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    I've been working in Atlanta at a no contact club (I think all Atlanta clubs are this way) for about 2 1/2 months. We have VIP, which is where the real money is (1/2 hr is $200, full hr is $400). I'm pretty good at selling VIPs, but I really don't know what the norm is in VIP. According to the law, dances in VIP should be no contact, just like dances on the floor. That's just not the reality, and I feel like there are no girls who give absolutely no contact in VIP. Plus, why would the customer pay that much money for a dance that's exactly like what they get out on the floor for $10? I have done private rooms with other girls and their contact ranges from handjobs and fingering to light touching everywhere but the pussy. My contact usually varies depending on the customer. I usually let them touch my boobs and butt, is this about normal for Atlanta VIP? I feel weird asking other girls at my club, so I was just wondering what the general consensus is on this matter. This really only applies to girls who work in no contact clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elfy23 View Post
    . I usually let them touch my boobs and butt, is this about normal for Atlanta VIP? I feel weird asking other girls at my club, so I was just wondering what the general consensus is on this matter. This really only applies to girls who work in no contact clubs.
    Don't allow them to touch any part of you! You are working in a no-contact club, and there are rules that you should adhere to for that very reason. I strongly suggest you not continue to let these men fondle you whether on the floor or in VIP. You could go to jail for that!

    I know you may feel like $200/30min is alot of money for strict air dancing..but sweetie, if you don't believe you're worth that, they won't either.







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    Default Re: VIP in 'no contact' clubs.

    What are some tactics for selling the rooms while informing customers that there will be no contact. I feel like light contact is a major selling point.

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    If you don't have a problem with them touching you then let them touch you.. The term "no contact" and VIP room sounds bizarre

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharlaB View Post
    If you don't have a problem with them touching you then let them touch you.. The term "no contact" and VIP room sounds bizarre
    Were you optionally blind for the part where she said contact in her club is ILLEGAL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helle View Post
    Were you optionally blind for the part where she said contact in her club is ILLEGAL?
    What's illegal and what actually happens are two different things.... We give "table dances" at my club but if you guys saw them you would call them lap dances....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharlaB View Post
    What's illegal and what actually happens are two different things.... We give "table dances" at my club but if you guys saw them you would call them lap dances....
    And girls like you are the reason girls like us (read; those who don't have to break the law to make a buck) have to deal with raids and law changes all the damned time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharlaB View Post
    What's illegal and what actually happens are two different things.... We give "table dances" at my club but if you guys saw them you would call them lap dances....
    You're giving bad advice all over the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharlaB View Post
    What's illegal and what actually happens are two different things.... We give "table dances" at my club but if you guys saw them you would call them lap dances....
    is it weird that every time i see a post by ^^^ i just want to rip my hair out? i would like to express myself with a quote from will farrel in stepbrothers "shut up, you're sounding stupid!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharlaB View Post
    We give "table dances" at my club but if you guys saw them you would call them lap dances....
    Yeah... This coming from the same girl who STILL has to undercut her dances because she can't sell enough of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by elfy23 View Post
    What are some tactics for selling the rooms while informing customers that there will be no contact. I feel like light contact is a major selling point.
    I would sell them the same way you have, unless informing them they are allowed to touch is apart of your "sales pitch" which then, you should toss out all together.

    I did a search in hustle hut: "no contact" and here are some threads I found ok. Please read them, and do some more searching. I've worked in no-contact clubs in my dancing career and I still made good money. The key is believing in yourself and that your time is worth it!

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...ght=no+contact

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...ght=no+contact

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...ght=no+contact <--very very good read this!

    Those should start you off. Remember, hustle hut is your friend. You will have to weed out some of the "hustling" bullshit, but you'll learn what works and doesn't for you.

    Good luck, and STOP letting them touch you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helle View Post
    And girls like you are the reason girls like us (read; those who don't have to break the law to make a buck) have to deal with raids and law changes all the damned time.
    right on sister!







