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    So, I've been pouring over HH for the past 6 weeks, and I have learned so much. What TO do, what NOT to do...etc etc. I feel like I've had amazing teachers here on SW.

    But, I do catch myself slipping on occasion. Do you ever catch yourself doing something you KNOW you shouldn't do? For instance, I sat at the bar the other day (hardly ever do it), but as I'm sitting there, all I can think about are all the threads in HH, saying "don't sit at the bar, don't look bored!". Finally I had to get up. I felt almost guilty! LOL!

    Also, I accidently spilled out, "so do you want a dance?". Immediatly I was cursing myself inside my head. What the hell did I just say? Luckily, it actually worked with that guy - so all was not lost, but...I wanna hear what bad stripper habits and anti-HH things you do and then curse yourself for later!
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    Default Re: Bad Hustle Habits

    My worst habit is probably closing too early (this happens when I'm working too much) because I'm lazy, uninterested in talking with them and just want to dance already. This is why I always do much better when I have a couple days off between shifts.

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    Default Re: Bad Hustle Habits

    Either extreme; closing too early because I can't be bothered talking to the guy, or spending way too long talking to the guy.

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    Default Re: Bad Hustle Habits

    My bad stripper habit is judging a book by its cover. I know my target market reallly well and I can usually smell money from a mile away, but every once in a while a guy i wrote off as a total loser will spend money on smne else. GRRRRr
    These days I like to count my money. I like to wash it delicately and iron it. Sometimes I dry it with some bounty to make it all nice and cuddly. I love my money... did I say that out loud?

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    Talking too much is a biggie for me.

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    Default Re: Bad Hustle Habits

    I find myself wording things negatively sometimes.
    "So are you in for dances, or just a drink"
    fuck- why GIVE him an excuse to turn you down?
    "Are you sure I can't tempt you with a dance"
    so easy for them to say yes.

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    dont make promises on contact if you dont intend to keep them, itll make you quicker cash but goddamn does it cause you drama that you do not need.

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    Totally avoiding young guys. I really just DON'T like them. I know I can make some money off them, but I just avoid them. It's just a personal issue.

    I do tend to try and close too soon as well.

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    A bad habit I have:

    When I go up to a group, talk to one guy and he's a douche or spends 0 money, I probably don't go back to the group. I know one person doesn't = everyone, and I need to get over that.

    I also avoid young guys! I hate the ones my age----they are usually the ones trying to spend 0 money but get a date. And they think I am "achievable" since I am their age.
    The really young ones (18-21) can be sweet and usually mean well, but they don't know the concept of "big money." I once gave 3 dances to a 21 year old. At the end of the dances, he said "Wow, this is crazy. I just spent a fortune on you!! I NEVER spent this much on a stripper before, EVER." It was only $60, and I didn't wanna break his bubble, so I was just like "Well thank you! I feel so special"

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    Sometimes things can be so random though ... I agree with you about generally never sitting at the bar. But... over the weekend , I had an ok night ( only reached half my goal amount ....wasn't pissed ... but wasn't thrilled ) and was about to leave so I was winding down at the bar ( chair facing OUT though so I could watch the door ) and this older guy comes up to me and makes this little bow (as if he was appreciative or starting a martial arts match ) and he goes " you are just my type". He turned out to be such a fun customer ( tipping me his whole stack of ones on my stage set ...$20-$30 ) and buying a few dances ...then offering to take me lingerie shopping and for a dinner and pay me for it (I declined). Anyway .... don't beat yourself up. I was really surprised to even be approached at the bar. I think it was about the only time I've ever been at the bar ( I wander the floor constantly and just sit in the middle and smile if it's slow ... eventually someone sits by me because I'm right in the middle ).

    I guess my most recent bad habit was : 1. Working at night at a mid range bar with thug types ( who I already know I don't click with and they DON'T like me). 2. Trying to get some of them to tip me / buy dances by really putting on the sales pressure. I should have just stayed away from this place. No amount of gentle or tactful coaxing was getting them to spend and more forceful tactics were not working either ... I know where my element is now and I need to stick to a club where more customers are looking for my type ( luckilly there were a couple customers who wandered in who were ). I can't stand places where there is such a high ratio of people gawking for free.
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    I once gave 3 dances to a 21 year old. At the end of the dances, he said "Wow, this is crazy. I just spent a fortune on you!! I NEVER spent this much on a stripper before, EVER." It was only $60, and I didn't wanna break his bubble, so I was just like "Well thank you! I feel so special"
    THAT sounds familiar!! I also have a tendency to avoid young guys because I think they have no money...the other day I danced for a 21 yr old and the waitress asked if he wanted to buy me a drink...he said yes, and she collected the $10...when we were finished dancing he said, "Now you make sure you drink that, I spent $10 on it!!" It was kind of cute really...I just said ok thank you!! *Big Grin*

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    Default Re: Bad Hustle Habits

    Comparing myself to other girls, wondering what I'm doing wrong, instead of just try, try, trying again.

