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    Default Prejudice against extra girls?

    I've been seeing a lot of this on SW. We use "taboo" words, like dirty, trashy, whore and so on. Then someone takes offense, or there's a moderator reprimand. Which, I don't so much mind untill it hits this close to home.

    To be honest, I went from a low contact club to a really dirty one. I never thought I could make it there. Not only do they allow bj/hj/fs, they only hire very hot girls. I never thought I would make 3 dollars, when a girl ten times cuter than me is offering so much more. But, 6 months in, I'm still making bank, and following my own rules. And I'm not really that cute. I never showed up there expecting to change the norm for customers, dancers or club. I just wanted to make my money and go home.

    But none of that is the point. I want this thread to be more personal. To really make girls ask themselves, "Am I prejudice?" The thing is, I see over half my coworkers giving head, getting fingered on the floor, and the rest are doing everything I wouldn't even consider. And at the end of the day, are we both strippers? Am I judgemental to not make friends with a good chunk of them? After I notice a girl do something (I can't call it an extra, it's just the norm here) and I strongly dislike and avoid her, isn't that kinda wrong? Aren't I being narrow minded?

    Prostitution is illegal in my state. These girls are engaging in it.
    They may be selling Gucci high heels, and I'm selling flip flops. We're in the same industry. Do I have any right to resent them offering a superior product when the goverment and the country (for the most part) look down on us both equally?

    Is there any reason for me to consider myself any different from girls offering a sexual service that I am to, albeit to a lesser degree?

    Why am I okay with hanging out with my old "low mileage" friends, and avoiding making new "high mileage" friends? Sure, Wendy gets naked and dances, but Lisa gets topless and lets guys touch her!! Where do I draw that line without knowing club rules, individual rules, and the girls thoughts on the matter? Or, what should be less important - my own thoughts on the matter.

    I guess I'm just drunk and musing. And wondering who else feels bad for missing out on potentially fun girls due to what they do. Which is close, but not quite the same as what we do.

    Just wanted to know who either deals with it and makes nice vs. actively fights it.

    Silly drunken thread.

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    I don't fight the extra girls anymore. I don't consider a girl who gives full sex, BJ's, HJ's, or lets guys finger her vagina as a stripper, so therefore we are not in the same "boat." If you do these things, then you are a prostitute. I have no problem with prostitutes, but I wish they would engage in their activities OTC. It is unfair to engage in these activities and risk the safety of everyone else. I didn't get into stripping to give BJ's and have sex w/strangers, so I don't understand these girls, nor would I speak to or hang out with girls that openly did extras in the club. I could never work in a place like this, because I would feel uncomfortable. All I can hope is that the girls that engage in extras are paid well for it. Girls that are selling sex for as much as a dance, or only a lil' more than a dance, is what pisses me off most. I consider a legit prostitute to be a smart businesswoman, so long as she is selling herself in a safe way, and is doing it because she wants to, as well as getting paid. If you are giving away full sex for $20 a song, then yeah you are a cheap stupid fucking whore, and I hate you and girls like this need to work on their sales skills (and/or their appearance), or get the hell off drugs, or get the fuck out of the club, if you can't sell anything w/o giving sex.
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    I have to admit it's hard to not be prejudiced against the extra girls but it's very irritating...I personally do not talk to the "extras" girls that much, I'm courteous, I'll play along but I don't agree with what they're doing. My opinion is just my own, I'll stay out of their way as long as they stay out of mine.

    Perhaps I'm a bit jaded or figure it's an endless issue of dealing with the extras girls, unfortunately no matter how clean your club can try to be they're everywhere.
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    When I returned to my home club after being gone a year there was a major extras girl there. She was so bad that I had heard about her at the other clubs I was at. She was very nice to me and funny to be around. After the first week i was back she got fired because she got caught giving a BJ. My first thought was "darn, I actually liked her". We had another girl after her that did extras, she was really sweet and we had some great convos (none about extras).

    I liked these women, just hated what they did in the club. I often said that I wished they were, mean, bitchy, whatever so I could hate them not their actions, which I kinda felt that I should because others did.

    I've so many girls get made, be hateful about extras girls. They spend so much time worrying about what they're doing that they (the complainers) don't make any $$ themselves.
    I don't really worry about extras girls at my club, they never last long and I wouldn't want to dance for their customers anyway. and I've come to the conclusion that the extra girls are going to always be around in almost every club.

    I do agree with hot4blackchick, I don't like girls that just give extras for the same price as a dance, if you're going to be a whore, at least be a smart whore.

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    I don't have much experience, but I can tell you how I felt when I witnessed a BJ going on in a booth. I felt like it made the whole CLUB look like shit - and reflected poorly on us as dancers.....I felt sick inside, knowing that that was happening right in front of me, in this outwardly appearing "upscale" club (the whole reason I chose it). Nieve to the strip club world, I suppose.

    IMO, most guys are going to go for the $60 blowjob if they can get it, instead of 3 dances for $100 from a clean dancer.

