ago about the thousands of dollars some of these people make in a month. As compassionate as I am, I want to help everyone, however, I can't exactly determine who is a scam artist and who truly needs help.

    These people are on every street corner, exit ramp off an expressway, etc. Lately I've been quite a bitch to some (most) of them. I've offered to pick them up some food and bring it back, and most of them are SHOCKED and OFFENDED that i'll offer that and not money.

    There's a guy in my neighborhood who frequents my gram's restaurant (she's known him for 30 years) and is very much NOT homeless, but he stands on the corner and begs for money. He's a raging alcoholic and uses this money for alcohol. 100% true story.

    And for the record, since I do like to help people, I choose to donate my time and/or money to The Greater Chicago Food Depository, among other places.






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    I'd rather give to a food bank than give them money.
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    thank u. Im living in a prety small college town right now and I dont think there is a homeless shelter here yet. I wonder if the hobos are just here to take advantage of the rich kids. it makes sense as this isnt a big city why would they be homeless HERE?

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    no, just homeless animals.

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    Default Re: Do u give $$ to homeless peeps?

    Reminds of the South Park episode where they are overrun by homeless

    Homeless Adviser: They feed on our change. They need it in order to keep them moving.
    Homeless Person: Is that... is that some spare change?
    Homeless Adviser: Somehow they're able to take... our change... and turn it into nourishment, sustenance.
    Homeless Person: Spare some of that change, sir?
    Homeless Adviser: But now watch. (Drops some coins into the hobo's cup and walks back to the boys. The hobo rattles his cup a bit.)
    Homeless Person
    : Spare some change?
    Homeless Adviser: It has already completely forgotten that I've given it change. It just wants... more, change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golden41 View Post
    thank u. Im living in a prety small college town right now and I dont think there is a homeless shelter here yet. I wonder if the hobos are just here to take advantage of the rich kids. it makes sense as this isnt a big city why would they be homeless HERE?
    Yeah, my brother goes to Harvard, and while I'm sure there are tons of homeless people, there are so many people strategically placed throughout the surrounding campus area....I jsut feel a god portion of them are scammers. I'm sorry, I just don't trust people. At one point, I was young and naive and would give them money. i gave one lady TONS of food and clothes one year ...I was totally her sugar momma, but at some point, I finally realized I was doing nothing for her. She needed to get her shit together. Her name was Sue and I would talke to her all the time, bring her clothes and food every other day. The more I learned about her and why she was homeless....well, it really was her own fault and she was doing nothing to change it.






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    fuck no. I've been homeless, traveled with the homeless and known a lot of homeless people and given lots of money to random spangers on the street. NEVER again. I've given away so much, fuck that..... I agree with newmoon- give money to organizations that help the homeless like the salvation army and resurrection house, but not to the actual people on the street- many of them are just lazy, a lot of them have drug/alchohol problems, and some of them, the ones who really do need the help are disabled war vets that the system passes by.

    There are spangers in boulder... they are driving me crazy already. Spare change?? lol. I laugh at them, they're my age, just dressed in ratty clothes and sitting on their asses while I work mine off. what ever..... they just go buy weed with it and keep doing the same thing day after day. I'm against "the man" to, but you've got to keep one foot rooted in society or else you'll float off into space.
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    I buy the local homeless newsletter sometimes, Street Roots. 75 cents out of the dollar it costs goes to the person selling it. I do that because they're working and I directly am giving both them & a cause $ and I find interesting articles in there sometimes. Otherwise, no.

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    oh yeah- forgot about that- i used to buy that too.

    i usually will tip street performers if i like their music/act, because they're actually doing something other than sitting and jingling a cup.

    there used to be a guy on the corner of clay and park who would just stand on the corner with his hand out and people would actually put money in his hand....wtf.
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    i do, becuase it makes me feel like i have helped someone. i dont care what they use it for as long as it gets them through the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMoon View Post
    Never give money to homeless people. Always give money to organizations that help the homeless.

    ^^^Those are the words I live by.
    Same here. But I DO give $ to street/subway performers who rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmeerah View Post
    Same here. But I DO give $ to street/subway performers who rock.
    Me too. I figure if they blow their money on cocaine, that is their right because they earned it.

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    I want to help, not enable. It's tough to know where to draw the line sometimes.

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    there was a thread like this awhile back and it got pretty nasty.

    my short answer is: yes. i do.

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    Nope. Most of those people are drug addicts/alcoholics who got themselves into it, or are mentally ill and need greater help than anything I could give them.

    4 homeless guys could get together and work at McDonald's and afford an apartment and NOT be homeless anymore, but they choose not to because they can't be drunk or fucked up all the time if they do that.

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    Sort of. I give money to this guy on the side of the road in Nevada all the time. His sign says "Why lie I need beer." He is being totally honest about his need for beer. I too, love booze. So him I donate to.

    Other homeless people, no. A lot of them try to intimidate me and make me afraid. FUCK THEM! And I'm sorry, that old story about your van broken down a mile away with your kids in it and you need gas...no longer works.

    I had one homeless guy last year go apeshit, and that was the end for me. This guy had this fliers from a church, and was asking for donations for church. I looked right at him and said, "allright, I will give you ten dollars. just admit its not for church." and he flipped out and I had to run to my car. After that, no thank you!

    Sorry, homeless or not, I get pissed when grown men approach me in a parking lot when I am buy myself.
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    ^^^"Choose" is a harsh word.

    My dad has been unable to work because of his alcoholism. I wouldn't say he "chooses" not to work but rather that he has been unable.

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    yes i do. I don't care for the reasoning on why i shouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasPrincess View Post
    Sort of. I give money to this guy on the side of the road in Nevada all the time. His sign says "Why lie I need beer." He is being totally honest about his need for beer. I too, love booze. So him I donate to.
    If my alcoholic father ever ends up on the streets, I hope no one will give him money to feed his addiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by head turner View Post
    yes i do. I don't care for the reasoning on why i shouldn't.
    I think we can all agree that when it comes to homeless people, we want what is best for them. I think there are plausible arguments FOR giving to homeless people just as there are plausible arguments not to give. But to not care....... wow. I most definitely care about the choices I make and how they affect others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlett.Oz View Post
    I give to those who do something for it, opening a door for me is sufficient.
    I also save food when I go out to give to the pets of homeless people (there's a lot here).
    I feel very strongly about the issues surrounding the homeless and can't agree with some of the stuff said in this thread but I truly don't feel like a disagreement so I'll keep it to myself for now.
    You seem like a very intelligent woman and if you ever care to share your views, I would be happy to discuss with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMoon View Post
    Never give money to homeless people. Always give money to organizations that help the homeless.
    Congrats, you've just helped about 1/100th of the homeless population. Help for the homeless is a) minimal and b) does VERY little for those who don't come looking for it.


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    it makes sense as this isnt a big city why would they be homeless HERE?
    Um... homelessness can happen to anyone anywhere. It's not an urban thing. People lose their livelyhoods, have psychological issues, post-war issues, etc. There is no geographical structure to becoming homeless.



    As for the op, yes, I give. I give as much as I can as often as I can. Cause I've been there and it's effin rough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaigeDWinter View Post
    Congrats, you've just helped about 1/100th of the homeless population. Help for the homeless is a) minimal and b) does VERY little for those who don't come looking for it.
    It depends. I think that $20 to a food bank is more valuable than $20 to some dude on the street.

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