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    Does your favorite club have any mean girls who like to make fun of people who have fallen off the edge of "normality" and become sad? Here's a thread for making fun of 'em!


    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=124188

    No. No. NO! I don't really think we should make fun of anyone, but I wonder if these women actually realize they are making fun of people who obviously have some real problems.

    Erection man, Faux Mafioso, a guy who had his larynx removed and now breaths through a hole in his neck, some guy imitating a bouncer by coming into the club wearing their 'uniform', an old dude who gives out dollar coins and Hersey kisses, another old man whose obviously broke and tells dancers he is waiting on his social security check and on and on and on...

    Don't tell me about dealing with people on the fringes of society. I was a cop in a large city for 25 years. Very few jobs deal with more people who could be considered fringe than cops in cities. You deal with them every day. I couldn't have been an officer for five minutes, let alone 25 years, if I didn't learn how to deal with it and it wasn't by making fun of people in sad or poor conditions or with borderline mental issues.

    You picked a job that attracts these types of folks. Deal with it. Cope. These guys are the ones coming to clubs because they just don't get much attention from people anywhere else. Move around or pass them. No one is saying you have to pay attention to them. You don't have to kick them when their are already down though, even behind their back.

    And before anyone says it, no that isn't how cops deal with having these folks in our lives... not the good ones anyway. The young, immature, ones maybe but never the older guys. With us it was more, "There but for the grace of what ever higher power." We knew these guys always turned out to be some one's brother, father, son, what have you. We'd make the notification to families when they were found dead someplace [usually alone in an SRO dwelling or something of that ilk], or take them home when they were found walking about in the street - not quite knowing what planet they were on. Which is how a lot of these people wind up.

    I am NOT saying these dancers can't do what ever they want. I'm stating an OPINION.

    That opinion is that it's just plain immature and incredibly mean spirited and I won't pretend to understand meanness and cruelty. I hope none of them ever have a father, brother, son, nephew, etc, who becomes one of these people and has folks snickering at them behind their back.


    [and yes, I know someone -maybe several someones- will tell me to blow it out my ass but you'll forgive me if I think that just proves they can't see it for what it is and proves my point]
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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    I don't know GR. I read that thread and for the most part the people being talked about are the cheap ass time wasters and wannabe sc insiders who from the reported behavior deserve some ridicule. It's just blowing off some steam about stupid customers. You'll notice that none of the people they posted about could be considered even a decent customer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPLUT View Post
    I don't know GR. I read that thread and for the most part the people being talked about are the cheap ass time wasters and wannabe sc insiders who from the reported behavior deserve some ridicule. It's just blowing off some steam about stupid customers. You'll notice that none of the people they posted about could be considered even a decent customer.
    Reread it Splut. Their major complaint what that they were cheap, but WHY were they cheap? Did you miss the parts that described them? I didn't cherry pick the examples I listed above. They are from the very first 15 posts or so. I couldn't read further because it was such a downer thread.

    Of course these people are cheap. Some are old. Some can't keep jobs. Some are just plain not all there in the head.

    The posters in that thread didn't see that though. They just saw cheap, dirty, smelly, or different.

    Yeah, they are all those things, but they are all those things for a reason.

    So if you don't like them, and some of them are rather unlikable because fringe folk tend to be a bit unstable, you don't deal with them. That doesn't mean you make fun of them behind their backs. That is just SOOOOO uncool.
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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Maybe they cope by venting on SW.
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    They appear to be discussing their asshole/cheap customers. Kinda what their site is designed for. Oh, and you (though not by name). Hmmm...

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    Dude, it's a bunch of dancers engaging in locker room talk about cheap customers. This is just another attempt by you to create drama and controversy where non exists...

