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    I am really jealous and resentful right now. I just got back from work, it was amateur night. There was a girl there who was auditioning and doing amateur night. She is going to the same school I am going to go to. We were having friendly conversation about school and dancing and I said something along the lines of.....that school is so expensive, but I've been wanting to go there forever and now that I dance I can afford it! and she says something along the lines of "wow you're paying for it yourself?" and i go... yeah my financial aid didn't exactly cover everything- why did yours?" and she says," well... I guess I just come from a privileged family, so they're paying for it". and then she goes on stage to do amateur night, wins (it was against one other girl who was ugly) and leaves because she has class in the morning, class that I would be going to if I didn't have to fucking pay for everything myself ( I WANTED to start in august like everyone else). Then I talked to the manager and she said that the girl said she just wanted to dance for "shopping money"..

    WTF. WHY FUCKING GET NAKED FOR STRANGERS and put yourself through endless bullshit and physical and emotional stress for shopping money if your fucking mommy and daddy are paying for your college tuition, rent, food, car..... god knows what else. Isn't that enough???? Why can't she just be grateful that her parents are funding her life rather than wanting more and stripping when her parents are paying for school???

    god. It's just not fair. If my parents would pay for my school and rent and food and car I wouldn't dance, I would just get a normal part-time job and be a normal college student. What is wrong with people?????????? Is it just this town???WTF

    My parents live in a freaking huge house and have more than enough money to help me out and could pay for my tuition/rent/food/car if they wanted to....but they don't. They don't give me ANYTHING. If it were a real emergency and I really needed money, I MIGHT ask them for a LOAN, but I don't remember the last time I asked for money.

    so.....end rant. I dont see why anyone would do this if they don't need to.
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    because they're greedy. but i've read a couple of your posts and was actually going to go to the school you're at now, but it was too expensive. my impression was that it was a bunch of spoiled orange county kids (which is where i'm from) who have a disgusting sense of entitlement. in high school, i drove really really shitty old car and was happy, but i had friends who were upset that their parents wouldn't buy them a new bmw (even though one promised her one if she got her gpa over 3.0!!!!)

    but seriously, what a shallow girl...wanting extra money to just shop? i highly doubt she's deprived of nice clothes in the first place.

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    Guh? So I shouldn't strip because I don't 'need' to? Strippng is for the needy? I thought it was a job...

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    ^^Im sorry but seriously what gives you girls the right to decide who's reasons for dancing are good and whose aren't?! . It pisses me the fuck off when customers tell me that i shouldn't be dancing b/c I don't have kids and as far as i'm concerned this is the same attitude. It does NOT make her greedy that she is dancing for shopping money, it makes her fucking smart and YOU SOUND STUPID for judging her. Gaawd "it's noooot fair". I think she's pretty awesome for working when she doesn't have to. Maybe you are just jealous and resentful that monetarily her life is easier than yours but at the end of the day she has just as much right as you do to be a dancer.

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    yeah it is a job, but why get a job as involved and demanding as dancing when you don't NEED to be making 1K/week??
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    ^^because some people actually strive to be better , that's why .

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    keira, those were my thoughts exactly.

    ETA: maybe i'm jaded because i work in a high contact club and in an area that's shitty, money-wise. maybe, that's influencing my opinion of someone who is working to shop.

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    idk.... I just see it like this: If her parents are paying for her tuition/rent/food/car/bills, then it's pretty much like she's living under their roof. It's like she doesn't appreciate what she has.... that is how I feel. It's kind of disrespectful to go be a stripper and make money when your parents are funding your life- it's like cheating. Especially when she could use the money she makes dancing to pay for her own tuition/rent/etc....it's unfair. I'm in a really resentful mood right now in case you guys can't tell.

    I'm just sick of dancing and sick of having to make my own money when it seems like EVERYONE around me is just getting a free fucking ride through college and here I am, up until 4 am working my ass off and not even in school yet because i have to save up for it.
    "Life and death, energy and peace. If I stop today it was still worth it. Even the terrible mistakes that I made and would have unmade if I could. The pains that have burned me and scarred my soul, it was worth it, for having been allowed to walk where I've walked, which was to hell on earth, heaven on earth, back again, into, under, far in between, through it, in it, and above."

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubyredlipsss View Post
    keira, those were my thoughts exactly.

