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    I tried to find a thread on this but couldn't find one, so I hope I'm not re-posting on the same subject. I've always been somewhat shy when going up to approach guys, and sometimes I just don't...but I've noticed that the custies I have and the guys who've bought me drinks before approached me 1st. It's wierd I know...sometimes I just sit there minding my own business and they'll come up to me and ask if I would like them to buy me a drink. I don't know what it is...and when I do approach guys, they usually say "no"...I don't know why its only with me. Has anyone else gotten custies and $$$ this way???

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    ^^

    Yes! On a "normal" shift, I still don't approach that often (unless it's super dead or something special is going on).

    I am sure there are a lot of shy guys who WANT to be approached and that is why they come to the strip club - but I also think there are a lot of guys who ENJOY not being preyed upon and like to pursue us a bit also...I may not have much time under my belt, but from what I've seen inside my club, this is true. The guys can and do come up to YOU, especially when you are mindin' your own....
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    There have been a many occasions where I would act like I just wanted to sit down and rest my feet at a custy's table (Of course I was hustling, but they didn't know that ).



    ME - "It's freaking crowded in here, no chairs to sit in, and I'm bored off my ass--I just want to sit down and rest my feet. Do you mind if I sit here for a minute?"

    CUSTY - "Sure, go ahead." (Isn't interested, of course).

    ME - (I sit there and don't say a DAMN WORD to him. I look around the club, wave at the bartender/DJ, watch the stage, fix my shoes, blah, blah, blah. I act TOTALLY uninterested, like I really couldn't care less that he is sitting there).

    CUSTY - (Sees that I don't care and starts asking ME questions, which eventually leads to him spending money).


    I can pretty much tell just by looking at a guy if I need to use this technique. So yes, there are guys in the club who want to do all the pursuing.
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    Yup. I have the same tactics as you Mily....guys like it when you retain a little mystery. When you fawn all over them, sure, that could work, but I believe guys are always more intrigued by someone who is a little reserved and who doesn't tell them their life story upon meeting them.

    ETA: i do approach them though! And say hello first usually.

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    Right, men always want what they can't have.



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    If it is a hard hustle "wanna dance club" you may need some soft approaches to get past their defense mechanisms.

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    Mily! I love your tactic! it's awesome!

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    Very interesting, Mily! I never thought this would work but I think I might give it a try sometime.

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    Not talking to customers doesen't really make sense to me, since we are in a "sales" type job, where you kind of need to be outgoing and approach men....

    this does seem interesting though...i may have to try this when i really just dont want to go up to anyone....

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    Unfortunately, customers that approach me ask for dates (both kinds- OTC or "hold my hand then my dick" dates.) So I dislike being approached, it's rarely good or productive.

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    Thanks guys! Like I said, I can pretty much tell if I need to use this tactic. Some signs to look for: He's been sitting by himself for a long time, he's on his cell phone (trying to act busy), or he just looks bored/apathetic period. I don't know how to explain it. I guess in sales, in time, you just learn how to read people. Good luck!



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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexisXTC461 View Post
    this does seem interesting though...i may have to try this when i really just dont want to go up to anyone....
    True that. I've pulled this trick when I was just plain old lazy and didn't feel like working at all. Bored customer + lazy stripper can = $$$$$$$$$$$.



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    I definitely understand the theory behind this, but on a night shift, in the time I spent sitting down and waiting for a customer to come to me, I probably could have found 3 customers who were ready for dances.

    If I ever got stuck on a day shift again, I would for sure give this a shot, but it doesn't seem very efficient to do this when there's easier money to be made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDanielle View Post
    I definitely understand the theory behind this, but on a night shift, in the time I spent sitting down and waiting for a customer to come to me, I probably could have found 3 customers who were ready for dances.

    If I ever got stuck on a day shift again, I would for sure give this a shot, but it doesn't seem very efficient to do this when there's easier money to be made.
    That's definitely my take on it. It could work on a really slow night.

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    This definitely isn't something I do on a normal, night-to-night basis. It's a tactic that I use when I need to, i.e; yes... when it's not that busy, when there's 50 thousand girls and 10 guys ITC, if I can tell the guy is playing hard-to-get, or when I really am tired, bored, etc. Other than that... of course... go and get your money from willing participants.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mily View Post
    This definitely isn't something I do on a normal, night-to-night basis. It's a tactic that I use when I need to, i.e; yes... when it's not that busy, when there's 50 thousand girls and 10 guys ITC, if I can tell the guy is playing hard-to-get, or when I really am tired, bored, etc. Other than that... of course... go and get your money from willing participants.
    Makes sense. I'll probably try it. I'm not sure if acting aloof will work at our club, but we never know until we try

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    sometimes it happens to me too how i would be walking around and people saying no to dances so i chill in a corner and get bombarded with private shows... one night i made more money not approaching than i did asking custys...... beats me!