    You really need another hobby...
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    My reading comprehension is fine GR, I got it the first time. Stripper shouldn't have to care about WHY someone is a cheap loser. These folks you seem to care about, without ever meeting any of them, are like pop up ads on you computer. A waste of time and effort. I'm betting you have a pop up blocker on you machine. The strippers don't have one as it seems the CLUB will let anyone in. If the club wants to cater to them fine, but the dancers are there to make money and they already know they're not getting any from those losers.

    A better question would be Why do YOU - GR care?

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    I would say that most of us aren't swooping out of the wings to save these guys who are, as you put it, fringe, because really? How can we? Of course there will be the occasional oddball- it's a place where one can try and fulfill the basic human need for companionship with less of a necessity to follow forms.

    Working within the modified social contract of a strip club can be a delicate thing. As a cop, you had to deal with these people, and you were given the tools to do so. I, both literally and figuratively, can't afford to give these people what they think they need. I'm there to do a job and make money, and they want me to sit all night for free. I'm there to provide entertainment and a pleasant distraction, and they want a something much bigger. I have no desire to come home to someone waiting on my doorstep because they think we're meant to be together, and have made some sort of murder suicide pact in their head to make it happen.

    While I think the state of the mental health care system in the US is abominable, I'm not a part of that system. I haven't been given the tools and parameters to deal with these folks. I'm set up to deal with the "I've got some free time to kill, I'll do it looking at pretty ladies" set, not the "I never sought treatment for PTSD after the war" set.

    That being said, if I could take 5 minutes and fix the fact that Old Man Trache was ruined by medical bills and poor financial planning all his life, or could do a dance and suddenly set Private Tet Offensive on track to mental stability, darn if I wouldn't do it. But I can't. It would take far, far more than I have to give, and there would always be more of them. The only way I can deal with these people is to seperate myself from them, put a mental buffer in. One cannot contemplate in full all the suffering in the world, or one is incapacitated. So, I leave these people to those who can actually help them. Like you.

    As for the joking, comedy=tragedy+time. Always has. It's a way to acknowledge the tragedy without being crippled by it. There's a reason gallows humor is so prevalent in certain occupations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish View Post
    Wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round....
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    yoda, I want you so bad it aches in the swimsuit area.
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    ANd i thought the dancers liked my elvis outfit and my Statue Of Liberty was pure genius Oh bother..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Palmer View Post
    They appear to be discussing their asshole/cheap customers. Kinda what their site is designed for. Oh, and you (though not by name). Hmmm...

    CP
    Truly? I didn't see it but like I said I didn't get past the first page before it got just too mean spirited in nature to want to read further. In fact it obviously disgusted me enough that it moved me to make this thread. I really find little justification in doing the kind of mean spirited stuff that is going on in that thread.

    Personally I don't believe I'm a topic worthy of discussion in this format.

    Ideas, yes. Personalities, no.

    Maybe its just me after all. If no one else can see any meanness in there because they use the word cheap while obviously discusing, at least in the first 15 posts or so that I read, people with some real problems.

    No... its not just me. There ARE standards. If its cheap and that is the only issue than fine. Then why are the original posts describing the "cheap" souls in such terms as to make it obvious that these are people with REAL problems. [see my original post above]

    No, making fun of EDPs, the old and and debilitated isn't just not PC, its just cruel.

    If some of you gents can't see that than you know you place yourselves in the postion where it might be YOU someday, or your brother, dad, grand-father, etc.

    Nope. In this matter there is right and there is wrong. Making comments among your peers about cheap customers solely because they are cheap: right. Making fun of folks behind their backs, where they can't defend themselves, because some of them are cheap, or smelly, or what ever and making no distinction that THESE specific people are that way because they have REAL problems: wrong.

    Me, personaly, whether the people involved are well or have some difficulty I dont say anything behind some one's back I wouldn't say directly to their face.

    I'm old school that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    Dude, it's a bunch of dancers engaging in locker room talk about cheap customers. This is just another attempt by you to create drama and controversy where non exists...

