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    Default I seem to not know how to hustle

    Because all I get is.... O how much to come home with me... I don't do lap dances... Theyre a waste of time.... Maybe later.... If I can't touch, then no. I am new to dancing and still a little shy and nervous when it comes to approaching custies.... I used to only let them approach me until I realised I can't make money that way. I feel like an idiot because I never know what to say when I approach them. I think I act too friendly and sweet and not sexy enough? I will talk with a guy when its slow, and think I'm going to get some dances and as soon as I get up, he says he's leaving. WTF?! This happens to me too much. I'm a bad stripper LOL

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    ^^ Everyone gets these lines! The trick is to know how to talk your way around them.

    Resistance is to be expected. LD's are usually a good amount of money for very little time. You have to learn how to find the cracks in the guy's resistance!

    Hustle Hut is your best friend for this.

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    Default Re: I seem to not know how to hustle

    You need to search for handling objections.

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    I agree with Charlie61. These are common oppositions. You need to find playful ways to overcome the obstacle. For example: If he tells you that he doesn't do lap dances, tell him that you were asking him to do anything, just to sit there and enjoy. Or if he tells you that they are a waste of time, tell him how sorry you are that his last dance sucked. But I guess they can't all be as good as you are.

    You can never act too friendly or sweet. Some guys are really into that. Maybe you have to learn how to pinpoint the ones that are. On the other hand, you can be too personal. I've seen many a girl lose a guy completely because she doesn't know what is and is not appropriate. I try to keep him talking. Or to keep the convo about things he seems interested in. Make him feel good. That's why he's there.

    Don't be so hard on yourself. You're probably not as bad as you think you are. Men are holding on tight to their wallets. The economy hasn't been profitable lately.

    And, if all else fails: give away some free dances. No one wants to be the first to get a dance. So break the ice. Just make sure it's in the open where everyone can see you. Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butrcup98 View Post

    And, if all else fails: give away some free dances. No one wants to be the first to get a dance. So break the ice. Just make sure it's in the open where everyone can see you. Good luck
    I have to say. I whole heartedly disagree with this suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butrcup98 View Post
    I agree with Charlie61. These are common oppositions. You need to find playful ways to overcome the obstacle. For example: If he tells you that he doesn't do lap dances, tell him that you were asking him to do anything, just to sit there and enjoy. Or if he tells you that they are a waste of time, tell him how sorry you are that his last dance sucked. But I guess they can't all be as good as you are.

    You can never act too friendly or sweet. Some guys are really into that. Maybe you have to learn how to pinpoint the ones that are. On the other hand, you can be too personal. I've seen many a girl lose a guy completely because she doesn't know what is and is not appropriate. I try to keep him talking. Or to keep the convo about things he seems interested in. Make him feel good. That's why he's there.

    Don't be so hard on yourself. You're probably not as bad as you think you are. Men are holding on tight to their wallets. The economy hasn't been profitable lately.

    And, if all else fails: give away some free dances. No one wants to be the first to get a dance. So break the ice. Just make sure it's in the open where everyone can see you. Good luck
    There IS such a thing as being too sweet-most guys will take advantage. IMO, the top earners are consistently the ones with the most aggressive hustle. Men don't always part with their money easily and sometimes you have to twist their arm a little. If he says he doesn't do lap dances, ask him why he's in a strip club then. Usually these guys are time wasters that aren't worth the effort anyway, so why waste your valuable time being extra nice? Move on and find the guy that DOES do lap dances. If he says that lap dances aren't worth it because he can't touch, tell what he CAN do instead of touching and make it seem worth it. If he doesn't go for it, he's probably a gropey, handsey perv that would have made dancing for him hell anyway. Whatever the case, DO NOT waste your time being overly nice, chatting for free, and ESPECIALLY not giving away free dances- you need to make your rounds around the club and find the guys that WILL spend instead of being nice to guys who won't. You're there to make money, and if they're not there to spend it on you, then fuck 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh View Post
    I have to say. I whole heartedly disagree with this suggestion.
    I second this. Free dances are a great way to DE-value the worth of a dance. This sounds like something a clueless newbie would do.

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    The only free lapdance-giving should be in conjunction with closing a VIP sale (i.e. throw in the $20 sample dance with the hour)
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    Why would you ever dance for free, that devalues the whole dance point, you're worth that money and you need to believe it and project it.
    These days I like to count my money. I like to wash it delicately and iron it. Sometimes I dry it with some bounty to make it all nice and cuddly. I love my money... did I say that out loud?

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    Everyone's heard those excuses that customers give every night and it is part of the profession. You have to persevere and move on to the next customer until you hear "yes". Sometimes it can get taxing and when the no's start to get to me, I smile and politely ask for a tip with an explanation that I work for tips in this establishment.

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    Read "Best of Hustle Hut." Learn to be more aggressive, and be confident. Practice, practice, practice.