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    I work at a 'no' contact club, not in atlanta though.....on the floor the bouncer will stop the dance if the customers arm so much as brushes against our legs.....VIP is also supposed to be no contact....although it really is not....after taalking to the bouncers and managers what I have gathered from them is that in VIP it is okay for the guys to 'brush' against my back and lower legs......and this is in a club where it is the last one left in the city and if someone gets in trouble they will shut the club down and they can't reopen....so it really strict....BUT THIS IS IN A DIFFERENT CITY AND A DIFFERENT STATE!

    a couple things I do to sell my 'no' contact VIPs's:
    -try to talk them in to 2 girls cause i can dance on another girl and touch them/ they can touch me.....I have a friend and on nights we work together we rarely sell vips that are not together....
    - encourage them not to touch so I can give them a better dance and move more freely
    - tell them, its not personal that you don't want them to touch (or lick, I use this one esp. for those) that is because the club says no and for hygentic reasons....and if i let every guy touch and lick me....think how many germs you would pick up by touching/licking me and how often I would get sick and couldn't work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helle View Post
    Were you optionally blind for the part where she said contact in her club is ILLEGAL?
    Dude, everything's illegal. PhairestOfThemall just got arrested in texas for "public lewdness" just for dancing in a stripclub.

    I completely agree that what's "legal" and what happens are 2 different things. So what if she lets them touch her boobs if she's comfortable with it? She's not undercutting you. You don't even live in the same state. Maybe that IS the norm in Atlanta. I don't allow much contact, personally, but I know its more than what's "legal" (which is nothing.) Here you could get arrested for letting a guy touch your leg.

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    Yeah, the thing is my club doesn't really enforce the contact rules at all. I remember when the housemom was giving me the walkthrough she told me that one way contact is the norm and to just make sure to keep at least one foot on the floor at all times. Even though by law I think we're supposed to be 6 inches away at all times. Then once I was in the upstairs VIP where there's a plastic window so customers on the floor can somewhat see (from like your chest up if you're standing infront of the window) with another girl and two customers. The other girl was hardcore making out with her guy in front of the window, when the bouncer came up. I was sure the bouncer was going to reprimand her, but instead he told her to make sure she stayed in the non-visible area (so the customers downstairs couldn't see her). It's this discrepancy between what's allowed by law and what's allowed by the club that makes it hard for me to establish reasonable boundaries. That's why I was curious if there were any other Atlanta strippers here who have been doing it for longer who could give some input. Thanks you guys!

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    But how could she possibly compete while adhering to the "no contact" law while every other dancer isn't adhering to it either? If she doesn't allow them to do what everyone else is doing why wouldn't that customer just get a dance with one of the other 95% of dancers that allow contact? I don't advocate breaking the law either but it seems like a lose-lose situation all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica0585 View Post
    is it weird that every time i see a post by ^^^ i just want to rip my hair out? i would like to express myself with a quote from will farrel in stepbrothers "shut up, you're sounding stupid!"

    Yeah, it's weird that you want to rip your hair out. When I see them I want to rip out her hair!





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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockell View Post
    But how could she possibly compete while adhering to the "no contact" law while every other dancer isn't adhering to it either? If she doesn't allow them to do what everyone else is doing why wouldn't that customer just get a dance with one of the other 95% of dancers that allow contact? I don't advocate breaking the law either but it seems like a lose-lose situation all around.
    Tha'ts like someone working in a high contact extas club and they continue to want to be a clean dancer. You wouldn't tell her to start giving BJ's and HJ's would you? The same applies in this instance. You can make money being a clean dancer. Who cares what the other girls are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyOne View Post
    Dude, everything's illegal. PhairestOfThemall just got arrested in texas for "public lewdness" just for dancing in a stripclub.

    I completely agree that what's "legal" and what happens are 2 different things. So what if she lets them touch her boobs if she's comfortable with it? She's not undercutting you. You don't even live in the same state. Maybe that IS the norm in Atlanta. I don't allow much contact, personally, but I know its more than what's "legal" (which is nothing.) Here you could get arrested for letting a guy touch your leg.
    this is so so true. sometimes i wonder where you girls work. i have NEVER worked at a club that followed the letter of the law especially in VIP.
    contact in VIP in Atlanta is the norm. she may make some money off of people that will never be there again being no contact. any local or repeat customer is going to know better and expect at least some contact.
    in fl and i'm sure atlanta. you are not going to make great money as a "clean" dancer.
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    Actually I worked at a non contact club and sold ton of VIPS. Think of VIP as a guy spending money to hang out with you, not a guy paying to "get off."
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