    You really need another hobby...
    I'm talking about human behavior because I find it very interesting, both as part of my former career where it was a big part of what I did for a living, and because as a science it is what we deal with the most, since we deal with each other, but seem to understand the least.

    It is an intrisic and integral part of every day life.

    This, however, is a bit more than that.

    I have a family member who I know goes to strip-clubs because he likes pretty women, just like any guy, and there isn't a lot of that in his life because, while he is intellectually normal, he has social/medical issues [depression that defies treatment with medication]. It keeps him from being able to hold a job. He is on disablity. He doesn't have a wife, a girl-friend, a family like some of us do. He doesn't always bath as much as he should. He doesn't have much money.

    He goes to strip-clubs because, quite frankly, that is the only place he can probably get close to a woman. Sad, but accurate. Strip-clubs draw a lot of such people. Woman who work in strip-clubs, just like other jobs [like my former occupation] who have much interaction with these type of people have to deal with them.

    Ther choice of job is a personal choice. These people didn't have that choice. They didn't choose to be old, sick, emotionally crippled. It just is.

    I didn't like dealing with them any more than these women do. They are smelly, annoying and some just plain unlikable. I didn't make fun of them though. Either to their face OR behind their back. I did my job, like the professional I was.
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    GGAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWDDDDDDDDD GET A LIFE DUDE. Obviously you aren't picking up what we're puttin' down.........seriously.

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    YAAA!! Sooooo next time YOU are in a strip club......open your wallet you cheap bastard or get the F out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't really care if you are the oldest, weirdest, creepiest dude ever.....as long as TIP THAT HIP, we're cool

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    WE DON'T MIND THAT THEY ARE OLD AND WEIRD. WE REALIZE THAT COMES WITH THE JOB DUDE............All we are saying is they should TIP just as the rich, freshly showered guy should TIP. TIP TIP TIP TIP TIP TIP Thats the name of the game guy- and no matter how smelly you are YOU HAVE TO TIP

    "If you ain't got no money take your BROKE ASS HOME"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissAlethea View Post
    I would say that most of us aren't swooping out of the wings to save these guys who are, as you put it, fringe, because really? How can we? Of course there will be the occasional oddball- it's a place where one can try and fulfill the basic human need for companionship with less of a necessity to follow forms.
    Just about all the people they were talking about in those first posts were obviously "odd" by most peoples' standards.

    And no one is talking about saving them.

    Just not diss'ing them. If for no other reason than self-interest in the state of your karmic well being that should be done. What goes around, comes around. Right?

    Working within the modified social contract of a strip club can be a delicate thing. As a cop, you had to deal with these people, and you were given the tools to do so. I, both literally and figuratively, can't afford to give these people what they think they need.
    Again, if you read what I wrote you see I don't suggest you should give them anything. In fact, I suggested that if you find them a problem you totally ignore them. Just not take away more than they've lost already by ridiculing them behind their backs.

    As for the joking, comedy=tragedy+time. Always has. It's a way to acknowledge the tragedy without being crippled by it. There's a reason gallows humor is so prevalent in certain occupations.
    Cops have gallows humor. We use it mostly do deal with what scares us. Lots of AIDS jokes back in the early-mid 80s, and the like when no one knew if you could catch it by sharing the same air as someone with the virus, etc. Not to make fun of folks with mental/social impairments. Nothing scary about those folks.

    At least not the more mature cops. Like I said, the younger guys you might find them doing some of that, but it was a sure sign that EVERYTHING scared them.

    Is that what it is here as well?
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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendita View Post
    Since you used two of my blurbs there as examples, I am going to respond to this.
    I was not making fun of either of those guys for being old and lonely. I posted about them because they are too cheap to buy dances from us. Coin guy gives us a SINGLE DOLLAR for the whole day, yet he stands next to the stage and stares at us all fucking day. Apparently, he thinks that standing there and telling us jokes qualifies as tipping. No, it does not.
    That fellow probably has issues. He's there because he likes pretty women and has no place else better to be [kind of sad in its own right].

