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    Default How to "Upsell" when....

    the CR is actually just an extended version of the LD's.

    CR: No contact, Full nude. $200, 30 minutes. Guy gets a bottle of champagne or $30 worth of drink credits. The room is the same as the LD room, except it has a leather couch.

    LD: No contact, Full nude. $20, 1 song. The room is the same as the CR except it has a chair instead of a couch.

    So when guys ask me "So you mean, CR dances are the same as LD's here?" and I have to say "Well, yeah..." then I basically lose the sale almost every time.

    How would you guys phrase this type of CR situation to make it sound "worth it"? I've tried explaining it like "Well, the CR is for guys who know they want to spend more time with their favorite girl, plus you don't have to deal with song breaks, and you get free drinks!" but it doesn't seem to work.

    Hustler girls, help me!! How would you sell this room?

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    Default Re: How to "Upsell" when....

    So the CR is not even more private than the LD room?

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    Default Re: How to "Upsell" when....

    Well all of our LD/CR rooms have doors (swinging doors, like in old westerns but with more coverage).

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    Default Re: How to "Upsell" when....

    NEVER tell guys a CR is the same as the LD. Ok, 1st of all be vague- "Its much more sensual" in a low conspiring voice tone that implies him knowing what you mean. That way you're making it sound good without saying anything specific or promising anything bad. And I think a couch could be a good selling point so i would work that into the schpiel- "And we get the couch all to ourselves...thats where we drink and get naughty" once again- vague. The last thing is to know when to stop talking. 2-3 sentences is enough, then you get up and lead him to the CR therefore assuming the sale. And stop thinking of it as not being worth it - you have to believe that its the best thing in the world and that he will have a great time- otherwise it will show in your demeanor if you think the CR is overpriced crap.
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    hmmm..... Hopefully someone who has experience will pop in, but if that were me, I would probably appeal more to the "status" of being in VIP. I think a certain type of man would go for it for sure. You know, the guys who come in and brag about their businesses, ect.? You could also maybe stress that there are no interruptions and no song-counting. You can just relax for the whole half-hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saphire123456 View Post
    otherwise it will show in your demeanor if you think the CR is overpriced crap.
    Yup, I agree. Believe yourself it is worth it has proven to me to be very important.

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    Default Re: How to "Upsell" when....

    Well it ISN'T overpriced crap. It's actually a good deal, and I believe this. Because they're literally getting a better price on LD's as a result of the alcohol deal.

    And I've tried the "it's more sensual" thing, but then they go "so what exactly does that mean? can we touch?" and I then have to admit that we can't.

    I work in a really small club--it's not like people are throwing hundreds all over the place. So yes, they always take the time to ask about the contact level specifically in the CR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMoon View Post
    hmmm..... Hopefully someone who has experience will pop in, but if that were me, I would probably appeal more to the "status" of being in VIP. I think a certain type of man would go for it for sure. You know, the guys who come in and brag about their businesses, ect.? You could also maybe stress that there are no interruptions and no song-counting. You can just relax for the whole half-hour.
    This is definitely a good start. I like the "no stress" part.

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    Default Re: How to "Upsell" when....

    Quote Originally Posted by saphire123456 View Post
    And I think a couch could be a good selling point so i would work that into the schpiel- "And we get the couch all to ourselves...thats where we drink and get naughty" once again- vague. The last thing is to know when to stop talking. 2-3 sentences is enough, then you get up and lead him to the CR therefore assuming the sale.
    Great advice.

    Also you have to start swaying them with emotion not free drinks. Guys don't go to VIP for free drinks.

    You could say things like its very private back there where we can enjoy each other one on one without being disturbed. While you are doing it make eye contact and touch their arm or thigh. Read their body language while you talk. They already want you for a dance so make them want you more to spend more money.
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    Default Re: How to "Upsell" when....

    maybe you should try cutting them off before they get to those hard questions- just tell them "trust me, you'll be very happy" take him by the hand and start walking. there's no need to play 20 questions so try to not give them a chance to put you on the spot.
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    Default Re: How to "Upsell" when....

    Also a possible sale point...can you drink?
    If you can, then sell them on that idea. If they are in a nude club and they think they can get you into a private room and get you semi-drunk.....let their fantasies run away with them!

    Of course, this can turn bad if they have plied you with a couple glasses of champagne and you aren't getting any closer. This is when it is good to have a floor host handy... " but I'll get in so much trouble!" etc. etc.

    Or, I could be totally wrong. But it's a possible idea if you can't sell them any other way. Sometimes you can judge if a guy is going to push it too far or not.

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    Default Re: How to "Upsell" when....

    I try to play up how its more intimate and we can really get to know each other over some drinks, away from everyone else.

    However, I would be careful not to mislead a customer too much about what he is going to get in VIP. That could turn ugly.
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    Default Re: How to "Upsell" when....

    Good idea, lildreamer, but I'm too young to drink.

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