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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    The irony is that Bristol and her boyfriend seem to want the child and are doing the necessary. Palin and her husband are being supportive.

    Bristol was supposed to have an abortion to avoid even the "appearance of hypocrisy" or to otherwise please YOU ?
    actaully according to the guy's myspcae page, he basically said in his bio he doesn't want kids.

    Also, it seems like a shot-gun wedding, especially with sarah in the spotlight now.

    I think if this were a liberal canidate the right would have their hands up in the air.....that hypocracy....

    Sarah Palin said her daughter had a choice, to have the baby or not, if president she would appoint judges who would take away that choice, but, its okay for her and her family.

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    I, too , was bothered by all the social conservatives praising their "decision" to keep the baby. This implied they wighed the choices available and that seems hypocritical. However the choices discussed may have been adoption or keeping the baby. The word keep vs have is important here and I don't recall the exact verbage used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jester214 View Post

    On another note, do you honestly beleive it matters that her mom is anti sex ed? For all you know she took sexed, was on birth control, and her boyfriend wore a condom. The two don't related. Quit trying to turn shit into something it's not.
    I doubt that very much. I see the issues as being very related. Teenage girls are much, much more likely to become pregnant if they're not using contraception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist View Post
    Her kids would be left alone if she didn't support a dramatic change in public school curriculum. Her theories on withholding sex-ed haven't worked for her. So, people debate the wisdom of her stance. Notice they aren't investigating her other kids.
    I know alot of people tend to forget this, but the Republican Party under the concent of Gov. Palin was the one's that said Bristol is preggers. This was due to the rumor that Bristol is the real mother of Gov. Palin's youngest son Trigg. The Republican party put these childern out there for the media and the general pulics scurtny. Not the Democrats. I can understand some of the more conservatives members on this post if it was truly the Dems or the Media that truly exposed Ms. Bristol Palin. but that is not the case.
    I also belived that if there was sex-ed in school Bristol might not be preggers. In some ways Bristol is lucky that she is only getting a baby and not some serious sexual transmitted disease. even though Bristol was seventeen I believe her choice to have sex was adultish behavior. I know alot of of us here had sex when we were seventeen and thought we were adult enough to make that choice.
    I know there are people here that wants the Obama kids under a microscope under the sake of fairness. But what we going to find. That his seven year old likes Hanna Montana and the ten year old hates math... The Dems are raising there kids so bad... they are not qualified to be the leader of the free world.
    I do agree we need to stick to the issues. For those of you that don't think that the VP stand on censorship, whether it regarding books, music, sex education is not an issue, then I would like to ask you this? ( I know this is super Hypothetical) Sen McCain is ellected and ( God forbid) he he dies. Would you want a VP that could start denying the American people certain types of information because she does not like it and her party backs it. This could lead to cascading effect. We all part of the StripperWeb Universe. Most Republicans would view this site and the members iimmoral just off of the title of this site alone. We could get shut down because "we do not represent American values". Even though when peel through the layers there is much more to all of us on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    So much for the image of the USA being rational and Iraq/Iran, etc. being a bunch of whacko religious fanatics:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080903/...palin_iraq_war


    "ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a "task that is from God."
    Nothing new. In every war we've fought there has always been a belief that God was on our side and we were doing His will. For instance here is an excerpt from a prayer FDR delivered at the end of his announcement of the Normandy landings

    And, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee; faith in our sons; faith in each other; faith in our united crusade. Let not the keenness of our spirit ever be dulled. Let not the impacts of temporary events, of temporal matters of but fleeting moment—let not these deter us in our unconquerable purpose.

    With Thy blessing, we shall prevail over the unholy forces of our enemy. Help us to conquer the apostles of greed and racial arrogancies. Lead us to the saving of our country, and with our sister nations into a world unity that will spell a sure peace—a peace invulnerable to the schemings of unworthy men. And a peace that will let all men live in freedom, reaping the just rewards of their honest toil. Thy will be done, Almighty God. Amen.

    Pres. FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT, June 6, 1944
    You can find similar invocations given before battles from most any country or religon. You know "If God is for us, who can be against us" Don't know how God chooses sides though when both combatants are calling on Him.
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    I'm trying to stay out of Political Poo, oops I mean 'Member Boards' lol.

    But while saying a prayer before battle is indeed nothing new (though questionable I agree, especially if both sides are fervently beseeching the same deity lol), publicly announcing that God is on Our Side in a political arena is something different and much more insidious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Real View Post
    actaully according to the guy's myspcae page, he basically said in his bio he doesn't want kids.