    Why not just tune him out? It's what I would do.

    Don't dancers have "ignore filters" just like on this website. Most people do. I know I have one. When I was a beat cop and came across someone that didn't demand my attention in a professional capacity, wasn't breaking any laws, but was being a personal pest to me I'd give him what amount of myself I thought he deserved and after that simply dialed his volume down until I couldn't hear him anymore. That's what pros do.

    The old guy "waiting on his social security check" ALWAYS has plenty of money for the shit load of drinks that he consumes. He won't even tip the waitress because he is "waiting on his social security check". And when I gave him a dance the ONE TIME he got one from any girl, I told him UP FRONT how much they were, and he still got all angry and refused to pay at the end.
    OK, here I may have jumped the gun, and if I did I apologize. Still, it could be that the drink is more important to him [for obvious reasons] and leaves him with no money for anything else once he's gotten "his medicine", so to speak. Again, the simple answer is to not give him what he wants and ignore him. Why the need to belittle him behind his back? What does it resolve? Does it makes you feel better to do it and if so, WHY does it make you feel better? What does that say about you?

    These are things people of introspection ask themselves from time to time for answers as to who they are and where are they going.

    There are plenty of old, lonely, quirky men that come into the club. Most of them tip appropriately, and I did not mention them at all. I have one of the quietest, most akward people ever who gets dances from me every time he is there, because he understands that it is a STRIP CLUB and he should not be there if he can't/ won't spend money on dancers.
    Your world is not much different than mine when I was on the beat in that neither of us get to dictate who is there and who isn't while we are working [will, I could arrest someone if they gave me cause, but that isn't what I am driving at]. You are trying to say who ought, and ought not, be in the club and that really isn't your right.

    Your right is to deal with who you choose and to ignore who you choose and what I am suggesting is that you use that right, as I am sure you do, to deal with the issue. The rest is just mean spirited, gives you nothing [unless you can tell me there is some pleasure in ridiculing such people as these], and doesn't solve your problem.

    wishing well...
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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Ive seen more oddballs accepted in the SC accepted and somewhat loved
    than ridiculed. key difference: even a couple of dollars, and some hygeine.
    why is it always the rankest fuck who wants to hold me close in a death grip (thanks
    mama for those defense manuvers you taught me-- so helpful in these situations.)

    but to answer the main question and to paraphrase Joe Dirt:

    Because this ain't no fucking UNICEF and I am NOT Mother Theresa in booty shorts. I
    volunteer in contexts where it is appropriate to help such lost souls. A stripclub is not one of these contexts where such people loiter and commit theft of service when they
    a. never pay a dollar (or only ONE dollar) to a dancer despite the view
    and
    b. the occasional asses who try to steal our time by trying to
    trap up in mindnumbing conversation about their desperate lives.

    There are hotlines for this. just because they want to look at titties
    while talking doesn't mean they get interaction for free based on how
    sad their life is.

    for an ex-cop you seem to ignore the KISS principle a ton:
    Keep it Simple Stupid.

    want to castigate girls who make fun of mentally or physically handicapped
    clientele and take advantage of them? I am all for it.

    asking women why the make fun of guys who should not be there,
    who interrupt our real work, steal the enjoyment of our product,
    and hassle us is not using the brains Im betting your mama gave
    you.

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    You know what... I'm going to admit to diminishing returns on this one.

    It's a personal thing and if you don't see that tinkling on these guys backs when they aren't looking isn't going to resolve the problems you are having with them, and it makes you feel better to do it...

    I'm taking my own advise on this one.

    This is me turning the volume down.
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    good. and FYI, most of us would piss on these types of
    assholes when they are looking.

    there's sad and deserving of sympathy
    and then there are those who try to evoke
    sympathy to get away with innapropriate
    bullshit.