    If these "ladies" wish to participate in prostitution, I feel they would be better off getting into escorting, either with an agency or indepedantly, instead of using the club and their job as a dancer, as a front. Because honestly, that's what it is when you are doing HJ's BJ's, and FS in the club. They would be better off (financially) escorting outside the club anyhow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txchick008 View Post
    IMO, most guys are going to go for the $60 blowjob if they can get it, instead of 3 dances for $100 from a clean dancer.

    If these "ladies" wish to participate in prostitution, I feel they would be better off getting into escorting, either with an agency or indepedantly, instead of using the club and their job as a dancer, as a front. Because honestly, that's what it is when you are doing HJ's BJ's, and FS in the club. They would be better off (financially) escorting outside the club anyhow.
    Girl, you took those words right out of my mouth.

    Me and my closest friend at my club were talking about that. No, I'm not prejudice against extra girls because its their body and if they want to have sex for it or do whatever, then so be it. But it does piss me off as well as the other good girls who DON'T do that. Why? Just like in my thread yesterday, 2 of my custies went to the extras girls, and now they're with them...so I'm losing out on $$$. Am I not supposed to be mad at that???

    Like I said, I really don't give 2 shits about what they do with their body, but when it comes to a situation where my custies are being taken from me, then it becomes a problem.

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    I feel very badly for extras girls and I hope I never have to do such things for money. I'm all for prostitution in a controlled brothel where it's legal and safe, but not in the club. At the very least, you could get a police record. I don't think a happy, healthy woman would do it.

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    its not so much that we dislike extras girls its that we dont think the place for it is a strip club. go be a escort if you want to do that shit.

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    I'm not okay with it, but I don't know that I'd go so far as to call it a prejudice. Unless I'm gonna call my feelings towards drunk driving, rape, and stealing prejudices as well. I think if a girl wants to sell pussy that's totally fine, but she needs to do it OTC where she's not going to risk everyone else's jobs not to mention money.

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    I am extremely prejudiced against extras girls. I have no problem with prostitution and am all for it being legalized so that girls can work in a clean and safe environment. However, I am not ok with it going on in my club. Extras girls make the club look bad and they make me look bad. People that I know and my boyfriend knows come into my club and other clubs in the area that I've worked in. If they see girls doing extras they will assume I do the same. Not only that but they are literally taking money out of my pocket. If your willing to do extras in a club why not go and work as an escort and earn proper money for doing what your doing? Some nights they make my job so much harder, all night I get guys saying "What are you going to do in your dance for me?" I'm going to dance asshole. If these girls weren't handing out extras left right and center it would make my job a hell of a lot easier.



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    ^^^ not only are 'extras' girls taking money out of the pockets of 'clean' dancers, but they are also exposing 'clean' dancers to elevated risk of a bogus bust. Ultimately, if a whole bunch of dancers are swept up in a club bust, the cops / judge and jury of local yokels aren't likely to differentiate between a high contact lap dance and 'extras' having taken place.

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    As for your musing on whether they are worthwhile as friends, it all depends on what you require of your friends. I have found that extras girls are generally too out there emotionally and psychologically for me to relate. As illogical as their conduct in the club is so too is their conduct in real life. And frankly, friendly or not I know their conduct is making it harder to make money safely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hot4ablackchick View Post
    I don't fight the extra girls anymore. I don't consider a girl who gives full sex, BJ's, HJ's, or lets guys finger her vagina as a stripper, so therefore we are not in the same "boat." If you do these things, then you are a prostitute. I have no problem with prostitutes, but I wish they would engage in their activities OTC. It is unfair to engage in these activities and risk the safety of everyone else. I didn't get into stripping to give BJ's and have sex w/strangers, so I don't understand these girls, nor would I speak to or hang out with girls that openly did extras in the club. I could never work in a place like this, because I would feel uncomfortable. All I can hope is that the girls that engage in extras are paid well for it. Girls that are selling sex for as much as a dance, or only a lil' more than a dance, is what pisses me off most. I consider a legit prostitute to be a smart businesswoman, so long as she is selling herself in a safe way, and is doing it because she wants to, as well as getting paid. If you are giving away full sex for $20 a song, then yeah you are a cheap stupid fucking whore, and I hate you and girls like this need to work on their sales skills (and/or their appearance), or get the hell off drugs, or get the fuck out of the club, if you can't sell anything w/o giving sex.
    I can't even add to this, you said exactly what I wanted to say.

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    I don't mind about the sales aspect, I mean, I'm not an extras girl, I'm rather prude... But I could sell refridgerators to eskimos, so whatever the other girls are doing is whatever to me.

    I'm prejudiced against them for the reasons that Melonie stated. I've been in club busts before because other girls can't keep their panties on and it's fucking obnoxious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i.breathe.in View Post
    its not so much that we dislike extras girls its that we dont think the place for it is a strip club. go be a escort if you want to do that shit.
    Agreed. That and I have been in raids because of girls prostituting while dancing and it's beyond irritating.

