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    I went into work today and there was a new sign in our dressing room:

    "TABLE DANCES ARE COMPULSORY IF THE CUSTOMER REQUESTS THEM."

    Table dances meaning $10 no-contact instead of the regular $20 lapdances.

    I spoke with the manager and expressed my disapproval and he told me it was find not to dance for them as long as I'm willing to get another dancer to do the dance. Fine. Fair enough.....

    .....but I'm wondering, as independent contractors, can they do this?

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    Oh bullshit on THAT. I dont dance for ANYONE I dont want to and fuck any club that tried to force me to.

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    ^^^Yeah, I feel the same way but I'm just wondering if they have the right? What I think doesn't really matter....... :/

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    Thats some bs right there...like CK said, I don't dance for anyone that I don't wanna dance for. And legally I don't think they can even make you give a dance just because someone asks for it. IMO, thats a club I wouldn't continue to work at.

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    I wouldn't want to be forced to dance for someone I found extremely smelly or who seemed like he was going to be agressive or something. But as a customer it must be really humiliating to have a dancer turn you down when you're offering her money for a 4-minute dance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissNicole21 View Post
    IMO, thats a club I wouldn't continue to work at.
    I wouldn't if they actually forced me to dance for someone, but like I said in my first post, we can refuse as long as we are willing to send another girl to him which I think it is fair. It's bad for the whole club if there is money to be spent that goes home with the customer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrodieLux View Post
    But as a customer it must be really humiliating to have a dancer turn you down when you're offering her money for a 4-minute dance.
    It's rare someone wants a dance that I won't dance for, but I turn them down extremely politely. "I'd love to dance for you but I'm actually busy at the maybe. I think K is free and she's a great dancer, would you like me to send her to you?"

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    Just wondering, how do the other girls that you work with feel about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMoon View Post
    It's rare someone wants a dance that I won't dance for, but I turn them down extremely politely. "I'd love to dance for you but I'm actually busy at the maybe. I think K is free and she's a great dancer, would you like me to send her to you?"
    Oh I like that, super smooooth
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissNicole21 View Post
    Just wondering, how do the other girls that you work with feel about this?
    I haven't asked but the girls at my club appear to be very passive. Although this perception could be incorrect because I don't talk with them that often.

    I don't see it being an issue because I haven't been asked to do a table dance EVER in almost a year of dancing. The only time I do them is during a negociation when the guys wants a 3 for $50 or something.

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    But that would seem like it would screw up the $$$ a bit. What if the guy wants you, you say no, you send another girl, but he doesn't want her, he wants you? Sorry for asking so many questions. The new rule at your club just has my mind going right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissNicole21 View Post
    But that would seem like it would screw up the $$$ a bit. What if the guy wants you, you say no, you send another girl, but he doesn't want her, he wants you? Sorry for asking so many questions. The new rule at your club just has my mind going right now.
    Well, I would ask him before sending another girl and choose someone with a similar look (slender, dark hair, small boobs). Point her out, ask if he would like me to send her.

    If he says no, at least I offered!

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    ^^^I guess that seems about right. Its just the 1st time that I've ever heard of that rule being in a club. But yeah, if you don't do dances that often then it won't be a problem for you I'm sure.

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    Well we do dances, but just contact lapdances at $20 a pop. The $10 table dances are pretty much history.

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    IMO it doesnt matter why you are turning him down. Maybe he smells bad,maybe you know hes a perv, maybe your back is killing you and you need a few minutes rest...they arent paying you therefore they have no right to REQUIRE you to dance for someone just because they want a dance. Nor should you have to send some other girl over to deal with a custie there might be a very good reason not to dance for.

    It REALLY bothers me when people I AM PAYING try to tell me what to do. I'll work how I want to and dance for who I want to thank you very much.

    If management is so all fired worried about it...you should be able to send the custie to THEM to deal with. THEY can find another girl for him...it's not your job.

    I wouldnt do it honestly. At all.

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    I think I am going to call the labour board on Monday just because I want to know.

    As far as I'm concerned, the issue is resolved, but I still want to know because I'm a bitch like that.

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    You mentioned in another post "table dances are almost history" So I think you are misunderstanding the point. Which is if a customer asks for a table dance, you can't tell him you only do the 20.00 contact dances. I don't think the point was that you have to dance for everyone who asks you, just that the 10. table dances are still available. Maybe there were complaints that girls refused to do the 10 dollar dances or something?

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    technically no they cant do it but tghey do worse on a regular basis.

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    Gotta love those club owners that want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to treat you like an employee when it comes to giving orders like this, but suddenly you're an independent contractor when it comes to minimum wage and benefits.

    Sorry, bub, don't work that way. You are an independent contractor, you are self-employed, and you have every right to refuse the customers if necessary. We all know you wouldn't reject a customer unless there was a valid reason, so stick to your guns.

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    Ugh, no way would I do table dances. Guys ask for that at my club and I tell them I don't dance on the floor, only on stage or in the back. If the club tried to make us dance at the tables I'd probably quit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanGirl View Post
    You mentioned in another post "table dances are almost history" So I think you are misunderstanding the point. Which is if a customer asks for a table dance, you can't tell him you only do the 20.00 contact dances. I don't think the point was that you have to dance for everyone who asks you, just that the 10. table dances are still available. Maybe there were complaints that girls refused to do the 10 dollar dances or something?
    This is precisely it and I'm aware of it.

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    That is messed up! I honestly don't think they're considering all of the ramifications of this policy. Some girls don't dance for guys who look drugged out or dangerous. Maybe ask your employer, "so, if I'm forced to dance for this guy and he assaults me during the dance, you'll be responsible, right?"

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    ^^^I already got the okay from the owner's son to not.

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    Labor board? I hate to say it but your an independent Contractor, self-employed, not an employee. The labor board will not respond. Even if they did respond to your complaint you will have to disclose all your personal information. Once the club sees who filed the complaint I would expect your contract to be cancelled on the spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteryman View Post
    Labor board? I hate to say it but your an independent Contractor, self-employed, not an employee. The labor board will not respond. Even if they did respond to your complaint you will have to disclose all your personal information. Once the club sees who filed the complaint I would expect your contract to be cancelled on the spot.
    There are still regulations which govern my status as an independent contractor. Certain standards must be met in order for them to get out of the "employee" title. They may not be able to answer this question but if anyone knows, they do.

    And I never said I was filing a complaint. You can call and ask anonymous questions.

    There is no contract with my club.

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