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    I've been supporting the efforts of the dancers in my geographic region for several years now....and reading many of the dancer's posts in these forums....and I feel compelled to ask a question based on my observations:

    Do the dancers who participate on this site consider themselves, (casting aside any false modesty) , to pretty much represent the most intelligent girls working in their respective clubs?

    Because I have to tell ya' ladies, rarely do I happen across a dancer in any of the clubs I visit who I would assess as being able to generate the sort of rational, logical, eloquent and often bitingly-funny comments that I read here. I certainly talk to a number of polite, focused, and pleasant entertainers, but very few who exhibit the razor wits that I see on SW. Do you find that you have to subdue your intelligence to avoid confusing or intimidating our sorry asses? Does displaying your mental assets not increase your income enough to bother? Am I frequenting only clubs that have a strict IQ upper-limitation policy?

    Anyway...sincere question.
    If this has already been covered in another thread, please direct me.
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    Most likely. If we're here we consider - or used to- stripping a career. Not just a job, not just fun, but our buisness. And we network with other dancers and customers to share tips and tricks about the idustry.

    I'm not sure that a lot of dancers have that attitude, or veiw dancing quite like we do.

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    I unfortunately think that SW represents "la creme de la creme" or "the cream of the crop" I think it is in English.

    The reason, I believe, is that those of us who are serious enough about dancing to join a message board and participate actively, have to have some level of intelligence and maturity when it comes to the profession. I have a hard time picturing random girls on drugs searching the internet to find hustling advice and the like.

    I wouldn't necessarily consider myself one of the most intelligent girls at my club, although I know I'm intelligent because I scored in the top 2% of gifted testing in my school years. I think the difference between myself and the majority of girls at my club is that I have an education and they may not have had that opportunity. I have noticed that a lot of girls at my club had children very early in life which likely prevented them from going to college or university. However, they are also very intelligent girls.

    One of the things that surprised me the most when I started dancing was the lack of girls dancing through university. There are a few and I connect with them, but the majority seem to be single mothers. I can't imagine why more university students are not dancing because tuition is expensive and dancing is so flexible to work with your school schedule! However, on SW I am amazed at the number of women who are not just going to university, but pursuing graduate work and professional programs. I think it's great!

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    I know a lot of very smart girls whose strip club persona is a flaky ditz. I find that the typical custy doesn't want intellectual conversation so i just twirl my hair and act impressed.
    These days I like to count my money. I like to wash it delicately and iron it. Sometimes I dry it with some bounty to make it all nice and cuddly. I love my money... did I say that out loud?

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    Well, you know the stereotype about the caveman wanting a dumb fuck-hole to use, and feed his children. When stereotypes persist we have to ask, did they come into being because there is some truth to it and people perceive a pattern?

    I think so...and so in this case. It does seem a lot (the majority?) of men want a dumb fuck-hole. So it is not super surprising that many strippers play the part. It is what works with some customers (maybe the majority?)

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    That said, it is also not a job that requires a degree, and can provide good revenue if a woman has the looks, and/or is able to provide the sexual personality, neither of which requires intellect so much as it requires good emotional and biological sense of what turns men on. Even mentally unwell and damaged people often have sex... and sexual desires... so do animals... sex and sexual desire is very separable from intellect.

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    we also all have computers.

    That's a smaller percentage right there.

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    The way I see it, all SWers found this site... Which means they probably went looking for it. Obviously that says something about the level of eagerness to learn/improve upon what we are doing for a living. That says a lot about the intelligence level, if you ask me...

    But, yes, I do think I'm one of the more intelligent dancers at my club!

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    ^^^Well put, angelicat.

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    Well...it's hard to say. There are too many different types of intelligence out there to say whether or not we're the most intelligent.

    It sounds like you're talking about the kind of intelligence that is most commonly appreciated--i.e. "book smart." Clearly this type of forum (where steady access to computers and the internet is required) is going to attract a bunch of people with similar types of intelligence (and even lifestyles).