    ETA: maybe i'm jaded because i work in a high contact club and in an area that's shitty, money-wise. maybe, that's influencing my opinion of someone who is working to shop.
    the club I'm at is pretty high contact actually.... the highest contact I've ever danced at anyways.. no extras that I've seen, but customers expect grinding, both feet can be off the floor, and the dancer sets her own boundaries in regards to how much touching is allowed- a lot of girls let guys touch everywhere but their boob and crotch, and some let guys sneak touches there too.
    "Life and death, energy and peace. If I stop today it was still worth it. Even the terrible mistakes that I made and would have unmade if I could. The pains that have burned me and scarred my soul, it was worth it, for having been allowed to walk where I've walked, which was to hell on earth, heaven on earth, back again, into, under, far in between, through it, in it, and above."

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    I danced w/ a girl that went to a private prestigous school. Her parents paid for everything and gave her shopping money. She stripped for ..more shopping money. she was gorgeous and a pleasure to work with.

    I also worked w/ a beautiful fake breasted blonde who was married to a rich guy and came in one day a week to just prance around on stage for the attention, and because she "gets bored sometimes". She openly told custies and dancers her situation. Everyone hated her.

    I try not to ponder priveleged situations too much....they just dont relate too me and getting mad or jealous wont change it. Yeah. I tried not to think about it.

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    Yeah, I don't get it. If she wants to strip for shopping money, or to pay bills what does it matter? How does that make her shallow? Maybe she likes stripping and doesn't see it as great emotional stress. Its not her fault that she doesn't have to pay for college. Girls with a couple kids sometimes talk shit about girls with no children and how they don't "need" it as much because they are single. I could get by on just my hubby's income if I wanted to, but I like having nice things and being able to take my family on vacations and such. Granted, we would have to live a very frugal existence on just my hubby's income(like no cable, eating out ever, buying all the kids clothes at second hand shops, having 1 car, clipping coupons etc) but I wouldn't want someone calling me shallow b/c of it. Maybe she doesn't want to go running to mommy and daddy everytime she wants something at the mall. Maybe she doesn't want her parents saying "what do you need money for," "I just gave you money last week," and so on. I was in your situation previous to meeting my hubby, but I never looked down upon other girl's because I felt like they didn't need it.
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    I've felt how you feel before...but it's not a fairness thing. Suck it up, princess: bitching and moaning doesn't change it, or make it easier.


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    sounds exactly like my club. and the guys can be reaaaaally cheap! like tonight, four guys sat at the tip rail, tipped one dollar each and did this to about four other dancers!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by keira0304 View Post
    and she says," well... I guess I just come from a privileged family, so they're paying for it".
    ASS!

    Seriously...I have no problem with girls dancing for whatever reason they have. Hey, if you don't need the money, then good for you. I danced in college when I didn't "need to", but I didn't have a snotty attitude towards anyone who was working to support themselves.

    But to SAY something so obnoxious and stuck-up? Hell no. Ask your "privileged family" to buy you some MANNERS.

    What is wrong with people?????????? Is it just this town???
    I really think it is. I feel like I live on another planet here; I've never met so many self-important, condescending, entitlement-minded trust-fund babies in one place in my life. I really hate the pervasive air of stuck up obnoxiousness that seems to be everywhere here, and I am in the process of moving and transferring schools b/c this is clearly not the place for me. Time for a new game plan.

    My parents live in a freaking huge house and have more than enough money to help me out and could pay for my tuition/rent/food/car if they wanted to....but they don't.
    same here. But hey, we can make it and succeed on our own. Focusing on what other people have that you lack is only going to bring you down. Do I wish I had the support that some others do? HELL yes. But I don't, so what's the use thinking about it. Focus on your capabilities, strengths and what you can do to make your dreams come true, with or without anyone else's support. You've got everything you need within you.
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    ^^Im sorry but seriously what gives you girls the right to decide who's reasons for dancing are good and whose aren't?! . It pisses me the fuck off when customers tell me that i shouldn't be dancing b/c I don't have kids and as far as i'm concerned this is the same attitude. It does NOT make her greedy that she is dancing for shopping money, it makes her fucking smart and YOU SOUND STUPID for judging her. Gaawd "it's noooot fair". I think she's pretty awesome for working when she doesn't have to. Maybe you are just jealous and resentful that monetarily her life is easier than yours but at the end of the day she has just as much right as you do to be a dancer.
    Yeh fuck that. I cant believe Im reading this complete rubbish. Greedy? Seriously GTF over it. Stop being jealous and hating those who have it better than you. Guess what? That's life and it isn't always fair. Some of us don't hate the job and would still do it regardless.
    Not to mention what I do with the money I make stripping is no other bitches business but mine.
    She doesn't need to make $1K a week? What the fuck do u know about what someone else needs? Just coz u don't like dancing and feel resentlful for having to do it when you don't want to doesn't mean u can project this shitty attitude onto everyone else.
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    ok to clarify, coming from the area i was raised in, the girl keira is talking about sounds a lot like the girls i grew up with. i'm not talking about living comfortably or even having nice things. i'm talking about girls who have multiple LV purses and complain that their dads cut their credit cards off. i guess that's what came to mind when i read the post. i hope that clarifies it...didn't mean to offend anyone by thinking i was using a blanket term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keira0304 View Post
    It's kind of disrespectful to go be a stripper and make money when your parents are funding your life- it's like cheating.
    disrespectful to who exactly? um...no. Would you still think she was disrespectful if she had a full time job as a salesgirl? Seriously I wanna know b/c if you answer no to that question, maybe you should find another job.

