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    Coud you give me an insight into what approach leaves you more likely to purchase dances/VIPS from a dancer you have not met before?

    A)Confident, up front "Wanna dance"
    B)Getting to know you conversation leading to a dance proposition
    C)Another approach (please describe)

    Also I understand the same approach will not work every time on different occasions so perhaps you could tell me if you favour one approach over another at different days of the week/time of the night.

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    ^^^^^Then what would A and C entice you to do ?
    And would you rather go to VIP with A B or C?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rooster470 View Post
    "Wanna dance" girls are the easiest to say no to. Unless the want a dance girl is someone i've had my eye on all night it's a guaranteed no from me. I would never go to VIP with a wanna dance girl because they haven't demonstrated any ability to converse.
    so true

    plan (B) is preferred, especially if a dancer is pretty cool/chill.... I would eventually get a lot of dances from her.

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    Default Re: In your face or slow burning?

    B or C. C being something in her actions toward me that shows me this is not gonna be a typical air dance or a phoned-in dance. A is just too common and shows NO imagination or effort on her part to engage me.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    I prefer to do the approaching myself by asking the dancer of my choice if she will dance for me. I usually do this at the stage while tipping her, and when (not if) she agrees, I tell her where I am sitting and retreat to my table.

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    you'll find most guys will say B (as you can see). i -always- chat for a few minutes before asking. the only time i use a quick line to sell a dance is if the guy irritates me/weirds me out and i want to get it over with. sometimes i'll ask right away if it's -really- busy and/or i have a regular in the club. i'll ask after my stage show to those who tipped me before going back to certain regulars (the ones who like/want me to do so).

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    B...easily B....but don't talk about kids or boyfriends or husbands or needing money. Seriously. We (guys) are veeery good at living in fantasy-land. The afore mentioned items will bring reality into it. You don't want to do that. Make me feel "special". Granted, some will turn out to be stalkers. But not me. I'll just throw monkey-poop at you.
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    ^^ One of my faves updates me on her little redheaded daughter every time I go in. She is a third generation redheaded dancer, but she says her little girl will not be one if she can help it. She has already put $10,000 into her college fund. I have contributed my share.

    A previous fave told me about her husband deployed in Iraq. They were both in the Army reserves, he was deployed, and she wasn't. He knew she was a dancer. "I pay my bills," is how she put it.

    I don't mind this sort of conversation. I actually enjoy it.

    Other dancers want to keep their family information private. That's their decision, not mine.

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    Option B and C are much more effective approaches.I will usually only go for the
    wanna dance approach when the first two approaches happen to be infrequent.

    By option C I am referring to doing or saying something that seperates you from the (sometimes large ) crowd of Dancers also looking for dances.

    Option C approaches that have worked on me in the past:

    1..Asking me what I think of your costume.Or you hair.Or anything really.Your odds go up higher once I start talking to you.

    2.A good joke can be good as well.One dancer told me her portable gps device was broken, would I mind showing her the way to the dance room so she wouldnt get lost along the way.

    3.An introduction from a Barmaid, waitress or dancer that I already know.
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    I vote B as well. Approach A is just so impersonal, so off-putting. Primarily, I want to exchange a few words just to make each make each other comfortable. Secondarily, I want to look her over, and imagine how good she'd look in my lap naked, and to prepare mentally for a LD.

    I don't need 10 minutes. 3 to 5 is enough for me to be ready to either get a LD, or to be left alone for someone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by MojoJojo View Post
    B...easily B....but don't talk about kids or boyfriends or husbands or needing money. Seriously. We (guys) are veeery good at living in fantasy-land. The afore mentioned items will bring reality into it. You don't want to do that.
    Well, of course. To me, SC is my X-box, my PS3, or Wii. It is my videogame, only in 3D, and in very high resolution. To me the characters that strip for me do not exist outside the 50x100x20-foot structure. Yes, the actresses who portray the stripper characters have a life outside the SC, but not the characters themselves. These characters do not have boyfriends, husbands, or need money. All that these characters have is a beautiful body, a terrific smile, a skimpy dress, and witty remarks to my comments. These characters magically upboot onto the stage when I enter the SC, and cease to exist when I walk out the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MojoJojo View Post
    B...easily B....but don't talk about kids or boyfriends or husbands or needing money. Seriously. We (guys) are veeery good at living in fantasy-land. The afore mentioned items will bring reality into it. You don't want to do that. Make me feel "special". Granted, some will turn out to be stalkers. But not me. I'll just throw monkey-poop at you.
    I guess I'm an oddball in that respect. I don't mind talk about boyfriends, kids, etc. I don't mind talking about her life. If it doesn't come up, then I won't ask, but if it does, I'll participate and even ask follow-up questions if that seems to be where she wants to take the conversation. I don't really try and get past reality. She's doing a job, providing a service that I enjoy. Much like any other investment, though, I want to get a little familiar with where I'm allocating my resources for the evening. I agree with the 3-5 minute time-line. We don't need to act like we're becoming friends or anything. I just need to get an idea of what she's like to see whether or not our time in the back is going to be an enjoyable experience or a miserable "God, please don't play Free Bird during this set..." affair.

    Years ago, when I first started going to clubs, I would habitually turn down the "Wanna dance?" ladies without even really assessing whether I really wanted a dance from them (unless of course we had exchanged words at the tip rail, I knew her from a previous visit, or I really liked her stage show). Now I go wherever the winds of my mood take me. I know, not much help to the topic at hand. On a cold call, though, it's still a 90% chance that I'll turn down the quick hitter just as fast as she tried to hit me up for my money.

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    To all the guys who said B........How many dances do u 'usually' buy in a row?

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    A. and B. would never work for me if i haven't seen them in action first, I mostly approach the one i wanna a dance from by watching how good she does onstage or while she's giving a lap/tabledance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden41 View Post
    To all the guys who said B........How many dances do u 'usually' buy in a row?
    Currently, I buy either two or three. Occassionally one or four. I tip up to the next level.

    But then again I am a newbie to this, so I am not yet settled into a routine yet.

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    I like was bsteve said a lot. I wish everyone thought exactly like that.

    It looks like 5-10 minutes is about the right time to sit with a customer. That's what I've been doing so this is encouraging. Even on very busy nights I sit with a customer long enough to find out his name, if he's ever been to the club before/how often he comes in, and what he does for a living.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golden41 View Post
    To all the guys who said B........How many dances do u 'usually' buy in a row?
    Between 2 and 20. Depends on the dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDanielle View Post
    I like was bsteve said a lot. I wish everyone thought exactly like that.
    Thank you!

    At least last night I was able to post something without pissing someone off.

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    It's usually C for me. In my case, this means I've already gone up to the stage for a dance or two there, and I feel like there's some connection (or potential for one) with the dancer. After that, I'll keep an eye on her, and either approach to ask for a private, or say "yes" if she approaches me.

    At this point, I usually am waiting for one of my "favorites" when I'm in the club, so I'm not likely to go with someone else unless none of them look like they'll be available anytime soon.

    I usually do 4-7 songs at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden41 View Post
    To all the guys who said B........How many dances do u 'usually' buy in a row?
    Depends on the set groupings, but if it's single dance pricing, I'll usually get at least three. Sometimes more, but almost never less.

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    Any approach works for me, provided it comes across as natural, and the "in your face" isn't excessively aggressive. In the end what really matters is whether I'm attracted to the girl, and what kind of chemistry there is.

    Whatever approach you take, just don't be dull or too obviously fake.

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    I usually buy between $100 and $200 in a row. Divide that by the price of a dance and subtract twenty for a tip.

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