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    This strategy works best when you are standing alone, preferably near the lap dance area! Or when you go sit in the first available seat RIGHT next to their table, but not directly there.

    Just be sure to sit straight, but without looking at them, don't slouch or slump as they'll be more afraid to strike up a conversation. I've had it work out this way quite a few times, especially recently, and early in the evening, when I've just started to go on the floor.

    Sometimes it works on busy nights, too, because after a guy has been bombarded by a bunch of girls, the girl who is 'just out of reach' and doesn't come right up to them can suddenly seem infinitely attractive. Especially to those guys who turn down the first few girls out of habit, and who think that the girls who hang back are the 'alphas.'
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    yes! sometimes on busy nights i make more $ standing near the bar area/staircase that leads up to the LD rooms than going from guy-to-guy. I think how it works is it allows guys who are interested in buying a dance from you to come up to you since it is obvious you are not busy, whereas if you are constantly sitting with some guy or another for a couple songs each you are not making yourself "available" for someone who may be waiting to spend lots of cash on you.

    The notable exceptions i make are: young Indian men, because they really seem to like me and almost always get dances from me within about a minute of talking, and sometimes LOTS of dances; and white guys over 30 who are there ALONE, with the right one I can make $100-$300

    For some reason often when I'm sitting with an over-30 white guy, we're chatting for a few songs and then at some point I start to get the conversation to taper off a bit and then at a point we're both just sitting there staring at the stage, he will ask me for a dance. I don't know why. Maybe he feels my interest in him fading and realizes he has to do something fast

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    I've done this before and not even been aware of it.

    Sometimes on slower nights, I won't do the dreaded "tip walk," and will just go right from the stage to the darkest corner of the bar. I just sit there, and watch other girls perform, especially if it's not a high-hustle type of joint. It never fails, some guy will wander over to my table, buy me a drink, and start asking me questions. The next thing you know, he's coming up to see me at my stage, or buying a VIP dance.

    Sometimes it's nice to have someone else drive the "conversation" car while you're just a passenger along for the ride. The best part is, he thinks all of this is his idea, and for a guy who might be wifepwnt at home, this is probably THE best thing ever, lol!

    I had forgotten about this approach to attracting a customer's attention. I wouldn't recommend it as a standard method of hustling, especially if you work someplace where management keeps track of how much time you spend with a custie, but I've had decent results with this technique when used sparingly.

    Thanks for posting this. It's definitely information worth noting.

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    not sure if this will work for me, but I'll try it. There was a time where I was just unintentionally looking aloff standing by myself after being turned down sooo many times and one customer approached me. I ended up making the most money out of him, the most in my entire career. I charged 1000 an hour b/c he told me I can get whatever I wanted. we spent a few hours together. Not trying to brag but that experience makes me so happy everytime I think about it or even when I'm feeling negative about dancing. so maybe ignoring them or looking like you are works??? =) imma put it to use more often and see how it goes.

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    Yeah, it's the sort of 'notice me' vibe that you can send off even when you're pretending you don't even know he exists! That's why posture is important, as well as having your body directed in his line of sight. So when he peeks over, he has a good silhouette of you and thinks you're not aware of him checking you out.

    'Posing' is very effective, and if he catches you, you can wink and smile at him as if you two have just shared an inside joke. That usually gives guys the courage to mosey on over!
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    I have used the ow my feet hurt can i sit there routine a few times. It does get you dances when there are bundle of girls and less guys. Also I have been tipped well because I become "down to earth" to the guys that are just there for a few drinks instead of the dances.

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    Miley, that was so smart. Custy's are so used to having to (in some cases) fight off the requests. You're approach would throw anyone for a loop. Love it!


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    hehe...I usually don't sit on the floor alone cos I don't want management thinking I'm lazy...but one time I did, and made a $300 room sale off of it. Some guy came up and was like "whatcha doing?"

    "watching the game" (Raiders game on the big screen, and I was just exhausted that night)

    "wanna get a room?"

    "ok"

    Wouldn't expect that to work on a regular basis, but that one time was the easiest money I've ever made!

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