    Also, it seems like a shot-gun wedding, especially with sarah in the spotlight now.

    I think if this were a liberal canidate the right would have their hands up in the air.....that hypocracy....

    Sarah Palin said her daughter had a choice, to have the baby or not, if president she would appoint judges who would take away that choice, but, its okay for her and her family.
    Well he's got one now; doesn't he ? He's learned the hard way to "cover up".

    As far as it being a "shotgun wedding", you don't know that.

    Many on the right would applaud her decision to bear the child.

    I don't recall Palin saying anything about her daughter having a "choice". I think she said her daughter "decided" to have the child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    I don't recall Palin saying anything about her daughter having a "choice". I think she said her daughter "decided" to have the child.
    Which is implying a choice was made. When you DECIDE, you make a DECISION between two or more CHOICES.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Luscious View Post
    Which is implying a choice was made. When you DECIDE, you make a DECISION between two or more CHOICES.
    What if the other choice was to give it up for adoption ?

    With respect, unless you were sitting in the Palin's living room or kitchen table when this situation was discussed (?) then you don't know; have no way of knowing and even if you did know; it still wouldn't be any of your business.

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    What exactly is wrong with saying that Bristol made the choice to have her baby? She did. Legal or not, abortion is an option, and she DID have the legal right to an abortion even if her mother thinks she shouldn't. She did choose to have the baby, and I don't understand the problem in saying so.

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    She is a cuckoo. Bottom line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    What exactly is wrong with saying that Bristol made the choice to have her baby? She did. Legal or not, abortion is an option, and she DID have the legal right to an abortion even if her mother thinks she shouldn't. She did choose to have the baby, and I don't understand the problem in saying so.
    Is Alaska not a parental consent State? I don’t know offhand if it is or isn’t. If it is then does anyone here think her Mom would have allowed an abortion even if was what her daughter preferred?

    And how much choice did this poor girl really have anyway? Her Mom is a total religious whacko with a public persona to uphold. Not to mention her parents are most likely the only form of financial support the girl has or will have in the near future. Yeah, I’m so sure she had much of a “choice”.

    Now matter which way the issue is looked at this girl is a victim of her Mothers extreme religious views and now the media and being USED by her Mom and the entire GOP too. I feel sorry for the poor girl. She never even got a fighting chance to live a normal healthy adult life. I bet she is deep down saying a big ole fuck you to her Mom.


    But back to the topic - if Palin thinks starting this war was “God’s Plan” she must also think that all the little kids and babies who have died in Iraq deserved to die too. So much for being ProLife eh?

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    Is Alaska not a parental consent State? I don’t know offhand if it is or isn’t. If it is then does anyone here think her Mom would have allowed an abortion even if was what her daughter preferred?

    And how much choice did this poor girl really have anyway? Her Mom is a total religious whacko with a public persona to uphold. Not to mention her parents are most likely the only form of financial support the girl has or will have in the near future. Yeah, I’m so sure she had much of a “choice”.

    Now matter which way the issue is looked at this girl is a victim of her Mothers extreme religious views and now the media and being USED by her Mom and the entire GOP too. I feel sorry for the poor girl. She never even got a fighting chance to live a normal healthy adult life. I bet she is deep down saying a big ole fuck you to her Mom.


    But back to the topic - if Palin thinks starting this war was “God’s Plan” she must also think that all the little kids and babies who have died in Iraq deserved to die too. So much for being ProLife eh?
    Did the Supreme Court uphold parental consent requirements ? I don't think so.

    Btw, how do you know that Bristol doesn't share her mother's views on unborn children ?

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    Regardless of whether you think she had sufficient information and resources to make her decision, she DID make the decision. Bristol had options, not all of them what we would find palatable (running away, forging a signature, adoption, getting a lawyer and fighting for emancipation, etc.) and she chose the option that she felt was in her best interests.

    Maybe she was pressured, maybe she wasn't. Parents will always try to influence their kids to do what they feel is right, and I'm sure the Palins did the same. It's their right to do so. In no way is it anyone's business outside of their family.

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    Are we sure that she made her OWN decision? Are we sure it wasn't made FOR her? I'm not sure and I don't see how any of us can be so sure either way.

    But like I said before I feel sorry for the girl b/c her chances of a normal adult life has been all but eliminated for the foreseeable futre thanks mostly in part to her wackjob of a Mother

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    Are we sure that she made her OWN decision? Are we sure it wasn't made FOR her? I'm not sure and I don't see how any of us can be so sure either way.

