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    ok, so a friend of mine has a daughter a few months younger than mine 4 1/2 or so.

    both girls are going to be going to the same prek so i told her i'd watch her daughter in the morning and take her to prek with mine..and pick her up.

    now i am WELL known for my analness about car seats.

    her daughter is TINY, about 4 inches shorter than mine (granted, mine is very tall). my daughter is still in a 5 point harness, until her shoulders reach the top of the straps, there is NO reason what so ever to move her, it's very dangerous.

    so anyway, she moved her daughter to a backless booster seat, she is not even tall enough for the manufacturers recommendations...now she isn't even heavy enough! WHY MOVE HER! seriously!

    she is BITCHING about me making her get me a 5 point harness car seat for HER daughter...how many people would seriously complain about a another person wanting to make sure their child is safe!

    keep in mind that her ex husbands mom has an extra one, so she doesn't even have to buy one! but even IF she had to buy one, she was saying "well, are you gonna buy it, cause i'm not, i don't have the money" so i said "they them on sale at walmart for $43, if she's in just a booster then i'm not gonna have her in my car" she comes back with " well i guess she's not going to prek!" WTF!?! really!?

    she gets her nails done at least twice a month, she lives in a small house (with a small payment) with her boyfriend, so they both have a good income, not rich, but certainly can afford a $43 fuckin dollar car seat! lay off the nails for ONE MONTH and BOOM, there's the money!

    so i sent her this email....

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    hey you
    i know i know..but i'm gonna keep pestering you...if i didn't
    care i wouldn't keep on youplease please watch,it's only 4
    minutes
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azgBhZfcqaQ

    http://www.kyledavidmiller.org/pages/home/index.htm

    please just take a couple of minutes"


    she doesn't want to watch it..she totally understands that it's not ok, to have
    her daugther in the this booster, but for the sake of "convience" she won't put her in a
    5 point harness.

    GRRRRRRRRRRRRR i could scream right now!

    am i being rediculous?? i mean really?

    if i got into an accident and her daughter got hurt or killed on my watch cause
    she was in a booster and not a carseat, i couldn't deal with that. at least if she
    was in a carseat i know i did EVERYTHING i could to keep her safe.





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    my youngest is 6 and still in a booster seat. she only recently got swapped over to a booster seat....about a year ago.

    don't let her daughter in your car without what you require.

    I don't understand how people don't want their children as safe as possible....no matter the cost.
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    It really pisses me off when people are so cavalier with their children's lives. Plenty of people actually WANT to be good parents and can't have kids, and here you have wastes like this who have kids and can't be arsed. It's bullshit.

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    I don't know what to say except I really commend you for your safety. Some people would just do whatever their friend wanted, but it's nice you held your ground. And that is pretty ridiculous she sounds like shes just being really stubborn for the sake of being stubborn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sassysummer View Post
    ok, so a friend of mine has a daughter a few months younger than mine 4 1/2 or so.

    both girls are going to be going to the same prek so i told her i'd watch her daughter in the morning and take her to prek with mine..and pick her up.

    now i am WELL known for my analness about car seats.

    her daughter is TINY, about 4 inches shorter than mine (granted, mine is very tall). my daughter is still in a 5 point harness, until her shoulders reach the top of the straps, there is NO reason what so ever to move her, it's very dangerous.

    so anyway, she moved her daughter to a backless booster seat, she is not even tall enough for the manufacturers recommendations...now she isn't even heavy enough! WHY MOVE HER! seriously!
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    You think that is bad?? A girlfriend of mine used to put her daughter (an INFANT at the time), in one of those carseats that pop in and out of the base and into the grocery cart, etc....She would SET the seat on the FRONT PASSENGER SEAT. She wouldn't even buckle it down.

    I went off numerous times...recounted a car accident my husband had when our daughter was only 7 weeks (was told that had the carseat not been installed 100% properly, she would have died). Didn't even phase her. I was livid.

    At age 3, she started letting her ride in the FRONT also, NO SEATBELT. It makes me sick that she thinks so little of her own daughter's safety....
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    Some states have assistance programs for low-income mothers who "cannot" afford a car seat.

    Sigh. Well, it's nice to know there are parents like sassysummer, at least.....

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    I would probably call the police and report her. Not being mean, but my cousins daughter was killed in an accident nearly a year ago. She would have turned 7 the next day. She was tiny, but wasn't in a booster. Her 2 bigger sisters and her baby brother (who was in a car seat) were just banged up but she had a fatal head injury due to "improper restraints".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bianca O'Blivion View Post
    Some states have assistance programs for low-income mothers who "cannot" afford a car seat.

    Sigh. Well, it's nice to know there are parents like sassysummer, at least.....
    aww thanks

    she's not low income though...so she wouldn't even qualify, they both just bought "new" used cars, one is a big dodge ram double cab and the other is a sentra, both just a couple of years old, so they can afford a $43 car seat (it even turns into a high back booster up to 100 lbs!)