    I'm like the world's worst hustler, but I suppose there's nothing for it but to practice.

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    My bad habit numero uno is failing to go for an upsell- sometimes I just get so into the rhythm of floor dancing that I simply forget to pitch VIP. Also wasting time in various ways; talking too much, powdering my nose too long, ect

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkpvc View Post
    I find myself wording things negatively sometimes.
    "So are you in for dances, or just a drink"
    fuck- why GIVE him an excuse to turn you down?
    "Are you sure I can't tempt you with a dance"
    so easy for them to say yes.
    OH god! I've done this on both hands...I always wanna kick myself. I usually try to make a fast recovery with some witty line..but it rarely works.







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    I close too fast. I'm not a great conversationalist; I have a script, and when I've run it through, that's usually all I've got.

    Sometimes I let too much silence pass between me and a customer, which I think makes him feel awkward.
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    i pass up young guys a lot too. however, one night i had a 22 year old spend a decent amount in vip w/ me and gave me a hefty tip. then about 30 minutes later, he wanted to go back to the vip and gave me another hefty tip. so you never know. i also find myself with awkward silences and closing too early.

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    Ok, I'll be honest..I am black (duh, look @ avatar lol) and I rarely approach black male customers. That's usually because they usually only buy dances from white girls. On top of that, they usually act like the younger customers who just wanna "chill and get a drink" The last few shifts I worked, I started hustling them, just the way I hustle the white guys, and I been making good $$$.







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    Hey Everyone..

    Well Im not a dancer yet, but I have visited numerous clubs to get an idea of the environment. I always come in there with another female friend and we always have money to tip. Im not sure if it's a bad stripper habit for many but every club I have gone too it seems like 1 in 15 dancers will actually come up to us. They of course get our money and we love giving it to the ones who do come up to us. Also one thing I didn't find appealing that many dancers have done is as soon as they are done with their stage dance they make rounds and say without a smile...did u like my dance..did you like my show.. I have seen that a lot and it just seems so robotic.Very few dancers actually say "Hi ladies! So where are you from..are you having a good time...are u thinking about dancing or just coming to have fun...?"
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    My bad habit is going in at 10pm! I could make so much more if I worked 7 hours instead of 4 . Also I talk waay too much when we are busy, and lately have been spending too much time trying to upsell.

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    -losing my patience when it's slow and hiding in the dressing room waaaay tooooo much
    -slipping and asking if they "want a dance" instead of wording it better
    -asking if I can sit with them, if the flow of the conversation doesn't make it where I just side down casually

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    I don't approach every customer, even if it's dead.

    And sometimes I roll my eyes and walk away in a huff if they don't want a dance, even if I spent a whole 10 seconds talking to them. As if THAT is going to make them want one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    I don't approach every customer, even if it's dead.
    That's another one I do, too. Usually I justify it by watching to see if they tip or get dances from other girls. If they don't do either, I don't approach them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    And sometimes I roll my eyes and walk away in a huff if they don't want a dance, even if I spent a whole 10 seconds talking to them. As if THAT is going to make them want one.
    Wait-it doesn't?? I do that a lot if I slip out of character and start being me. I need to not bring me to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    I don't approach every customer, even if it's dead.

    And sometimes I roll my eyes and walk away in a huff if they don't want a dance, even if I spent a whole 10 seconds talking to them. As if THAT is going to make them want one.
    OMG yes lol..I do the same thing. I started my shift on Sunday with a group of guys (3) like this. One of them, I could feel myself being rude with, that was until one of the 3 seemed to be really interested in me, but wanted me to come back in a bit.

    I try so hard to constantly walk away with a small. Another mistake I do when a guy isn't interested in me is, as soon as I can tell he's gonna say no, I just walk away while he's in mid-sentence lol...it makes me feel good. But I know it makes me come off as a snobby bitch!







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    I have to stop doing that. Sometimes if I get the urge to do the stuck up bitch walk, but I stifle it and try to be polite....occasionally getting money out of them anyway. So I know I'm shooting myself in the foot.

    Or then I am done working the room and I go for a second lap, I find myself having to re-approach these guys sometimes. It's pretty embarrassing to pretend like I wasn't just there being an asshole.

    Just last week, I was rude to a guy because he made the horrible mistake of coming towards the end of a shitty night and didn't want a dance immediately, but his friend bought him a dance (not knowing what I had done to him) and Im like...."come on, we're going to do a dance." And his response...."with you?!?!"

    LOL.

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