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    So the club I am working at has informed me that they only allow 3 black girls on the floor at a time. I need to call in advance to let them when I'm coming in because if they're are already 3 on, I wont be allowed to work.

    I don't even know what to think of this. On one hand I kind of understand- I'm not in Houston Tx or anything (wishing I was now though) so I guess black girls just arent as 'marketable'. But at the same time I think this really blows fat chunks. Like, what happens if I start at 12p and by 7p a fourth girl wants to work... will I be forced to go home even though I wish to continue working because Ive been there the longest?
    Another really frustrating thing about all this is the fact that I am actually mixed race ( black and white) so unless I tell you my race, you have no clue. My first night everyone was curious and asked about my race because my look is quite amibiguous, most thought I was either cuban or Brazillian. I dont know if it is even worth asking if I played myself off as Cuban or something would the rule still apply. And what about the asian girls.... does this apply to them too or because their skin is light it doesnt matter?

    What do you guys think of all this and are there any rules like this in place at clubs that you work/worked.

    I don't want to go screaming the bid D word but its hard not to feel discriminated against when never before in my life has my skin color affected my work somehow.

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    Wow that's really awful. Im in Australia and I cant imagine there ever being a rule like that at any clubs here. It seems racist to me.
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    That totally sucks. I mean, what the hell?

    I can't talk though. Our club won't let two black chicks do walk out together. I guess it's just too much fabulous booty for those poor old white dudes to handle

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    I have read 2 of your posts and I think we may live in the same city.

    I'm really sorry you have to put up with this

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    My old club wouldn't allow two black girls on stage at the same time. They also wouldn't allow two black girls to go on stage back to back. I would've said it was racist, but they were the same way with blondes.
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    I work in a club that has 3 black chicks. And boy do they piss and moan if a new black girl comes to audition.( well mostly the one does) But it's ok if we get a new white chick. B/C they don't consider it as taking away from them. But us white chicks have to deal w/ it no matter who comes in- it's all competition. They seem to think that there are only so many guys that will go to them in this club.
    And we do follow a rotation of black white blonde brunette in this club.

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    My club is really random with who is on stage at the same time. There can be 3 blondes on stage at once, they don't care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mare View Post
    I work in a club that has 3 black chicks. And boy do they piss and moan if a new black girl comes to audition.( well mostly the one does) But it's ok if we get a new white chick. B/C they don't consider it as taking away from them. But us white chicks have to deal w/ it no matter who comes in- it's all competition. They seem to think that there are only so many guys that will go to them in this club.
    And we do follow a rotation of black white blonde brunette in this club.

    I must admit, I get a bit disappointed when new black girls come to work at my club. I liked being the only black girl. Although, I don't make a big deal about it. I just try to stand out in a different way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkleeyz View Post
    I must admit, I get a bit disappointed when new black girls come to work at my club. I liked being the only black girl. Although, I don't make a big deal about it. I just try to stand out in a different way.
    Is that because you find you make money off the clientele who've got a case of jungle fever, and another girl means sharing?

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    This seems incredibly racist to me, I've never heard of any clubs in the UK with rules like this. Isn't it illegal to stop someone working because of their race?



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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkleeyz View Post
    My old club wouldn't allow two black girls on stage at the same time. They also wouldn't allow two black girls to go on stage back to back. I would've said it was racist, but they were the same way with blondes.
    this is fairly common. at my current club they split up girls by looks -period-. there's one other redhead on my shift and they always split us. they also split up the blondes or the really tan VS super white girls, or the black girls, etc. they'll also split us by music.

    i don't consider that racist.

    i consider what the OP is describing racist though. it's one thing to alternate looks on stage to show guys you have all different types of girls, but it's another to say "we can't have too many black girls working here". that's just fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billie657 View Post
    So the club I am working at has informed me that they only allow 3 black girls on the floor at a time. I need to call in advance to let them when I'm coming in because if they're are already 3 on, I wont be allowed to work.
    It is discrimination. Flat out and of course wrong. Sadly this is a business where that kind of crap goes on rather unchecked. It’s best to use what little independent contractor rights we have and find clubs that best suit our goals and tolerance level of various working standards and environment.

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    I understand about mixing up stage variety. Where I used to work, they used to put a blonde girl up, then a brunette, or a curvy girl and then a waif-y girl to keep some variety in the stage shows. Obviously they were going with the idea that there is a "type" for every guy, and if a particular dude doesn't really dig the dancer onstage, he might like the next one and still keep his tipping seat by the stage. However, only "allowing" 3 black girls to be on the floor at a time? Come on.
    Do they limit the number of blondes and brunettes that are on the floor as well? Total discrimination. It's sad that this is the environment where management may get away with bullshit like that. I am sorry, that totally sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billie657 View Post
    Is that because you find you make money off the clientele who've got a case of jungle fever, and another girl means sharing?

