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    Default Why do patrons want to touch the dancers?

    Okay. I swear I'm not dense. But I was wondering the other day why it is that customers (most of them) want to touch the dancers.

    So, to the blues out there-->

    If you have desired to (or have acted upon the desire to) touch a stripper, then why is this?

    Is it purely for your own enjoyment of our bodies--with the hope that the stripper is merely a neutral, physically-present being? (total objectification)
    Is it because you think that you and the stripper would both enjoy mutual touching?
    Is the customer deluded into thinking that the stripper would get off on it? (not that this isn't somewhat understandable--strippers can be very good actresses)
    Does the customer honestly not give a shit whether or not the girl would enjoy being touched?

    I'm sure the answers vary. But, as a stripper, it's so obvious to me that the typical, no-extras stripper wouldn't be turned on by random guys touching her...so why do (the majority of) patrons seem to think think that strippers want contact?

    Sorry if this seems like a stupid question. Enlighten me! Even if you aren't one of the deluded grabby patrons, bless me with your insight into others' actions.

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    Default Re: Why do patrons want to touch the dancers?

    I've been meaning to ask that myself.

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    We call it "Suspension of Disbelief".
    I have taught that the sky in all its zones is mortal and its substance was formed by a process of birth

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    I don't think they're thinking about us, or even about what they're doing. It's a very basic instinct - soft pretty girl, want touch, *grab*. I don't think there's anything more to it; they're just acting on their impulses without thinking of the consequences to us or themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Okay. I swear I'm not dense. But I was wondering the other day why it is that customers (most of them) want to touch the dancers.

    So, to the blues out there-->

    If you have desired to (or have acted upon the desire to) touch a stripper, then why is this?

    Is it purely for your own enjoyment of our bodies--with the hope that the stripper is merely a neutral, physically-present being? (total objectification)
    Is it because you think that you and the stripper would both enjoy mutual touching?
    Is the customer deluded into thinking that the stripper would get off on it? (not that this isn't somewhat understandable--strippers can be very good actresses)
    Does the customer honestly not give a shit whether or not the girl would enjoy being touched?

    I'm sure the answers vary. But, as a stripper, it's so obvious to me that the typical, no-extras stripper wouldn't be turned on by random guys touching her...so why do (the majority of) patrons seem to think think that strippers want contact?

    Sorry if this seems like a stupid question. Enlighten me! Even if you aren't one of the deluded grabby patrons, bless me with your insight into others' actions.


    just kidding but most guys that do this feel exactly this way, the guys that do this see strippers as nothing more than ass and tits that they are paying to entertain them and since they are paying feel they can do basically what they want to do

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    Me personally, I "like" them to touch me because it means I have to do less work.

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    ^^ Not me. It means I'm in in combat mode!

    "Here comes a hand! *Change positions* Now he's trying to lick! *Flip hair in front of his face* Another hand! *Pin it down and giggle* AHHH! Another hand!! *Drop down to knees* Noooo! Now the first hand is free again!!"

    Turns the dance into something not fun for either of us. Honestly, if a guy is nice and not grabby, I'll put his hand on my waist myself as a reward. That, and he's earned my trust not to pull shit so we both have a much better time. Dude will probably even get an appreciative peck on the cheek for being the 1 out 5 customers who was a gentleman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grindonme View Post
    the guys that do this see strippers as nothing more than ass and tits that they are paying to entertain them and since they are paying feel they can do basically what they want to do
    that's always been my guess. Hey, if they see us as nothing but T&A that they can do anything to because they're "paying for it"...then there's nothing wrong with seeing them only as walking wallets. Works for both of us.

    I agree, I give the decent respectful non-grabby ones more contact...and more satisfying contact. As opposed to "touch for a few seconds before I squirm away, then repeat for four minutes."
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    So, to the blues out there
    You'd probably get more responses if you actually posted this in blue.

    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Is it purely for your own enjoyment of our bodies--with the hope that the stripper is merely a neutral, physically-present being? (total objectification)
    This would be my guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_Loblaw View Post
    You'd probably get more responses if you actually posted this in blue.
    Yeah...I'm blue-side retarded.

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    i suggest posting it on the blue side with an anonymous poll. that way they can answer the "i don't care" type of answers without "fear" of being directly yelled at.

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    I don't get it either. esp over here where prostitution is legal. if you wanna touch go see a prostitute.

    I have zero tolerance for being touched. It makes me extremely uncomfortable to have a perfect stranger putting his hands on my body, it makes my skin crawl.

