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    Every pregnancy is preventable? Abortion is not medically necessary? I suggest you research your facts a bit closer.

    Of the women getting abortions in America, half were using contraception at the time of conception. You are a sexually active adult who admits to using contraception, so therefore, you believe in sexually safer practices, not abstinence for the roughly 600,000 women whose contraception failed them. Other than abstinence, what other suggestions do you have for these women to absolutely prevent pregnancy?

    No medical necessity? How about ectopic pregnancy, uterine cancer, anencephalic fetus, medical conditions of the mother in which the mother cannot live without certain medications, but the medications are guaranteed to have devastating effects on the fetus; and eclampsia to name just a few.

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    ^Was about to say the same thing Kitty, this could soon become my first SW fight. The ignorance in this thread is astounding, moving on.....

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    probably to some extent, they are. For instance, if a poor woman becomes pregnant with a tubal pregnancy, medicare will pay for the abortion. Planned Parenthood is funded by a variety of sources public and private. It is impossible to say where the funding came from for abortion procedures through that agency.

    So, in a sense, yes taxes pay for abortions. I can guarantee you that it is a lot cheaper for the taxpayer to cover the cost of an abortion than it is to cover the cost of an unwanted child in the foster care system or to cover welfare/medicare/ food stamps for an underage and/or poor mother.

    I agree. With all the stamps, medicaid, welfare, section 8, and free daycare programs there are out there. We're speding millions supporting other people's kids. But you mentioned a tubal pregnancy in which it is medically necessary to get an abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxingdoc View Post
    Every pregnancy is preventable? Abortion is not medically necessary? I suggest you research your facts a bit closer.

    Of the women getting abortions in America, half were using contraception at the time of conception. You are a sexually active adult who admits to using contraception, so therefore, you believe in sexually safer practices, not abstinence for the roughly 600,000 women whose contraception failed them. Other than abstinence, what other suggestions do you have for these women to absolutely prevent pregnancy?

    No medical necessity? How about ectopic pregnancy, uterine cancer, anencephalic fetus, medical conditions of the mother in which the mother cannot live without certain medications, but the medications are guaranteed to have devastating effects on the fetus; and eclampsia to name just a few.
    Im so glad you jumped into this thread. Unfortunately I don't think facts are of interest to her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    probably to some extent, they are. For instance, if a poor woman becomes pregnant with a tubal pregnancy, medicare will pay for the abortion. Planned Parenthood is funded by a variety of sources public and private. It is impossible to say where the funding came from for abortion procedures through that agency.

    So, in a sense, yes taxes pay for abortions. I can guarantee you that it is a lot cheaper for the taxpayer to cover the cost of an abortion than it is to cover the cost of an unwanted child in the foster care system or to cover welfare/medicare/ food stamps for an underage and/or poor mother.
    YAY!!! FREE abortions for EVERYONE!

    I'm sorry.. I just felt that this is where this thread was heading.


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    Quote Originally Posted by happygiggles View Post
    well here in america where they're not free, we make a way to pay for it. if what jasmine is saying is true she can go get medicaid in her state to pay for it. but for all the people i know who've had abortions, that 385 was gathered up by any means possible
    You quoted and responded to Kitty! British

    Seriously, I'm outta here

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxingdoc View Post
    Every pregnancy is preventable? Abortion is not medically necessary? I suggest you research your facts a bit closer.

    Of the women getting abortions in America, half were using contraception at the time of conception. You are a sexually active adult who admits to using contraception, so therefore, you believe in sexually safer practices, not abstinence for the roughly 600,000 women whose contraception failed them. Other than abstinence, what other suggestions do you have for these women to absolutely prevent pregnancy?

    No medical necessity? How about ectopic pregnancy, uterine cancer, anencephalic fetus, medical conditions of the mother in which the mother cannot live without certain medications, but the medications are guaranteed to have devastating effects on the fetus; and eclampsia to name just a few.
    Actually, I'm 6 mos celibate. Before I had my child i was practicing safer sex and never got pregnant til i decided that i wanted to. I guess I was one of the lucky ones. but all the reasons you mentioned in the second paragraph ARE medically necessary and it's different from "oops i'm pregnant. I don't wanna have a baby right now"

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    You also forgot that birth control isn't 100%.


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    HG it's not up to you to decide the moral threshold for when a woman should be able to have an abortion.
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    Found a list of states that are incredibly easy to get a funded abortion:

    Alaska, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Vermont, Washington, and West Virginia.

    Also another list of states with some restrictions, however these are also supposedly easy:
    Indiana, Iowa, Mississippi, Utah, Virginia, and Wisconsin.

    Another article stated that there were only 17 states that made getting an abortion under Medicaid particularly diffficult, sorry, it was a Kaiser study and didn't list those states however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happygiggles View Post
    It may not be cosmetic but it's not medically necessary
    Your words. You seem to be changing your tune.

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    Just wanted to add that......when it comes down to it the money doesn't mean shit. It is a huge decision that is very difficult to make, and once you've made the decision- the money doesn't matter. I paid a little over 700 dollars to go to a private clinic and it was worth every penny- when I paid for it I didn't feel any pressure about the money, it was all about the decision and my life.

    That's what we should be focusing on, the quality of women's lives and their right to choose how they want to live them- not what government program pays for abortions. If they can't afford an abortion, they can't afford a baby, so in the end taxes are paying for "irresponsibility" either way... whether it's medicare/aid for the abortion or WIC, section 8, etc for the mother who can't afford her choice to keep a pregnancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasmine View Post
    Found a list of states that are incredibly easy to get a funded abortion:

    Alaska, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Vermont, Washington, and West Virginia.

    Also another list of states with some restrictions, however these are also supposedly easy:
    Indiana, Iowa, Mississippi, Utah, Virginia, and Wisconsin.

