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    Quote Originally Posted by Zia_Abq View Post
    She was for it for a long time though. Plus she got more earmarks for her State than any other.http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...earmarks_N.htm

    http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_p...o-nowhere.aspx
    How did she get any earmarks ? She NEVER served in the Congress ! That was Stevens, Murkowski and Young; all of whom are Palin's political enemies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zia_Abq View Post
    Another things I have learned about this is that McCain has only met her once. How do you come to trust someone and feel they would be able to fill your shoes as the leader of the free world after meeting them once? It's just more proof to me that this is a stunt.

    Also here is what my 68 year old yet very hip and politically savvy Mother had to say about McCain VP choice in an email to me last night.

    "Does John McCain really think the women of this country are so stupid? Is this just a political game or a really desperate move? Anyway, as an intelligent female voter, I am insulted and she , Gov. Palin, should be too- to be used like that. I just lost whatever respect I had for John Mccain. God knows we cannot afford to play such games with the future of this country. But there is always that danger, look what voters did in 2004."
    By that logic, black people should think twice before voting for Obama.

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    ^^^ What 's the relevance between Black people voting for Obama and what she posted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    How did she get any earmarks ? She NEVER served in the Congress ! That was Stevens, Murkowski and Young; all of whom are Palin's political enemies.
    http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/...58953362.shtml

    Article by her Special Counsel Katz about reducing earmark requests from 54 to 31

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    The Alaskan pipeline has not had the feared effects. That is correct.

    To say there have been no effects is incorrect. There has been environmental damage.

    Things run on a balance. If you feel that the there is any damage is not worth the supply of oil and natural gas, you'll be against pipelines. If you believe that environmental damage is inconsequential in the quest to feed our oil consumption, you'll want to plop down rigs and pipelines where most convenient.

    If you believe that the oil supply comes with risk and consequences, then the question comes whether you accept those risks and consequences as presented or advocate minimizing them. That's the area of the spectrum where I fall. Given the experience, I'm not opposed to piping all that stuff overland, as long as stringent requirements are opposed on construction, repair, maintenance, and upkeep. Those tracks through the tundra will still be there long after the oil and natural gas supplies are depleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zia_Abq
    Another things I have learned about this is that McCain has only met her once. How do you come to trust someone and feel they would be able to fill your shoes as the leader of the free world after meeting them once? It's just more proof to me that this is a stunt.

    Also here is what my 68 year old yet very hip and politically savvy Mother had to say about McCain VP choice in an email to me last night.

    "Does John McCain really think the women of this country are so stupid? Is this just a political game or a really desperate move? Anyway, as an intelligent female voter, I am insulted and she , Gov. Palin, should be too- to be used like that. I just lost whatever respect I had for John Mccain. God knows we cannot afford to play such games with the future of this country. But there is always that danger, look what voters did in 2004."
    Palin has over a 90% approval rating in Alaska. Male or female, not many Republicans can pull that off in times like these.

    Also:

    "Palin is now viewed favorably by 48% of women. That figure includes 80% of Republican women, 23% of Democratic women, and 61% of women not affiliated with either major party. "

    And this is before we know much about her. She's doing pretty well for a person most of the country never heard of until 2 days ago.

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    These women should be asked if they view being forced to bring all pregnancies to term instead of having a choice favorably or unfavorably. They should be asked if they view turning public schools into christian madrasahs favorably or unfavorably.
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    Well, obviously the dems will try to dig up what they can on her just like the RNC and it's support groups have tried to mine all the Obama/Biden dirt. And if already not unleashed I'm sure the hounds of hell (the web Obamablognuts and internet warriors) are straining at the gate.

    It will be fun. Are there any VP debates planned that you know of?

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    ^^^ yes there is one VP debate scheduled with national news coverage

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    I believe Oct 2 is the VP debate. I'm really fascinated by this choice and how it will play out. It'll be interesting to watch how info is disseminated about someone the press knows little about. Alaskans seem to be excited more about the fact one of their own has been put in such a conspicuous position and what it could mean for their state.

    Couple of articles regarding local reaction.

    http://www.adn.com/news/politics/story/510249.html

    http://www.adn.com/news/politics/story/510220.html

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    Sarah Palin is a joke but i guess Mccain knows he has to bow down to the Religious Right to have the slightest chance to win.

    I pretty much find the entire Republican Party a Joke.

    Who is Sarah Palin? Here's some basic background:


    She was elected Alaska's governor a little over a year and a half ago. Her previous office was mayor of Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage. She has no foreign policy experience.1

    Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest.2

    She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000. 3

    Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools.4

    She's doesn't think humans are the cause of climate change.5

    She's solidly in line with John McCain's "Big Oil first" energy policy. She's pushed hard for more oil drilling and says renewables won't be ready for years. She also sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as an endangered species—she was worried it would interfere with more oil drilling in Alaska.6
    How closely did John McCain vet this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a meeting. They spoke a second time, last Sunday, when he called her about being vice-president. Then he offered her the position.7
    This is information the American people need to see. Please take a moment to forward this email to your friends and family.

