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    ok, so last night, i give this cust 3 dances, then he wants me to sit & talk to him, which lasted another 2 songs.

    i charged him for five dances. he was surprised, but paid me without any retort. however, i can tell he was kind of taken aback. i'm at a new club so maybe this isn't the norm? but in fl, we were paid for however many songs we spent in the private dance area.

    was i wrong?

    i don't think so. but opinions???

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    Default Re: private dance dilemma.

    I dont know that clubs norms... but did you tell him how it was to be charged, before staying the extra songs?

    I'd feel blindsided too if i thought you were just "taking a break" and discovered afterwards that you were still charging. It all depends on how you guys approached it.

    But really, charges should ALWAYS be negotiated in advance.
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    Default Re: private dance dilemma.

    well, i asked him at the end of each song... "would you like to stay for another?" & he said, "this is getting real expensive, but sure."

    with that said, i'm assumed he knew what was up.

    but in the future i'll make sure i spell it out. argh.

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    Default Re: private dance dilemma.

    ^^^ Well, IMO, you made it clear enough but next time if you want to be super clear you could say "That was three. Keep going?"

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    Default Re: private dance dilemma.

    I think that you did the right thing; better to start out in dancing with the mind set that your time is valuable and time is money in a strip club.

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    if I am on the couch I am going to get paid, even if we are only talking. because if he isn't paying me someone else COULD be.
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    Default Re: private dance dilemma.

    I just wanna add that if you're in the dance area, have done your dances, and he says "let's just sit and talk/take a break" or something you should definitely make it clear that you're gonna charge because he more than likely will be thinking of it as a break in dances and also a break in paying. When a custy wants to stay in the private dance area and talk with me after I've done some dances I make sure to tell them I'd love to but I'll have to charge them as long as we're back there.

    I think it's better to just be upfront about it.

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    Well, in our town it isn't really the norm, but when he made the comment about it getting expensive, it sounds like there wasn't much confusion.

    What I do on the couches when a guy is chatty is stay on my feet. I just move around a bit while we talk, that way it still conveys the message that it's a "dance".

    But, I hate it when a guy says "let's take a break" during dances because he means, let's sit here together for a song that I don't have to pay for. I really hate that one, and I do it because it seems okay since it's usually when we're doing a bunch of dances, but I need to find a way around it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holiday View Post
    What I do on the couches when a guy is chatty is stay on my feet. I just move around a bit while we talk, that way it still conveys the message that it's a "dance".
    This is the best way to go. If you'll be sitting down w/ the guy and counting it as a dance price, it's best to set it up as a block of time. Luckily it worked out, but the bouncers might not have been on your side if he'd complained about being charged for those two songs.

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    Default Re: private dance dilemma.

    If a guy is buying 3 songs and then taking a song or two break, and repeating that a few times... it's fine for me. I guess I'm lazy but I get tired & appreciate the cigarette/beer break.

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    Default Re: private dance dilemma.

    If a guy's spending reasonably and not otherwise intolerable, I don't mind charging half the dance price for each song spent talking in the private dance area. I treat it as VIP time, since I'll usually sit and talk for free or for random-mood-based amounts in the main area (depending on the club and what the custies wil bear).

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    Quote Originally Posted by holiday View Post
    Well, in our town it isn't really the norm, but when he made the comment about it getting expensive, it sounds like there wasn't much confusion.

    What I do on the couches when a guy is chatty is stay on my feet. I just move around a bit while we talk, that way it still conveys the message that it's a "dance".

    But, I hate it when a guy says "let's take a break" during dances because he means, let's sit here together for a song that I don't have to pay for. I really hate that one, and I do it because it seems okay since it's usually when we're doing a bunch of dances, but I need to find a way around it.
    i'll start doing that.
    i haven't had any guys say "let's take a break," they usually phrase it differently... "sit down, relax." or "i know you must be getting tired." although for my past few shifts i have been making it clear as day that as long as i'm back there, i'm charging. most guys don't complain, some do... so i give them my "sitting on my ass" time for $10 a song, instead of $20.

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    Default Re: private dance dilemma.

    If I'm in the lapdance area, I charge per song, whether or not I'm dancing or talking. I have danced for a few songs and have had the guy just have me sit there naked and talk and paid me for all the songs with no problem. I always make sure they know that they are being charged per song back there, no matter what we are doing.

    Most clubs I've worked at, charge me a fee per song so if I didn't charge for sitting there and talking for two songs, I would have had to pay for those songs out of my pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iseestars View Post
    If I'm in the lapdance area, I charge per song, whether or not I'm dancing or talking. I have danced for a few songs and have had the guy just have me sit there naked and talk and paid me for all the songs with no problem. I always make sure they know that they are being charged per song back there, no matter what we are doing.

    Most clubs I've worked at, charge me a fee per song so if I didn't charge for sitting there and talking for two songs, I would have had to pay for those songs out of my pocket.
    Fortunately for me, at this new club of mine, they don't take a cut of the private dances. At my old club, dances were $25 & the club got $5, so it made no sense to sit and talk for "free." I suppose that's why I'm use to that mindset.

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    Default Re: private dance dilemma.

    Since many custies know about clubs that thake a cut of your dances and what not, I use this to my advantage. Wether or not the club I am dancing at that night actually charges per dance or not, I just say that they do. So, after dancing three songs, if he asks for a break to "sit & talk" for a min. I say, "that's fine sweetheart, but as long as we're back here in the lapdance area you know it's still $25 per song, thats OK right?" saying it like this will make them feel cheap if they don't at least pay you for one more song, even if they really didn't know you would keep charging them, which most guys do. The less desired response is "oh ok, I didn't know that, well lets just go back out, and I'll buy you a drink then" kind of sucks, but at least you won't have to deal with possible drama. BTW, I wouldn't reccomend actually having a drink with him. After he pays, say "oh about that drink, I going to have to take a raincheck, I think I'm going up on stage soon". Later, when you track him down, you can use his invitation to get more dances out of him
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