    I could care less what anyone does on their own time but when it messes with my income you better believe it becomes a problem. It is like that in any job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ^^^ not only are 'extras' girls taking money out of the pockets of 'clean' dancers, but they are also exposing 'clean' dancers to elevated risk of a bogus bust. Ultimately, if a whole bunch of dancers are swept up in a club bust, the cops / judge and jury of local yokels aren't likely to differentiate between a high contact lap dance and 'extras' having taken place.
    Exactly! I don't want to go to jail. If some girl is doing what she shouldn't, I want her OUT. I don't care how nice she is. It's more than 'dirty' it's disrespectful to the rest of us and shows a lack of care for anyone's safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ^^^ not only are 'extras' girls taking money out of the pockets of 'clean' dancers, but they are also exposing 'clean' dancers to elevated risk of a bogus bust. Ultimately, if a whole bunch of dancers are swept up in a club bust, the cops / judge and jury of local yokels aren't likely to differentiate between a high contact lap dance and 'extras' having taken place.

    This is my problem right here. LE doesn't care whom did what, in the eyes of the law - if one does they ALL do. Also there's the elevated risk of disease - you can't always go around wiping or cleaning everything you touch at work with sanitiser. It's just not physically possible!

    Also the women who call themselves "dancers" and do "extras" do NOT CARE about the above stated issues. That makes them dangerous, like get somebody else hurt dangerous. If they don't care that their actions are affecting others, exactly what ELSE do they not care about.

    It's a lot to consider and think about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i.breathe.in View Post
    its not so much that we dislike extras girls its that we dont think the place for it is a strip club. go be a escort if you want to do that shit.
    My feelings exactly. We may learn to deal with extras girls and work around them. Some of us may even be able to separate their turning tricks from who they are as people but I don't know if we should just embrace them with welcome arms into our clubs. They have their own venues to work in such as brothels or to get customers from such as the internet. I don't mind too much the ones who keep fucking for money OTC but if they are working in the club I just wish they would actually strip while instead of turn tricks. Is that really asking too much? I don’t think so.

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    I understand that there's an issue with it in the club. But yeah, I hate the hypocrisy of sex workers hatin' on other sex workers, be it cam, escorts, etc. It's not the same thing but...c'mon.

    I knew an escort that told me all dancers were coke-whores. I was all...uh, people say that about prostitutes....Lulz.

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    from what i've seen on here though, most girls here ARE cool about sex workers, hookers, call girls, that kind of shit.

    Extra girls do not = call girls.

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    Girls who pose as dancers and perform prostitution acts in the club are ruining the business for us dancers. It has nothing to do with "prejudice", it's just a fact. It has nothing to do with the sex worker title, either, as I believe all women should be given basic rights and respect regardless of their job. The fact, dancers can't compete with prostitutes if the prostitutes are charging the same price as the dancer. It's pretty basic business. I don't understand the argument. And, I'd love to hear a GOOD argument as to those who keep saying it's okay to meet customers OTC for money-it doesn't affect anyone, nor are they prostitutes? I've got to be missing something here...no judgement, just pure business/facts is where I'm coming from.

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    Yeah, extras=whole different ballpark. I meant more that I find it lulz worthy when sex workers are actually prejudiced towards other faucets of the industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i.breathe.in View Post
    its not so much that we dislike extras girls its that we dont think the place for it is a strip club. go be a escort if you want to do that shit.
    i totally agree...theres one that i know of at my club and EVERYONE talks about it. i saw a guy last night hand her 500.00 in 20's and she didn't stay all night, left early for some bullshit reason. she's nice to everyone, doesn't say much but i dont tolerate it. i make an effort to not talk to her since it pisses me off so bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post

    To be honest, I went from a low contact club to a really dirty one. I never thought I could make it there. Not only do they allow bj/hj/fs, they only hire very hot girls. I never thought I would make 3 dollars, when a girl ten times cuter than me is offering so much more. But, 6 months in, I'm still making bank, and following my own rules. And I'm not really that cute. I never showed up there expecting to change the norm for customers, dancers or club. I just wanted to make my money and go home.
    Honestly I didn't pay much attention to the rest of your post after I read this. ..was just thinking HELL YEAH! Good for you for being able to bank and not letting that environment frustrate or discourage you! I'm so proud of you. So many people would just give up and mindfuck themselves into believing they'll never make money with that kind of competition, but you're rocking it.

    I've been in clubs like that before too...but I truly didn't realize that things like that were the norm (esp in CR) until I'd been there for a year! Because I was focused on making my own money, I didn't even realize it was a total extras free-for-all until about a year into it. And even after that, it never affected my money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helle View Post
    from what i've seen on here though, most girls here ARE cool about sex workers, hookers, call girls, that kind of shit.

    Extra girls do not = call girls.
    ???????

    If it walks like a duck talks like a duck chances are its a duck.

    I dont care if you sell a blowjob in the back alley or in a strip club - you just sold your sexual services ergo you are a prostitute.
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