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    I can understand the jealousy part. But she has every right to be a stripper as much as you do.

    I do think her comment about being from a 'privileged' family was a bit snooty...

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    disrespectful to her parents who are paying for her entire existence.
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    Could be a case of mommy and daddy have sheltered her and she's looking for "cheap thrills." Something they wouldn't approve of. And/or feels the need to get approval through the customers of how pretty she is. She won't last long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanGirl View Post
    disrespectful to who exactly? um...no. Would you still think she was disrespectful if she had a full time job as a salesgirl? Seriously I wanna know b/c if you answer yes to that question, maybe you should find another job.
    No shit.
    So this job is only "respectable" if you have a tough life? She obviously has a problem with being a stripper herself. Seriously stop being jealous it sounds pathetic.
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    no, that's not what I said. She's being disrespectful to her parents by being UNGRATEFUL for what she has and not appreciating what she does have. The school she goes to is freaking EXPENSIVE and the area i live in is expensive and she doesn't have to do anything to live/study/eat/breathe and she doesn't appreciate it, obviously, because she wants to dance to buy clothes and purses and shit.
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    Stop feeling sorry for yourself. So you have to work to pay for college? Geez like what no one else has ever had to before?
    You are coming across as a jealous hater and what you are typing is just stupid. First it's the no one hits on me post now this??

    So what do u want people to have to get means tested in order to dance? Like you have to be below the poverty line and have X amount of debt to dance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by keira0304 View Post
    no, that's not what I said. She's being disrespectful to her parents by being UNGRATEFUL for what she has and not appreciating what she does have. The school she goes to is freaking EXPENSIVE and the area i live in is expensive and she doesn't have to do anything to live/study/eat/breathe and she doesn't appreciate it, obviously, because she wants to dance to buy clothes and purses and shit.
    Maybe she just wants to make her own spending money so she doesn't have to crawl to Mommy and Daddy for anything other then tuition, rent and groceries. So what if her parents pay her way through life? Maybe she wants to have her own spending money and actually earn something for herself other then having her parents hand over her spending money on top of everything else.

    Do dancers need to fill out a 'are you desperate enough to dance' application now?

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    idk.... I just see it like this: If her parents are paying for her tuition/rent/food/car/bills, then it's pretty much like she's living under their roof. It's like she doesn't appreciate what she has.... that is how I feel. It's kind of disrespectful to go be a stripper and make money when your parents are funding your life- it's like cheating. Especially when she could use the money she makes dancing to pay for her own tuition/rent/etc....it's unfair. I'm in a really resentful mood right now in case you guys can't tell.

    I'm just sick of dancing and sick of having to make my own money when it seems like EVERYONE around me is just getting a free fucking ride through college and here I am, up until 4 am working my ass off and not even in school yet because i have to save up for it.
    Jeez you can't be serious?? If she had taken a job at McDonald's would you be whining? But then she doesn't deserve that either because she is taking a potential job from someone who "needs" it more than she does, and that person needs the McDonald job to pay bills and not to just shop at Abercrombie. Of course if you have parents that supply things for you then you are not worthy of a job and are just shallow. Yeah some people have it better than you, and some have it much, much worse. Thats life, thats the breaks. To pretty much call someone stupid, shallow, and unappreciative b/c there parents do a lot more for them is a lot extreme.
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