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    This has been happening to me when I sleep, but strangely enough, almost exclusively when napping during the day, but occasionally at night:

    (sorry if this is a little freaky)

    I half-wake up, but I can't move at all. I can sort of open my eyes, but only a flicker. My breathing is weird and I can't speak. I always get the feeling there is another person in the room, and I am trying to get them to help me come out of the paralyzed state, attempting to reach out at them or speak to them. I have no idea if I am actually moving or speaking for real. The other person is not ghost like, but usually I think my roommate is there, or if I'm at my boyfriends, I think he is there. They never are actually in the room.
    A few times I have felt like there is something more sinister in the room. One time, I actually felt like an octopus-like creature was sitting on my chest, with a tentacle wrapped around my face. When I wake up from this state, I feel completely unrested and a little queasy.

    In researching, it sounds like sleep paralysis but I am not sure. Does this sort of stuff happen to anyone else? Is there anything to be done for it? Its freaky! It makes me afraid to take naps...

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    I think I know the feeling. It's like a barely conscious sleep and when it happens I THINK it's my roommate and I am trying to move or open my eyes or talk but I just can't. When I ask him the next morning if he came in my room he says no. This is pretty rare though but sounds like a similar issue. I know it's no help but you're definately not alone!

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    It's sleep paralysis. It's where the incubus/succubus story came from.

    It actually can be the beginning of astral projection if you learn to control the fear and ride on the vibrations and let go.
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    It's happened to me too. It used to happen more often, but it hasn't in a while. Mine were always scary, like, somebody bad was in the room and I couldn't get away or wake up my boyfriend to help me no matter how hard I wanted to.

    My therapist told me I had to find a way to force myself back to sleep, because there wasn't anything I could do when I woke up that way to magically make myself able to move. It still freaks me out though, and it's part of the reason I sleep with a light on. Somehow having a light on makes it not as scary to my crazy little brain.

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    Also you are more prone to sleep paralysis when you sleep laying on your back, try laying on your side or stomach. It's not foolproof, I've had SP while laying on my side still, but it's less common that it will happen.
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    Hypnagogia

    Transition to and from sleep may be attended by a wide variety of sensory experiences. These can occur in any modality, individually or combined, and range from the vague and barely perceptible to vivid hallucinations.


    Sights

    Among the more commonly reported, and more thoroughly researched, sensory features of hypnagogia are phosphenes, also called ‘entoptic phenomena’. Hypnagogic phosphenes can manifest as seemingly random speckles, lines or geometrical patterns, including form constants, or as figurative (representational) images. They may be monochromatic or richly coloured, still or moving, flat or three-dimensional (offering an impression of perspective). Individual images are typically fleeting and given to very rapid changes. They are said to differ from dreams proper in that hypnagogic imagery is usually static and lacking in narrative content, although others understand the state rather as a gradual transition from hypnagogia to fragmentary dreams, i.e. from simple ‘eigenlicht’ to whole imagined scenes. Descriptions of exceptionally vivid and elaborate hypnagogic visuals can be found in the work of Marie-Jean-Léon, Marquis d'Hervey de Saint Denys.


    The ‘Tetris Effect’

    People who have spent a long time at some repetitive activity before sleep, in particular one that is new to them, may find that it dominates their imagery as they grow drowsy, a tendency dubbed the Tetris effect. This effect has even been observed in amnesiacs who otherwise have no memory of the original activity. When the activity involves moving objects, as in the computer game Tetris, the corresponding hypnagogic images too tend to be perceived as moving. The Tetris effect is not confined to visual imagery, but can manifest in other modalities also. For example, Robert Stickgold recounts having experienced the touch of rocks while falling asleep after mountain climbing.This can also occur if people swim in waves shortly before going to bed, and "feel" the waves as they drift to sleep.