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    Quote Originally Posted by jasmine View Post
    I would probably call the police and report her. Not being mean, but my cousins daughter was killed in an accident nearly a year ago. She would have turned 7 the next day. She was tiny, but wasn't in a booster. Her 2 bigger sisters and her baby brother (who was in a car seat) were just banged up but she had a fatal head injury due to "improper restraints".
    there's nothing they can do, there's really no "law" per se regarding when to move to a booster, just a law regarding when you can move out of a booster.

    oh and txchick...i see that SOOOO often. i always call the cops on people like that, it's totally illegal and she can get reported to cps for endangering the welfare of a child.





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    I never realized car seat stuff was so tricky! You are in the right here. She needs to be more careful.

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    It kills me that some of the same people that complain about not having money to buy NECESSITIES for their children are the same ones that get their hair done every week, nails done every other week, BUY lunch every day and constantly have new clothes and shoes. You're not being ridiculous at all. You are 100% right.
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    sassysummer I see stuff like that alot and it makes me so mad. I couldnt imagine life without my little ones so i do everything I can to keep them safe. stick to your gun and hopefully your friend will do the responsible thing.

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    when I was three my mom had me riding in the front seat with a seatbelt on the way home from dropping my sis off somewhere. we got rear ended and it gave me some brain damage and it took years for me to feel better, and it was hard to develope past it at first. my mom went to jail that day and if u broke the law with her dauhter in the car and got in a serious accident u would too.

    its very serious because it was such a minor accident only broke one taillight. and i still flew out of the seat belt. idk about booster seats but its not a good sign that she is ignoring the safety laws!

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    You are being a good friend to her, and she is bitching about it???

    Tell her your car, your rules, and if she doesn't like it then oh well.

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    That's awful....what a bitch ! Don't do anything you are not comfortable with. It's a shame that she cares so little about her daughters safety...
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    Not to thread jack, but on a lighter note. My mom looses her temper at the car seat ads and warnings. She's 4'8 at 55 years old

    She's gotta sit two throw pillows to see over her steering wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryEyes View Post
    Tell her your car, your rules, and if she doesn't like it then oh well.
    Exactly.

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    Just get the seat yourself, and keep it in your car. Then when she outgrows the seat you can donate it to charity. That should shame that mom into doing the right thing, proving that you are more concerned about her daughter's safety than she is.


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    That would piss me off too. Ya know some firestations have carseat programs. In my area they just give them away. They're not super fancy, but they are safe. You should check with your local station.
    And please keep refusing to drive her daughter until she gets the proper seat. You could be in a real mess if an accident occured and the child could be seriously injured or killed.

    If she still refuses to get a new seat after a month or two do you think you would be willing to buy her one and give it as a gift? Just for her daughters sake...

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    well, she got one of her extra ones that her ex has...so we have one now. i'm just pissed at all the complaining that her and her bf are doing about it.


    i told her flat out, i will NOT take her without a 5 point harness car seat, none of this booster bs.





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    Oh wow some of these stories are just ridiculous and sad. I really hope she resolves to buy a carseat. Your daughter is about to grow out of hers, right? I know it sucks to give things to people who you feel could afford it, but it may be worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sassysummer View Post
    well, she got one of her extra ones that her ex has...so we have one now. i'm just pissed at all the complaining that her and her bf are doing about it.


    i told her flat out, i will NOT take her without a 5 point harness car seat, none of this booster bs.
    We were posting at the same time. I'm glad you guys got the other car seat finally. It's just crazy how stubborn of a person she is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    Not to thread jack, but on a lighter note. My mom looses her temper at the car seat ads and warnings. She's 4'8 at 55 years old

    She's gotta sit two throw pillows to see over her steering wheel.
    OMG! My family gives me shit about going to jail if I get pulled over (for not being in a booster seat)! They drive me nuts every time those commercials come on.

    I can't believe your mom can't see though, that would suck! I don't have to sit on anything as long as it's not a big giant truck or something, but I'm actually about 4'10 - 4'11. I guess that extra couple inches makes a big difference.

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    SassySummer-you are absolutely not being ridiculous. The world is full of dumb, clueless people, and your friend is one of them. I was a paramedic for a number of years and I personally had to perform cpr on two children who would have easily survived if they had been properly restrained. Seeing unrestrained children in vehicles drives me absolutely nuts. There were too many over the years, but two of them absolutely would have survived if they were restrained.

    Many fire and police departments work with safekids.org to show parents how to properly install safety seats, and in many cases they can provide a seat. Our department does.

    What your friend is doing is inexcusable.

    The stress of treating dying and dead children fucked me up for a long time and eventually ended my career as a paramedic.

    We can't 'fix' people who would not provide this basic safety for their own children. They think they know better. Do your best and put your foot down, and do NOT transport that child in your car without a proper and properly installed seat.

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    I see kids riding in the front seats all the time when Im driving. It makes me so sick! Its like Hello Idiot? Are u a dumb ass or what! Dont you love ur child. My sons safety always comes first.

    I Dont Care, from now on Im taking Lisc. plate #'s down and reporting them.

    SassySummer I commend you for sticking to your parenting skills and not lowering to hers.

    Shoot, she's lucky to have someone willing to drive and pick up her daughter. What more could you ask for!

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