    I have nights where I hustle my ass off and don't sell a single dance till the last 2 hours of my shift, and then it's like ding! and I'm suddenly banking. You have to get used to the rejection, because it's going to happen a lot. Keep going till you find the guy who is going to make your night, or at least get you off to a good start.

    Read best of Hustle Hut! And practice that shit in the mirror, in the shower, in your car on the way to work. I swear once you get used to saying your "lines" and getting into "character," selling dances will become so much easier.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockell View Post
    There IS such a thing as being too sweet-most guys will take advantage. IMO, the top earners are consistently the ones with the most aggressive hustle. Men don't always part with their money easily and sometimes you have to twist their arm a little. If he says he doesn't do lap dances, ask him why he's in a strip club then. Usually these guys are time wasters that aren't worth the effort anyway, so why waste your valuable time being extra nice? Move on and find the guy that DOES do lap dances. If he says that lap dances aren't worth it because he can't touch, tell what he CAN do instead of touching and make it seem worth it. If he doesn't go for it, he's probably a gropey, handsey perv that would have made dancing for him hell anyway. Whatever the case, DO NOT waste your time being overly nice, chatting for free, and ESPECIALLY not giving away free dances- you need to make your rounds around the club and find the guys that WILL spend instead of being nice to guys who won't. You're there to make money, and if they're not there to spend it on you, then fuck 'em.
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    As bad as the economy is, guys are still spending. If they're at the club, their fair game, and it doesn't take all day to assess their potential.

    It may be helpful for you to view yourself as a product. Find creative ways to answer the question of not only "why buy," but "why buy from you." Being able to articulate the value in why custys should spend on you is essential in setting yourself apart from the competition. Look around the floor, see how other people are being approached. Learn from doing, but peep the competitions' game too.

    Happy Hunting

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    agree with everything that's been said so far, but another tip I would like to add is be present while you are on the floor. See who is buying dances from the other girls, and watch and see who the best hustler at your club has already talked to. Watch her reaction as she walks away, if she's smiling, there's a good chance he told her "he would like a dance later" which means he is planning on spending money, and you will probably have to do less work when you approach because most likely she has already told him how dances work/prices ect. and you know the girls got skills. If she rolls her eyes, she has probably effectivly determined he is a time waster. And usually top earners are much quicker at figuring out who is and isn't going to spend, so let them do the work for you a little! Haha, before I became a top earner myself I would use this technique. At the 1st club I ever danced I worked with a sexy blonde who was always making the big bucks, so I would basically just watch her all night. Usually I would wait until she had already danced for the guy, than I would come up to him as she was moving on to her next target. I knew he did dances, so he couldn't use that line, or "i just got here", I would even bring up his dance. Although she wasn't really my friend, more like my idol, I would say, "so how was your dance with my friend? She is sooo sexy huh!" they would respond "yeah, but you're sexy too!" or some shit, Then I would say, "so, you're going to let me dance for you next right?" then by the end of the night I would! It helped I didn't look anything like her too.
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    What I've learned from a customer is to not let guys make excuses and talk present tense. Basically ignore their idiocy.

    "Oh your just here for a beer. Well guess what you can drink in the VIP and have my boobs/ass in your face at the same time. Besides your house (not likely) where else are you gonna find that?"

    NO FREE DANCES unless they are spending money. Even then just cut them a deal if they do a few extra dances.

    NEVER CHARGE LESS THAN WHAT IS POSTED EVEN ON MULTIPLE DANCES.

    Mark up your dances and come down from there.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripper Hacks View Post

    NO FREE DANCES unless they are spending money. Even then just cut them a deal if they do a few extra dances.

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    no free dances EVER, with the only exception being if they buy a VIP/CR
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    No free dances, ever, even if they buy a VIP. It's hard to get $ more in VIP ("I usually get a $500 tip, should they put that on your card as well?" ) if guys think you are the type of dancer that has to cut deals to get dances. Guys that are spending a lot of money don't care about a free dance. They usually don't even ask how many they did, they just give you a bunch of money which always more than covers it.

    Instead, I would work on making a list of every single way you are getting turned down (and realize we all get the same lines!) and then make a response to each one. There are some great threads in HH that talk about this. A no can usually be turned into a yes- your job is to figure out how.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelicat View Post

    Instead, I would work on making a list of every single way you are getting turned down (and realize we all get the same lines!) and then make a response to each one...A no can usually be turned into a yes- your job is to figure out how.
    exactly. good luck!

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    Washington state is notorious for cheap customers looking for a bargain basement prices and they all haggle like used car salesmen. The prices are marked up so they can be haggled down.

    It's mostly in the wording and it either seems like they getting a deal when they actually aren't. It's pretty rare I'd give a free dance but that would be the only instance that I would. They have to spend a lot but dance deals are usually reserved for pre-pay.

    I've had customers ask for a discount after spending 700-800$ and I'm like....huh? I don't think so.




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