    Absolutely. When I'm the only black girl there, any guy that walks in and prefers black women has no choice but to spend money on me. When there are other black girls, I've got to share the wealth. I wouldn't mind if there was plenty of money for black girls at my club, but my market is pretty small. So more black girls means I go from averaging $200-$300 per night, to averaging $100 per night. But, I find with the two black girls that were recently hired at my club, we're so different that I don't feel they're taking money out of my pocket. One is short with HUGE boobs. The other is short with a big butt. Both are more....."hood" while I'm more "white-wash" as people describe us. I'm tall with small boobs and a small butt. They both have wild hair and I have long, straight black hair. They dance to hip-hop, I dance to Paramore/Soundgarden etc. Actually, my music depends on the crowd to be honest. So the idea is that they take money out of my pocket, but realistically, it depends on the girls that are hired.
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    I feel for you. A lot of clubs are racist only some have different ways of showing it. Out here, a lot of clubs LOVE to place as many black girls as possible on dayshift or morning shift instead of nights when clubs tend to be the busiest. A Greek owned club that's notorious for refusing to hire Black or dark skin Latina dancers finally began hiring them but they keep it at a very low minimum. Are you able to change clubs?

    I can understand not wanting to put black girls on stage back to back because they're thinking the customers might not go for it. But if that's the case, then they'd better make certain not to put Asian girls up back to back or any other ethnicity for that matter. If I was a guy, I certainly wouldn't want to see two blondes go up back to back. Variety is the spice of life.

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    That's completely fucked up. They had a lawsuit about something like that here in Alaska and the club (s?) had to pay the girls they'd limited from working.



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    I'm definitely looking into new clubs to work at.
    I want the opportunity to see how much I can bank. I dont need a limitation like that keeping me from working, especially since I'm new to this.

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    I worked at the club that Billie worked at for one night and it sucked balls. I never went back. I hope she will be starting tomorrow at my club and then I'll have the pleasure of meeting a fourth SW member

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    I think that is seriously fucked up.
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    Thats crazy I live in the south so down here that shit would not fly.

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    Ugh, that is racist - no two ways about it. I've read what seems like a lot of posts on here from black girls who say that they have trouble getting hired due to skin color. Sorry you have to deal with that.

    I had management at one club mention to me that they would only take on a few black girls at a time, but there was no cap on Asians or whites. This was in one of the most liberal cities in the U.S., too. I think it is a fear that black girls will not appeal to the existing customer base (which was mostly Asian and white men, in that club) and/or that they will attract a new customer base of black men and those men will be more potentially "troublesome." However, I don't think that either of those fears is well-founded, at least based on what I have seen.

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    That is racist, but clubs do discriminate all the time on many factors. However I do think racism is 1 of the worst in the industry becuz it affects who they hire and not just shedules or rotation.

    I do know of 2 girls at my club who can't work on the same shifts at my club only becuz they are both tiny 5'2" and petite school girl types that attract the same customers/always compete with eachother so it's not fair to them becuz they both are the only 2 in our club that have limits on what shifts they can work baised on eachother, but that is just how our manager sees it.

    He also makes sure the most attractive girls are the last on stage before we close becuz we get that 5 in the mourning rush soo he wants them to remember our top girls to keep them coming back and that doesn't work out fair to those of us who want to go home or are always already really busy the last hour.

    They also try not to have any types of pairs back to back on stage and are pretty good at keep a disverse mix among us so while I do know my manager is racist in that he only hires a certin number of black girls(and ussually 1's that conisder themself white black girls--preffer white guys) he's just a hater all across the board won't let the hispanics speak spanish, picks on me for being a dyke, picks on others for being not to brite, and generally is an ass to everybody. Still when it comes to money he knows how to max out his sheduling becuz at the end of the day that is what matters to him so when he tells me I look burnt out and tells me to take 2 weeks off it's ussaully becuz he is right and it shows in my adverages. So you might think yr manager is being a pain for not letting you work this shift or not, but if he is making sure you are not dividing up yr dollar per hour he might be doing you a favor.
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    Isn't there some kind of law that prohibits against this? That's fucked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mollyzmoon View Post
    Three years ago when I started, my club put little stars next to black dancers' names on the schedule, and would quota-limit how many could work a shift. They don't do that anymore.
    Wow, little stars now THAT is crazy!

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    I must admit, I get a bit disappointed when new black girls come to work at my club. I liked being the only black girl. Although, I don't make a big deal about it. I just try to stand out in a different way.
    Why? It's all about sales. LOL if you feel that way sparkleeyz you'd HATE me working at your club lol.

    I LOVE working when other black girls work cause I do view them as my competition and I hustle WAY HARDER when black girls are working than when they don't. Seriously, last weekend I was walking out w/ $600+ while the other black girls were leaving with $100 IF THAT! *CK loves the haters lol*

    Quote Originally Posted by Billie657 View Post
    So the club I am working at has informed me that they only allow 3 black girls on the floor at a time. I need to call in advance to let them when I'm coming in because if they're are already 3 on, I wont be allowed to work..
    If I were you I'd ask why they only allow 3 black girls at one time. Does your club run a small amount of girls (less then 10) per shift..then yea I can see why they'd want more variety. If not, then tell your manager you will STILL make money whether there are 10 black girls or 3. I'd also tell him you pay your house just like the rest of the girls do.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Polekitten View Post
    This seems incredibly racist to me, I've never heard of any clubs in the UK with rules like this. Isn't it illegal to stop someone working because of their race?
    It seems like it ought to be. Unfortunately, appearance based jobs have, essentially, carte blanche to discriminate. Like it is considered legally legitimate (although many people might not think that it is ethically legitimate) for an artistic director to declare that he needs a certain type of person - female or male/pretty or ugly/able bodied or handicapped/black or white or asian or middle eastern or mixed race for a modeling gig.

    In my club they apparently won't put black women on the "schedule", they can only freelance. It seems to be principled racism since the DJs seem to have a hard time filling the stage.
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