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    http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1541

    Finally, it seems the American public is starting to see what a lightweight Obama is. After Saturday's quasi-debate at Sabbleback full of evasive non-answers and America-bashing, McCain has now opened up a 5 point lead.
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    thats funny headline news said obama has a 3 point lead about 10 minutes ago.

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    Zogby polls are NOTORIOUS for being very off. Those are polls that people should probably take with a grain of salt. Most of the other polls have Obama still up.
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    In other words: Boo-motherfucking-hoo

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    I wouldn't want to meet the person who votes according to polls. I know too many dumb bastards already.

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    Once he gets back in the public his polling will go back up.

    (It's all about the questions that are asked too.)

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    I also just saw that Obama was 3 points ahead according to the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll. John McSame has gained a few points though

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    Quote Originally Posted by bem401 View Post
    Finally, it seems the American public is starting to see what a lightweight Obama is. After Saturday's quasi-debate at Sabbleback full of evasive non-answers and America-bashing, McCain has now opened up a 5 point lead.
    I would credit any gain for McCain to be due to the negative/misleading campaigning more than people seeing what a "lightweight" Obama is. Hopefully, the negative campaigning comes back to bite him in the ass too. As for the quasi-debate at Saddleback, what was the point of that? I highly doubt it changed anybody's opinion on either candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard_Head View Post
    As for the quasi-debate at Saddleback, what was the point of that? I highly doubt it changed anybody's opinion on either candidate.
    Are you kidding me? That event made Obama look like a moron. Three cases in point:

    1. The 3 advisors he'd rely on once in office are his wife, his grandmother, and Ted Kennedy? WTF? ( An America-hater, a typical white lady ( his words), and a bloated drunk who should have gone to jail 40 years ago).

    2. He mentions US actions as examples of evil in the world and omits Al-Qaeda completely. This comes on the tails of that campaign stop in Germany where he basically trashed America. Think about that - America apologizing to the Germans. No country on earth does more for other countries than America.

    3. He can't define when a fetus/baby is entitled to human rights. C'mon, everyone has an opinion on that. He aspires to the highest job on the planet and says that question is above his pay grade? That has to be the dumbest answer of all-time, but he was cornered. The truth is that he opposed a bill requiring doctors to provide care to babies who survive partial-birth abortions, so he actually is supporting infanticide in that case. Think about it. One of the most notorious crimes we hear about are babies abandoned by mothers in dumpsters or bathrooms right after giving birth. The press and public go nuts screaming for the guilty party or parties to be caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Yet Obama voted to deny medical care to live babies who survived partial-birth abortions, preferring to leave them to die on the table. In the eyes of most people, that makes him a monster as well as a liar.

    Obama star is fading. And fast. Not that .
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    Wow. Who are you voting for if you don't mind me asking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    Ya'll bitches need to calm down. Cerously.
    In other words: Boo-motherfucking-hoo

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    Are you really Ann Coulter, Bem? I think Obama came across as a better Christian than McCain. McCain can't even decide which religion he actually is.

    Above his pay grade is a reference that God only knows that answer right now. If science isn't sure, how can you think a senator who finished nearly last in class at military school knows definitively? And why don't you celebrate your day of conception instead of your birth? If McCain believes that he should feel obligated to make abortion equal to murder.

    Obama listed several colleagues whose advice he would consider. McCain threw out John Lewis, who responded by saying
    “I cannot stop one human being, even a presidential candidate, from admiring the courage and sacrifice of peaceful protesters on the Edmund Pettus Bridge or making comments about it.” But, he added, “Sen. McCain and I are colleagues in the US Congress, not confidantes. He does not consult me. And I do not consult him.”

    What was this? Some attempt to include a token African-American? From a guy who spent years denying MLK a holiday in AZ?!

    I thought Obama's answers were nuanced and thoughtful and personal. McCain's new campaign slogan should be:

    Simple Answers for Simple People!

    Drill Now! Defeat Evil! No Abortion Ever!
    Last edited by Dirty Ernie; 08-21-2008 at 07:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Ernie View Post
    Are you really Ann Coulter, Bem?
    Heh, I've had the same thought.

    From the "N-word" thread ('I would use the word to hurt a black person'), to the "White People Frustrated" thread ('They takin' our JERBS via affirmative action!), and now this. Wow guy, are you happy about anything colored people do, say, have or accomplish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    Ya'll bitches need to calm down. Cerously.
    In other words: Boo-motherfucking-hoo

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    Here's a Zogby poll for you Bem. From July '08. The Electoral Vote Poll
    http://www.zogby.com/News/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1523

    This is far more important than random voter polls and Obama is kicking serious ass in this one.

    Plus there are alot of Obama supporters who probably don't have landlines and are thus excluded from traditional polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Ernie View Post
    I think Obama came across as a better Christian than McCain. McCain can't even decide which religion he actually is.

    From a guy who spent years denying MLK a holiday in AZ?!

    I thought Obama's answers were nuanced and thoughtful and personal.
    lol what Q&A did you watch? From the opening of him trying to quote Matthew, his answers, esp. dealing with religion, were hesitant and confused as if he didn't even know what he was talking about.

    Kinda expect that though, with a pastor like his (Wright).

    McCain was brought up Episc, and attends South Bap. What exactly do you mean 'he can't decide'. The 2 are not too far off.

    Why should we have a holiday for someone who's ;files' are still sealed? What are they hiding?

    Obama was confused, and was trying to think about what he was going to/ trying to say. McCain knows what he believes and didn't have to 'think' about it.

    NObama!!!!!!

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    Why is religion important in politics anyway? I would feel better if the next president was agnostic. Christians are some of the least Christ-like people I've ever met.
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    From the U.S. Constitution:

    "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

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    It's not a religious test. If you put it out, people have a right to judge you by it.

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    The response was to Miss Lucious' question. Or, more succinctly: "It's not supposed to be."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Luscious View Post
    Why is religion important in politics anyway? I would feel better if the next president was agnostic. Christians are some of the least Christ-like people I've ever met.
    Political Christians are some of the least Christ-like people I've ever met.

    There, fixed that for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Zeno View Post
    The response was to Miss Lucious' question. Or, more succinctly: "It's not supposed to be."
    But it always will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPLUT View Post
    I wouldn't want to meet the person who votes according to polls. I know too many dumb bastards already.
    Amen!

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    so.....how many houese does McCain have, 4,5,7....11....11 homes

    and remember your middle class if you make under 5 million a year....

    huge blunders by McCain showing how out of touch he is. They better not ask him how much bread costs, ala George H, cuz he will surely say, Bread 10 cents, milk is a nickel..

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Real View Post
    so.....how many houese does McCain have, 4,5,7....11....11 homes

    and remember your middle class if you make under 5 million a year....

    huge blunders by McCain showing how out of touch he is. They better not ask him how much bread costs, ala George H, cuz he will surely say, Bread 10 cents, milk is a nickel..
    Well, what did you expect, he didn't know how much a gallon of gas cost either. Stop your whining.

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    I'm glad McCain set the bar at 5 million. That way Obama and his wife having earned only 4.5 million can hang out with us regular folk.

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    ^ thats amazing

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    The more I hear from both of them, the more I beleive they're both useless.

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