    It is VERY RARE when I have allowed a customer even to touch my back or stomach. At my club those areas are allowed but I dont trust most of the shifty, sneaky fuckers just try to move their hands up further to my tits so fuck that I can't do a dance when I'm sitting there nervous that Im gonna get sexually assaulted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    I don't get it either. esp over here where prostitution is legal. if you wanna touch go see a prostitute.
    hmmm...... I work in a reasonably heavy contact club. Guys can touch anything except pussy and mouth including tits, ass, legs, stomach, ect. I rub my body all over the guys. It's just the norm at my club and I'm used to it.

    I don't really see myself as a prostitute, though. Not that I would have a problem with the label (I hold nothing against prostitutes) but I don't see it.

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    ^^
    Im not calling anyone a prostitute. Im saying over here where prostitution is legal why dont the guys who want to touch go visit one.
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    ^^^hmmm.... okay. Where I am from they can legally call an escort service and have a escort delivered to their door who will suck and fuck for cash legally.

    I guess the reason many choose a stripper over an escort/prostitute is that they just want the human contact and not the sex.

    I spend time with a lot of guys who just want to cuddle and feel another warm body against them. They don't want a prostitute.

    Just my perspective but I see where you are coming from as Australia is much different

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    Yeh I get the physical thing. I'll cuddle some customers and I stroke their hair etc.

    But specifically for my club, why come in here knowing it's no touching (all the clubs in the city are no touching) and then either gripe about it or assault the dancers by touching them? Seems silly esp when there are brothels just around the corner.

    It's prob just a case of them wanting what they can't have. Just like how they want a dance off the bar chicks just coz they dont dance. YAWN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    But specifically for my club, why come in here knowing it's no touching (all the clubs in the city are no touching) and then either gripe about it or assault the dancers by touching them? Seems silly esp when there are brothels just around the corner.
    That is pretty ridiculous. I feel the same way when customers come in soliciting us for sex. It's so easy to get and rates for escorts run about $240/hour which is less than a stripper!!!

    We recently had a customer come in who dropped about $2000 or more on "dances" and he spent the entirely time telling us "don't dance you will just give me blue balls. I want (insert illegal sex act here)."

    He spent $400 on me. I normally hate being solicited for sex but if someone wants to pay me $400 to turn them down, I'll do it

    His $2000 could have gotten him an escort for a week or something!!!

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    ^^
    sad thing is a prostitute at a licensed brothel will cost less than $80 here. Or you can have a lap dance with no touching for $50 for 10 mins. Hmmmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    ^^
    sad thing is a prostitute at a licensed brothel will cost less than $80 here.
    So to make the same as a minimum wage worker in the time of one year, I would need to take 225 cocks .

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    ^^
    House keeps half so for an hour they get $40.

    There is also one real dive place where sex is $30 so their cut is $15.

    I find out this from one of our costume sellers as they also sell to brothels. Her mother worked as a prostitute too.
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    Definitely didn't mean to start a thread about how much we dislike the customers who touch us illegally...

    I'm honestly curious as to the motives behind those who touch. I don't get it personally b/c I wouldn't want to touch someone unless they told me that they wanted to be touched...so is this the case with all of them? That they assume we would enjoy being touched?

    Might be a mote thread b/c I should've posted in in blue. But still...

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    450 cocks per year to live just above the poverty line???

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Definitely didn't mean to start a thread about how much we dislike the customers who touch us illegally...

    I'm honestly curious as to the motives behind those who touch. I don't get it personally b/c I wouldn't want to touch someone unless they told me that they wanted to be touched...so is this the case with all of them? That they assume we would enjoy being touched?

    Might be a mote thread b/c I should've posted in in blue. But still...
    I'm sorry. It sucks when a thread get hijacked but I believe you did start a good discussion.

    I would be curious to see what the blue side has to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post

    I'm honestly curious as to the motives behind those who touch. I don't get it personally b/c I wouldn't want to touch someone unless they told me that they wanted to be touched...so is this the case with all of them? That they assume we would enjoy being touched?
    I think they honestly don't care how the dancer feels. All they care about is their own pleasure and don't care how bad they make the other person feel. It's a shame some people are horrible.
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    Some of the most effortlessly beautiful, kind, intelligent, successful, motivated, driven and ridiculously hilarious women that I have ever met have been dancers. I've met the best friends that I've ever had in this industry.

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    ^^

    I don't know...that's pretty cynical.

    I'd buy that perspective for a few customers, but a number of custies who have tried to touch me often have very innocent looks on their faces (and I'm good at reading people). It's like I'm so good at my job that they really believe we're having a mutual moment of pleasure together (not that this is a hard facade to create).

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