    Another article stated that there were only 17 states that made getting an abortion under Medicaid particularly diffficult, sorry, it was a Kaiser study and didn't list those states however.
    I wonder if the OP in the ladies only thread is from any of those areas. She asked anyone who could help her to PM her. Maybe she doesn't know what services are available?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post
    YAY!!! FREE abortions for EVERYONE!

    I'm sorry.. I just felt that this is where this thread was heading.
    LMAO! Yay going to get knocked up at the first guy I see then heading down to the abortion clinic for my free abortion, sticker and a cookie!

    This thread is good morning lolz. I'm dying laughing over here.
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    HG it's not up to you to decide the moral threshold for when a woman should be able to have an abortion.
    i didn't say abortions should not be offered to women who want one. you can have one whenever you like but i personally do not wanna pay for it. and yes i do get tired of the money that's been coming out of my check since i was 16 to pay for all the section 8, food stamps, welfare etc...... but WIC ain't really that hard to get. i had a lil job when i got it, was staying with my mama who has a full time job and receives a child support check for me and my lil brother yet still qualified with all that income

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    Quote Originally Posted by happygiggles View Post
    i didn't say abortions should not be offered to women who want one. you can have one whenever you like but i personally do not wanna pay for it. and yes i do get tired of the money that's been coming out of my check since i was 16 to pay for all the section 8, food stamps, welfare etc...... but WIC ain't really that hard to get. i had a lil job when i got it, was staying with my mama who has a full time job and receives a child support check for me and my lil brother yet still qualified with all that income
    well that's life mate, so suck it up. You pay tax and the government chooses what they want to spend taxpayer dollars on. thankfully they offer assistance to people in need even tho according to you these people should not be offered assistance coz they didn't prevent their cosmetic pregnancies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    well that's life mate, so suck it up. You pay tax and the government chooses what they want to spend taxpayer dollars on. thankfully they offer assistance to people in need even tho according to you these people should not be offered assistance coz they didn't prevent their cosmetic pregnancies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    well that's life mate, so suck it up. You pay tax and the government chooses what they want to spend taxpayer dollars on. thankfully they offer assistance to people in need even tho according to you these people should not be offered assistance coz they didn't prevent their cosmetic pregnancies.

    the government should help people. that's what they are there for. but look at all the people out here just abusing the system with their 30 dollar rent and 15 million children yet doing hair on the porch getting money. it should be there, but regulated better. and i know in tennessee it's getting much better cuz they're serving all the dads with child support orders to pay the state back. my mama lost her job of 12 years when the warehouse closed down and was only getting child support and unemployment, yet she made "too much money" to get assistance

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    ^ You know... people would stop having 50million children on their porch if they could get access to abortion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post
    ^ You know... people would stop having 50million children on their porch if they could get access to abortion.
    must be a big ol porch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by happygiggles View Post
    i didn't say abortions should not be offered to women who want one. you can have one whenever you like but i personally do not wanna pay for it. and yes i do get tired of the money that's been coming out of my check since i was 16 to pay for all the section 8, food stamps, welfare etc...... but WIC ain't really that hard to get. i had a lil job when i got it, was staying with my mama who has a full time job and receives a child support check for me and my lil brother yet still qualified with all that income
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    the government should help people. that's what they are there for. but look at all the people out here just abusing the system with their 30 dollar rent and 15 million children yet doing hair on the porch getting money. it should be there, but regulated better. and i know in tennessee it's getting much better cuz they're serving all the dads with child support orders to pay the state back. my mama lost her job of 12 years when the warehouse closed down and was only getting child support and unemployment, yet she made "too much money" to get assistance
    Which one is it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post
    ^ You know... people would stop having 50million children on their porch if they could get access to abortion.
    doubt it. most of these people have these children just so they can play the system. i've seen girls with 2 day old babies down at the stamp office to get every available assistance they can get. even affecting the men too. i heard a guy say once, "i want me a bitch with some section 8." These women who had these babies had em cuz they wanted to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post
    Which one is it?
    she lost her job back in 05. i got wic in 08.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happygiggles View Post
    the government should help people. that's what they are there for. but look at all the people out here just abusing the system with their 30 dollar rent and 15 million children yet doing hair on the porch getting money. it should be there, but regulated better. and i know in tennessee it's getting much better cuz they're serving all the dads with child support orders to pay the state back. my mama lost her job of 12 years when the warehouse closed down and was only getting child support and unemployment, yet she made "too much money" to get assistance
    No system is perfect. But this is irrelevant. You are arguing that women who are too poor to pay for their own abortions should just remain pregnant because your tax dollars should not have to pay for abortions? What abotu your tax dollars paying to support children from poor families and families on assistance? That would far outweigh the cost of an abortion.

    But I cannot have a logical argument with a person who says things such as

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    Quote Originally Posted by happygiggles View Post
    i didn't say abortions should not be offered to women who want one. you can have one whenever you like but i personally do not wanna pay for it. and yes i do get tired of the money that's been coming out of my check since i was 16 to pay for all the section 8, food stamps, welfare etc...... but WIC ain't really that hard to get. i had a lil job when i got it, was staying with my mama who has a full time job and receives a child support check for me and my lil brother yet still qualified with all that income
    So its perfectly fine for me to pay for others kids with my tax dollars(apparently since I paid for yours) for 18 years at a time or more...but not ok for my tax dollars to go towards someone being responsible enough to realize that they dont have the means or health to raise a child.

    And those taxes they'll take out of your warehouse check aint the end kiddo....you still have to file. Same as you have to file the money you made dancing.

    This is the more ignorant and insane thread I've seen on here in a LOOONNGG time..and thats sayin' something. I cant believe it hasnt been closed.

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