    Your question seemed to be more directed, though. Yes, I am one of the few college students at my club. So if someone were to drop a standardized test (written by the usual white male testing board) into the middle of the club, I don't think it's conceited to assume I'd score highly on it compared to the rest of the girls. Because it's what I do.

    But intelligence isn't some kind of litmus test (despite what we're raised to believe). It's a continuum. I know it sounds like I'm just being argumentative, but I mean what I'm saying. I've met a hell of a lot of girls who spoke "unintelligently" but who were emotionally/creatively/etc. more intelligent than I by far.

    ETA: I have definitely run across more than one girl who has dulled her wits in order to make more money in the club. I, on the other hand, can't do this (I'm not saying that this makes me morally superior or anything). In my experience, this seems to be appreciated. I approach customers who belong to the sort of demographic with whom I find it easy to converse (middle-aged white men), so I don't seem to lose out on much $$. If anything, I make money off of my book-smarts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    ...There are too many different types of intelligence out there to say whether or not we're the most intelligent...
    Good point. It is one simple word, four syllables to say, but no single word can really capture all of the varied and complex human things that people mean by intelligence. It is a simple question to ask, but once we look just a bit closer and ask what is really meant, an apparently obvious and simple question suddenly becomes a lot less clear.
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    ^^^

    Yeah, but you don't have to flaunt intelligence by talking about Iraq. I mean, it's usually pretty obvious (even in simple conversation) if someone is "well-read" or not (in the bookish sense). It's not like I go up to people all like "So, let's discuss the geopolitical ramifications of blah blah blah." (I know you didn't necessarily intend that comment to be directed towards me, but I didn't want to come across as a news-spewing tightass...lol)

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    I would say that the wise dancer would avoid the topics of religion and politics unless she wants to spend her time arguing instead of dancing. Would I tip someone who supported fervently a presidential candidate I detested? I doubt if I would enjoy the dance as much. Would I tip someone whosupported my candidte fervently? Not if I could tell it was BS.

    Besides, I go to the SC to take a break from the real world. So, let's discuss something fun if we are going to discuss anything.

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    I never act dumb or ditzy at the club and I make great money. I dont see the need to do it because customers can obviously tell I am articulate and intelligent. I do not get into lengthy conversations with customers because I'm really a wanna dance type girl.

    I think most of the girls at my club are fairly intelligent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear Martini View Post
    This ^^^. I have noticed most guys in the strip club want hot, horny, and quiet not small talk about work, education, politics, Iraq, etc.

    When I notice I'm blabbing to much about normal everyday things, the guys start shifting their attention elsewhere. I quickly switch back to what I like to call a "young, horny, energetic touchy-feely, whispering nympho", it works well too.
    On point right here

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    I see SW as a fair cross-section of what I see at the clubs - good hustlers, smart women, single-minded views, attention deficits, hopelessly self-deluded, frank-talkers, bullshitters, literal-minded, fuzzy-minded, sharp analysts, and mental drifters. But I do take the time to talk to women in clubs about things other than dancing and the club dynamics and sex.

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    I think the women of SW tend to be a lot more intelligent than the dancers I have worked with in the last ten years, about 2,000 all told.

    But the literacy factor alone pretty much guarantees this. The average literacy level in the USA is not very impressive. Even literate people tend to read trash bestsellers and schlocky stuff. I grew up learning to temper my conversation so that I would not put people off by my vocabulary, fields of interest, etc.

    And I would have to agree that the business directly stifles outward manifestations of unusually high intelligence. Sad but true. Most customers seem to be intimidated by women who might possibly be more mentally adept than they are.

    Here on SW you have an amazing number of people who are into some amazing subjects, which is probably why it is so addictive to those of us who are in the industry.
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    ^I've always said SW is the pure sweet cream skimmed off the top.

    The group is highly self-selective -- It's not just that you have to have a computer, you also have to know how to use it and how to keep it functioning, and, far more important, be attracted to forums that are essentially all about the written word. This site is largely a participatory exercise in collective writing.