    [edit] Sounds

    Hypnagogic imagery is often auditory or has an auditory component. Like the visuals, hypnagogic sounds vary in intensity from faint impressions to loud noises, such as crashes and bangs (exploding head syndrome). People may imagine their own name called or a doorbell ringing. Snatches of imagined speech are common. While typically nonsensical and fragmented, these speech events can occasionally strike the individual as apt comments on – or summations of – their thoughts at the time. They often contain wordplay, neologisms and made-up names. Hypnagogic speech may manifest as the subject’s own ‘inner voice’, or as the voices of others: familiar people or strangers. More rarely, poetry or music is heard.

    Sleep paralysis

    Humming, roaring, hissing, rushing and buzzing noises are frequent in conjunction with sleep paralysis (SP). This happens when the REM atonia sets in sooner than usual, before the person is fully asleep, or persists longer than usual, after the person has (in other respects) fully awoken. SP is reportedly very frequent among narcoleptics. In surveys from Canada, China, England, Japan and Nigeria, 20 to 60% of individuals reported having experienced SP at least once in their lifetime. It occurs frequently in about 6% of the rest of the population, and occurs occasionally in 60%. The paralysis itself is frequently accompanied by additional phenomena. Typical examples include a feeling of being crushed or suffocated, electric ‘tingles’ or ‘vibrations’, imagined speech and other noises, the imagined presence of a visible or invisible entity, and sometimes intense emotion: fear or euphoria and orgasmic feelings. SP has been proposed as an explanation for at least some alien abduction experiences.

    Other sensations

    Gustatory, olfactory and thermal sensations in hypnagogia have all been reported, as well as tactile sensations (including those kinds classed as paraesthesia or formication). Sometimes there is synaesthesia; many people report seeing a flash of light or some other visual image in response to a real sound. Proprioceptive effects may be noticed, with numbness and changes in perceived body size and proportions, feelings of floating or bobbing, and out-of-body experiences.Perhaps the most common experience of this kind is the falling sensation, and associated hypnic jerk, encountered by many people, at least occasionally, while drifting off to sleep.

    Subjective interpretation

    Hypnagogic phenomena may be interpreted as visions, prophesies, premonitions, apparitions and inspiration (artistic or divine), depending on the experiencer’s beliefs and those of their culture.
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    I've experienced this before. Usually, its after I've had a nightmare severe enough that I've woken up. Some physical aspect of the nightmare will stay with me, and i won't be able to move, or try to get it out. The most common one, for me, is dreaming I'm being tied down, raped, and canibalized. I wake up, I still can't move, and I keep feeling knives across my skin, and people biting me. I've been having that dream since i was 9.


    Oh, and i ALWAYS have the "falling" and jerk, when i go to sleep.

    It doesn't sound liek htis is actually harmful?

    Can be a bit scary at times, but so long as its not doing any harm, I'd just say remain calm, as best you can, and try to sleep again.
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    I only get it when I'm emotionally strung out or haven't slept enough. Some folks have it as constant issue that interferes with the sleep cycle. At that point, I think it's treated as a neurological disorder?
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    Research alien abduction love, sounds similar

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    Albtraum: the Germanic word for nightmare stems from the word 'album' - mythological creatures that created bad dreams. Oddly enough, these creatures were often painted as small demons who'd lay on a persons body and make them feel weighed down/trapped, despite their small size.

    At lot of old art work revolves around this subject. Just google Henry Fuseli!

    Isn't it weird how a lot of sleep paralysis also involves the feeling that something is with you in the room, or on you? Really makes ya think!





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    ^ I hate you lol I was all good until I saw those pics .



    My sister has called me crying before because this same kind of thing has happened to her. I have had it happen but I guess the mild type. *shrugs* not sure but it is very scare.

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    I get sp too!! I used to get it soo bad I was terrified to go to sleep everynight.At 17 and 18 I would still climb into bed with my mom after having sp.Till this day I still pray every night that I won’t have an episode. My stupid ass boyfriend was the one that scared the shit out of me by telling me that demons are the ones sitting on me and paralyzing me.But thankfully, after talking to my therapist, she told me that sp is just another form of night terrors (like the kind you get as a kid.)She said extreme stress can also increase the frequency of sp.So there's the scientific theory and the scary ass demon theory. I choose to go with science, because it helps me sleep better at night lol.

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    Weird! At least I feel better that its not just me.

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