    We also asked Alaska MoveOn members what the rest of us should know about their governor. The response was striking. Here's a sample:

    She is really just a mayor from a small town outside Anchorage who has been a governor for only 1.5 years, and has ZERO national and international experience. I shudder to think that she could be the person taking that 3AM call on the White House hotline, and the one who could potentially be charged with leading the US in the volatile international scene that exists today. —Rose M., Fairbanks, AK

    She is VERY, VERY conservative, and far from perfect. She's a hunter and fisherwoman, but votes against the environment again and again. She ran on ethics reform, but is currently under investigation for several charges involving hiring and firing of state officials. She has NO experience beyond Alaska. —Christine B., Denali Park, AK

    As an Alaskan and a feminist, I am beyond words at this announcement. Palin is not a feminist, and she is not the reformer she claims to be. —Karen L., Anchorage, AK

    Alaskans, collectively, are just as stunned as the rest of the nation. She is doing well running our State, but is totally inexperienced on the national level, and very much unequipped to run the nation, if it came to that. She is as far right as one can get, which has already been communicated on the news. In our office of thirty employees (dems, republicans, and nonpartisans), not one person feels she is ready for the V.P. position.—Sherry C., Anchorage, AK

    She's vehemently anti-choice and doesn't care about protecting our natural resources, even though she has worked as a fisherman. McCain chose her to pick up the Hillary voters, but Palin is no Hillary. —Marina L., Juneau, AK

    I think she's far too inexperienced to be in this position. I'm all for a woman in the White House, but not one who hasn't done anything to deserve it. There are far many other women who have worked their way up and have much more experience that would have been better choices. This is a patronizing decision on John McCain's part- and insulting to females everywhere that he would assume he'll get our vote by putting "A Woman" in that position.—Jennifer M., Anchorage, AK

    So Governor Palin is a staunch anti-choice religious conservative. She's a global warming denier who shares John McCain's commitment to Big Oil. And she's dramatically inexperienced.

    In picking Sarah Palin, John McCain has made the religious right very happy. And he's made a very dangerous decision for our country.

    In the next few days, many Americans will be wondering what McCain's vice-presidential choice means. Please pass this information along to your friends and family.

    Thanks for all you do.

    –Ilyse, Noah, Justin, Karin and the rest of the team

    Sources:


    1. "Sarah Palin," Wikipedia, Accessed August 29, 2008
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

    2. "McCain Selects Anti-Choice Sarah Palin as Running Mate," NARAL Pro-Choice America, August 29, 2008
    http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17515&id=1...07-gGgElUx&t=1

    3. "Sarah Palin, Buchananite," The Nation, August 29, 2008
    http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17736&id=1...07-gGgElUx&t=2


    4. "'Creation science' enters the race," Anchorage Daily News, October 27, 2006
    http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17737&id=1...07-gGgElUx&t=3

    5. "Palin buys climate denial PR spin—ignores science," Huffington Post, August 29, 2008
    http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17517&id=1...07-gGgElUx&t=4

    6. "McCain VP Pick Completes Shift to Bush Energy Policy," Sierra Club, August 29, 2008
    http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17518&id=1...07-gGgElUx&t=5

    "Choice of Palin Promises Failed Energy Policies of the Past," League of Conservation Voters, August 29, 2008
    http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17519&id=1...07-gGgElUx&t=6

    "Protecting polar bears gets in way of drilling for oil, says governor," The Times of London, May 23, 2008
    http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17520&id=1...07-gGgElUx&t=7

    7 "McCain met Palin once before yesterday," MSNBC, August 29, 2008
    http://www.moveon.org/r?r=21119&id=1...07-gGgElUx&t=8

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    ^^^ in the interest of fairness, it's good to see that the 10% of Alaskans who don't approve of Sarah Palin still have an outlet for their opinions ... MoveOn.org !

    Ultimately, the legacy of McCain's choice of Sarah Palin will play out at a national level. Again it doesn't matter what voters in California or New York or Alaska or Illinois or Georgia think of Palin, because the electoral votes from these states are already cast in stone. What WILL matter is Sarah Palin's effect on voters in 'swing' states like Ohio, Michigan, Nevada or Colorado and possibly 'flip' states like Pennsylvania, Iowa, or Wisconsin ... and it will take some time before that effect becomes known.



    ^^^ updated electoral map based on polling data through August 25th ^^^

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    Well, hell...I'm still laughing about John McCain's homes and his ability to "relate" to the nation of whiners he wants to run. "how many homes do you have?" His answer? "I'm not sure..." And the answer is 7 homes worth more than $15 million dollars.

    I'm not too keen on Palin. There is just something about her...and McCain that just aren't right.

    And, we don't need a Maverick in the White House. We just need someone who is actually going to run the country properly and improve the overall situation in the US.

    I really do not believe that it will be McCain/Palin.

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    ^^^ what state do you live / vote in ? Just wondering whether your opinion / vote will matter or not. I live in New York so I already know that my own opinion / vote will not matter !