    But like I said before I feel sorry for the girl b/c her chances of a normal adult life has been all but eliminated for the foreseeable futre thanks mostly in part to her wackjob of a Mother
    Did you and do you have the same concern for Chelsea ? or Cheney's daughter who was outed on national television byu Edwards ?

    As for the Palins, we can't be sure and will NEVER be sure because it is a PRIVATE matter. The "Right to Privacy". Sound familiar ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Did you and do you have the same concern for Chelsea ? or Cheney's daughter who was outed on national television byu Edwards ?

    As for the Palins, we can't be sure and will NEVER be sure because it is a PRIVATE matter. The "Right to Privacy". Sound familiar ?



    Obama and Biden have respected Palin's kids. They are a class act.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zia_Abq View Post
    Are we sure that she made her OWN decision? Are we sure it wasn't made FOR her? I'm not sure and I don't see how any of us can be so sure either way.

    But like I said before I feel sorry for the girl b/c her chances of a normal adult life has been all but eliminated for the foreseeable futre thanks mostly in part to her wackjob of a Mother


    I'm starting to think McCain is a whackjob too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sapphiregirl View Post
    Obama and Biden have respected Palin's kids. They are a class act.


    "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." June, 1998....John McCain
    Not true. Howard Gutman has NOT been fired by Obama for saying publicly that Sarah Palin should "devote herself to her family" instead of running for Vice President and he made direct mention of Bristol's pregnancy as evidence of Palin's "neglect" of her motherly duties.

    He said it on Laura Ingraham's radio show on Friday. Obama has pledged to "fire anyone" who attacks the children of either McCain or Palin.
    Must have had his finger crossed because Gutman has NOT been fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Not true. Howard Gutman has NOT been fired by Obama for saying publicly that Sarah Palin should "devote herself to her family" instead of running for Vice president and he made direct mention of Bristol's pregnancy as evidence of Palin's "neglect" of her motherly duties.



    You are really grasping for something.....lol



    Well.....Palin is on youtube videos saying her kids have nannies.... so I'm sure they are fine why she campaigns for the aerial shooting of wolves and bears.

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    You are really grasping for something.....lol



    Well.....Palin is on youtube videos saying her kids have nannies.... so I'm sure they are fine why she campaigns for the aerial shooting of wolves and bears.
    "Grasping" ? One of his chief campaign operatives violates a direct order from Obama about laying off families and children; doesn't get fired after Obama pledged to do just that and I'm "grasping" ?????
    More like it fell into my lap.

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    So I got another note from my fabulous Mom about Palin today. Since I shared the last one I figured I'd share again. Here is what she wrote:

    “I 'm not poking fun at Palin's religion, but in case you are not familiar with the Pentecostal church (her church for many years and where she spoke in June) is what is referred to in Ky and other southern states as holy rollers. People in these churches roll around on the floor and speak in unknown tongues. They say they are touched by God and speak things that no one but God understands.

    There was a lady from her church on the news today talking about that. She referred to the speaking butI don't know if they roll on the floor in her church, but they sure do in Ky.”

    Btw, my Mom was born, raised and then fled as fast as she could out rural KY (outside Pikeville to be exact ) so she would know.

    I wrote her back and said she was a better woman than me because while I respect their right to practice their beliefs, I DO make fun of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zia_Abq View Post
    So I got another note from my fabulous Mom about Palin today. Since I shared the last one I figured I'd share again. Here is what she wrote:

    “I 'm not poking fun at Palin's religion, but in case you are not familiar with the Pentecostal church (her church for many years and where she spoke in June) is what is referred to in Ky and other southern states as holy rollers. People in these churches roll around on the floor and speak in unknown tongues. They say they are touched by God and speak things that no one but God understands.

    There was a lady from her church on the news today talking about that. She referred to the speaking butI don't know if they roll on the floor in her church, but they sure do in Ky.”

    Btw, my Mom was born, raised and then fled as fast as she could out rural KY (outside Pikeville to be exact ) so she would know




    Yep....scary scary stuff when you think of those people in Presidential or Vice Presidential positions.....especially when she is running with war hungry McCain.

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    Not all Pentecostals speak in tongues or roll on the floor. I think that's mainly an Appalachian thing. At any rate, what difference does it make? Some people might think it's weird that I sway and chant in Hebrew when I pray. It has no bearing on the way I do my job.

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    It does if you try to push your religious agenda on others. That's the problem with Palin, not her religion (although it is pretty wacky to most people.)
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