    Because this is a dancer support site, SW attracts a cross-section of dancers who are intelligent, engaging, charming, social, outgoing and often compassionate; who can write, construct and defend an argument; engage, elaborate and explore controversial subjects and pretty much tear to shreds any poster (or position) that they happen to disagree with.

    There is nothing remarkable about these skills among women in general -- in fact, girls grow up in such a social environment -- one incomparably more complex than any SW thread, incidentally -- are usually more comfortable in such environments, mature faster than men in general and in social skills in particular; are vastly better with the written word and tend to look for collective solutions to problems.

    In fact, it would be far more remarkable if SW were anything other than this amazing repository of female intelligence, insight, knowledge, and charm. It's simply a side benefit that they are all about as blazingly hott as the center of an expanding thermonuclear blast.

    The "Wow, these chicks are really smart!" epiphanies are a by-product of some of the worse dancer stereotypes generalized to the entire dancer population, among them rampant illiteracy, drug abuse, lack of education, blah, blah, blah. It's not that such habits are completely absent in the dancer population, it's just that they are far from universal. And what we see here every day is refreshing evidence of that fact.

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    reminds me of that Chris Rock skit, where he's emulating a stripper doing a lap dance saying, "If I was you, I'd diversify my portfolio....and you know, ever since the end of the Cold War, I find NATO obsolete!"

    Not hot!

    Anyway, lots of guys appreciate a smart, witty conversation. But that's not how I close a sale! That's what boobs are for. When the money starts flowing, I can multi-task.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    Anyway, lots of guys appreciate a smart, witty conversation. But that's not how I close a sale! That's what boobs are for. When the money starts flowing, I can multi-task.
    How exactly do you close a sale with boobs? It appears you are saying that closing a sale with boobs is mutually exclusive to smart and witty conversation but I think I may have read this wrong. Can you elaborate on this?

    p.s. nice avatar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseLeigh View Post
    I think most guys wouldn't take the time to talk to us about other stuff. And most of us wouldn't want to take the time either. Though it would be refreshing to be able to without worrying about a drop in earnings from being 'too together' or 'too smart'.
    The brain is the most effective erogenous zone. A whole big allure of stripclubs is that (as opposed to my real life) the girl is "attracted" to me. If I chat with her and she's one sharp lady - well, a girl who's pretty and smart and witty being "attracted" to me is as good as it gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMoon View Post
    How exactly do you close a sale with boobs? It appears you are saying that closing a sale with boobs is mutually exclusive to smart and witty conversation but I think I may have read this wrong. Can you elaborate on this?

    p.s. nice avatar!
    That's kind of what I'm saying. I wrote about this in here:
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69688

    I'm not saying I act like a nimrod the whole time and with all guys either. I try to get a feel for them, but Talky McTalksalot is still a man in a strip club and isn't there for the intellectual conversation. if he gets it, he's thrilled...but the problem is if you give it up too quickly, it's hard to make the transition from smart girl to naked girl sitting on his lap for cash. Once he has his wallet open, it's GAME ON!

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    I wouldn't narrow it down just to "academic" intelligence...

    there's also qualities of knowing the difference between "right" and "wrong" (sounds cliche, I know, but there are so many shady people in the world...) not to mention patience, tolerance, and respect for others. Basically, being a functional, responsible member of society.

    I would glady be a customer of many of the dancers here on SW

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    We still get some real tardos on this site...

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    I just think its funny you ended your post with, Peace. You're probably about 30- am I right?

    Let me know.

    Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear Martini View Post
    This ^^^. I have noticed most guys in the strip club want hot, horny, and quiet not small talk about work, education, politics, Iraq, etc.

    When I notice I'm blabbing to much about normal everyday things, the guys start shifting their attention elsewhere. I quickly switch back to what I like to call a "young, horny, energetic touchy-feely, whispering nympho", it works well too.
    I'm guilty of doing that and notice when the stripper does the switch back. When she starts talking about things other than the stripclub i'm thinking "uhhhhhh..errrrrrr" and then find myself looking at the stage or another dancer then all of a sudden i'll feel a hand on my thigh and something stripclub related being said again

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