    And, we don't need a Maverick in the White House. We just need someone who is actually going to run the country properly and improve the overall situation in the US.
    Actually I agree with your assessment. But our problem is how on earth do we actually get such a person on the november ballot ??? (translation - there aren't any JFK's or Ronald Reagans on this year's ballot)

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    I live in Illinois.

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    ^^^ then your vote doesn't matter either, since Obama's home state is a solid lock re electoral votes for Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zia_Abq View Post
    Come on now, you know that isn’t true. He just doesn’t have an energy plan that you republicans like, that’s all.
    Blah blah blah CHANGE, blah blah blah is ALL I hear outta Obama's mouth.

    What a damn fine plan! I will go vote for the idiot today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zia_Abq View Post
    LMFAO! Dan Quayle is hardly a good example. Remember he couldn’t even spell a simple word such as tomato. Quayle was probably encouraged to play golf instead of work as a safety precaution

    Also I wasn’t saying she was a stupid woman just that she openly admitted on national tv that she doesn’t know the first thing about being a VP. I expect that a potential VP should AT LEAST know the technical basics such as presiding over the Senate. But like I said before that is apparently too much to ask from the GOP.
    Obviously the woman meant it as "What does the VP do each day?". Can you answer that question? Quayle played golf, Gore was busy "creating the internet", Cheney apparently spends his time hunting. Your average middle schooler can probably tell you that the Vice President is offically in charge of presiding of the Senate, so if your suggesting that she didn't know that, then yes you are saying that she is stupid.

    But since you couldn't even understand what the woman meant, I think you should reevaluate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jester214 View Post
    Cheney apparently spends his time hunting.
    Maybe he should do some time in Iraq and do his hunting there. Although I'm hoping he's a better shot now than the last time.

    Or maybe McCain should...you know...since it's so peaceful and all there now.


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    ^^^I hate to get off topic, but I've always wondered, what would have happened if someone had accidentally shot Cheney that day. Would they have gotten shot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess View Post
    I'm not too keen on Palin. There is just something about her...and McCain that just aren't right.
    I think a brit on BBC said it best, there are soooo many jokes you can make about an old-man getting a young woman....

    its the politcal version of Anna Nicole Smith

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    its the political version of Anna Nicole Smith
    based on the attention span and area of interest of some American voters, and the TV ratings that the Anna Nicole news story consistently racked up, perhaps McCain's back room advisors aren't so dumb after all !!!


    What a damn fine plan! I will go vote for the idiot today!
    Being from Kentucky, your vote doesn't really matter either ... since Kentucky's conservative voter percentage guarantees that McCain will receive all of Kentucky's 8 electoral votes


    "Does John McCain really think the women of this country are so stupid? Is this just a political game or a really desperate move? Anyway, as an intelligent female voter, I am insulted and she , Gov. Palin, should be too- to be used like that

    By that logic, black people should think twice before voting for Obama

    What 's the relevance between Black people voting for Obama and what she posted?
    Hey, I'm politically incorrect enough to stop this point from falling through the cracks ...

    According to a Washington Post - ABC News national poll, Obama can expect to receive 95% of the votes cast by black American voters. The rather obvious conclusion is that to achieve this monolithic 95% share, black American voters are choosing to cast their votes on the basis of race. Comments about women voters being stupid for choosing to vote for a candidate on the basis that she is a woman has some relevance in regard to black voters choosing to vote for a candidate on the basis that he is black.

    Of course there are a few researchers out there that point out an inconvenient truth in regard to Obama's actual family tree ..

    (snip)"Mr. Obama is 50% Caucasian, that from his mother. What those who want Mr. Obama to write history by becoming “America’s first African-American president” ignore is that his father was ethnically Arabic, with only 1 relative ethnically African Negro - a maternal great-grandparent (Sen. Obama’s great-great grandparent, thus the 6.25% ethnic contribution to the senator’s ethnic composition.)."(snip)

    (snip)"Mr. Obama is not legally African-American. It is impossible for him to be, in truth, America’s first African-American president.

    Federal law requires that to claim a minority status, you must be at least 1/8 of the descriptor, You must be at least 12.5% of the racial component you claim for minority status. Mr. Obama, claiming to be African-American, is half the legal threshold."(snip)

    The article goes on to point out that Barack Obama can legally claim to be an Arab, based on the 43.5% Arab contribution from his father's side of the family.





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    what, no Arab => terrorist tie-in, or is that coming up?

    also, so then McCain's claim to be a maverick is false, if he is consistent agrees with George W 90% of the time?
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    I didn't know there were that many Arabs out of Alego, Kenya.



    The young Barack Obama and his father. Arab? Really?

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    ^^^ Lol!

    Quote Originally Posted by kitana View Post
    Blah blah blah CHANGE, blah blah blah is ALL I hear outta Obama's mouth.

    What a damn fine plan! I will go vote for the idiot today!
    I'll admit his speeches tend to suck donkey nuts, but you should read his books. He has a great outlook, even though he might be a bullshit artist politician just like all the rest of them.

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