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    The difference between a cop and a stripper in reference to dealing with these people is that cops GET PAID to deal with these people while strippers essentially are PAYING to dealing with them.

    It's easy for you to say how it's mean to make fun of cheap bastards who don't pay for whatever reason, because you having been a cop where never expecting to get paid by them. What if you didn't get a pay check one week. Would you be angered or would you just think "well the people I dealt with have mental/physical/emotional issues of some kind and me helping them was payment enough, go ahead and keep my check. Actually don't bother paying me at all". I highly doubt it. Even volunteer public service workers are helping these people on their own time, when a stripper is at WORK it is not on her own time.

    Do you think real estate people don't talk about how people are cheap when they spend 8 months trying to find a 900k house in new york when really the buyer only has a 100k budget. OF COARSE THEY DO! At a certain point they will drop them as a client all together, which is what we do when we walk away, but they will still be mad that they passed up another appointment by a buyer with reasonable expectations, or the months it took them to figure out the buyer was never serious in buying in the first place.

    People have the right to be pissed that someone uses their services and then refuse to pay for them, no matter what the users issues are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Rule View Post
    I'm talking about human behavior because I find it very interesting, both as part of my former career where it was a big part of what I did for a living, and because as a science it is what we deal with the most, since we deal with each other, but seem to understand the least.
    OK, I didn't ask but thanks for that bit of info....
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    This, however, is a bit more than that.
    Well, you say it is, I say it is just another case of GR trying to create drama where there is none.
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    I have a family member who I know goes to strip-clubs because he likes pretty women, just like any guy, and there isn't a lot of that in his life because, while he is intellectually normal, he has social/medical issues [depression that defies treatment with medication]. It keeps him from being able to hold a job. He is on disablity. He doesn't have a wife, a girl-friend, a family like some of us do. He doesn't always bath as much as he should. He doesn't have much money.

    He goes to strip-clubs because, quite frankly, that is the only place he can probably get close to a woman. Sad, but accurate. Strip-clubs draw a lot of such people. Woman who work in strip-clubs, just like other jobs [like my former occupation] who have much interaction with these type of people have to deal with them.
    Sorry but there is a huge difference between any other job where someone gets paid to go to work and dancing where you show up for free and have to get guys to spend money on you. I can be the cheapest SOB in town but if my house gets broken into a public servant on the city payroll is going to show up and investigate the crime...and get paid for doing it. Not the case where folks work on spec. Ever wonder what the salesmen at a car dealership say about the tire-kickers after they drive off?
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    Ther choice of job is a personal choice. These people didn't have that choice. They didn't choose to be old, sick, emotionally crippled. It just is.
    Ah, but they did choose to go into a strip club, not spend any money and waste the time of the girls inside who are trying to earn. You are ignoring the basic premise of the thread that you are whining about just to further your baseless argument GR.
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    I didn't like dealing with them any more than these women do. They are smelly, annoying and some just plain unlikable. I didn't make fun of them though. Either to their face OR behind their back. I did my job, like the professional I was.
    Well, again, you got paid for dealing with them. A dancer loses valuable sales opportunity when she invests time with a guy who is not spending and has no intention of doing so. Maybe your outlook would be different if, during your career, you only got paid when you caught the bad guy rather than simply for showing up at work every day.
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    yoda, I want you so bad it aches in the swimsuit area.
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    Default Re: Mean Gals Galore! lolzzzzz

    Who said strippers had to be social workers tending to the needs of non-spending customers that have no business being in a club in the first place? And why are they suddenly cruel and unfeeling if they don't have empathy for individuals that don't respect their economic motivations?

    Some people find it easier to attack the messenger than the message. There is usually a reason for that. That reason is usually because the message itself, no matter how much they might dislike it, is fundamentally sound.
    Clearly, this is not the case with the preponderance of your posts; there's nothing sound about them. I frequently wonder if you're really at all familiar with the actual trends, environs and personalities within the industry.
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