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    About the next few years?

    All that's on my mind the past couple of days is the current economic situation. I am planning to go back to dancing in two weeks and am envisioning an empty club and customers who demand BJs for $30. With all the news this week, I can't see why any guys would be spending on luxuries such as lapdances. I know I'm sure as heck socking away as much as possible into my savings. And people are predicting that times will be tough for a while.

    Also, this is more of a question for Dollar Den - but I'm curious. Do you guys hope that the bailout passes so that dancing is still viable for a few more months? Or do you hope that it doesn't pass, so that we can enter a "cleansing" recession and rebuild from scratch? Or do you have another theory?

    Or... am I overreacting?

    Sorry if this belongs in Dollar Den!

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    ^^^
    I don't know enough about economics to have an answer, but yes I am freaking out. I keep seeing McCain get elected and shudder shudder shudder about what will happen if he does...ACK!
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    I'm worried too. I watched the debate tonight between the vice candidates and it made me even more worried. My husband has been in construction for a long time and he's going to get laid off soon and all he talks about now is how he's going to fire school...but what if he can't get a job doing that because of government "cut backs".

    I have a family member who lost $70,000.00 in stocks last Monday. I can't even imagine how he feels right now.

    Talk about stressful.

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    ^^^

    I cant even imagine how it feels to have 70k! LOL
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    God loves strippers and when guys do things like that its an automatic ticket to HELL!


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    I am scared. I really am. I don't like the uncertainty of it all... especially in this business. I mean, anyone can lose their job, but strip clubs are a luxury expense, you know?
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    the bailout is hardly going to be a thing that makes dancing more viable, since in itself it won't repair the gangrened financial system the US is currently stuck with.

    it's going to get a lot worse before we have a producing economy again, IF ever again. and that productive economy is not going to be the prosperity americans have been taking for granted the last two generations.

    for about 60 years, americans were the most prosperous people in the history of mankind, and they chose to believe that it was not luck, or shocking good fortune, or fortunate timing, but that it was a RIGHT and to be expected because 'america is special, we deserve to always be prosperous and successful'.

    and so america descended into solipsistic consumption, eventually just shuffling trillions of fictional dollars around, believing that nobody even had to create anything, just refi or credit-default-swap their way to good fortune.

    americans took their prosperity for granted, and you know, it's just not going to be that great ever again. not for strippers, not for anyone. mel's numerous remarks about stripping ultimately being sex-clubs and a handful of showclubs is probably going to be the final pan-out, with the showclub number being very, very small compared even to right now.

    just spend and save prudently and don't believe the hype that we can go back to the absurd (and for the last half-generation mostly artificial) prosperity of the recent past.

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    For anyone who grew up working in the early 90s, the internet fueled economy was a freaky positive bubble that couldn't last. It wasn't that long ago that people had a better (though still optimistically naive view as compared with much of the world) of what is a healthy economy.

    BTW, It is not the first time the banks have failed in this country, rewind to the 80s.

    The debt we have accumulated is the scary part.

    And yes, stripping at $20-$30 every 3 minutes is an expensive luxury. Realistically you have to expect it to take a big hit.

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    Moll Flanders, meet my friend, Mary Jane (shes my main thang! LOL)

    No seriously, everyone I know works on "Wall Street" (in quotes b/c most major funds are in Midtown now!) and is freaking out. I hear about it nonstop, yet it doesn't bother me one bit. My dad lost half of his savings/retirement nest egg the other day. Even though its all around, I feel like it doesn't affect me.

    I've always been kinda oblivious to everything... I just don't ever see anything affecting me. I am "The Dude". I just abide.

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    Lol, I'm well acquainted with Mary Jane. We haven't hung out for about two weeks because she's staying at my boyfriend's place right now. Love that girl. She could cheer up the brokest stockbroker. She helps me understand that the economy doesn't matter for shit because as long as I can buy chocolate and frozen burritos, things will be just fine.

    Seriously though, good responses. Glad to know I'm not the only worried one around here. Misery loves company and all that. Sigh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    and so america descended into solipsistic consumption, eventually just shuffling trillions of fictional dollars around, believing that nobody even had to create anything, just refi or credit-default-swap their way to good fortune.

    americans took their prosperity for granted, and you know, it's just not going to be that great ever again. not for strippers, not for anyone. mel's numerous remarks about stripping ultimately being sex-clubs and a handful of showclubs is probably going to be the final pan-out, with the showclub number being very, very small compared even to right now.
    Yup. I'm in total agreement with this. Our standard of living is completely unsustainable on this scale. I would like to focus on the unlikely but optimistic idea that perhaps we as a people could come to focus on the more important things in life rather than our obsession with the material.

    I too am frightened, but fortunately have a few trade skills I figure I can trade for food. I'm also thinking about learning to repair steam engines and build water wheels.

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    Luckily Gold is still really high and business has been ok for my husband.
    It is still scary to live in such an unstable economy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    the bailout is hardly going to be a thing that makes dancing more viable, since in itself it won't repair the gangrened financial system the US is currently stuck with.

    it's going to get a lot worse before we have a producing economy again, IF ever again. and that productive economy is not going to be the prosperity americans have been taking for granted the last two generations.

    for about 60 years, americans were the most prosperous people in the history of mankind, and they chose to believe that it was not luck, or shocking good fortune, or fortunate timing, but that it was a RIGHT and to be expected because 'america is special, we deserve to always be prosperous and successful'.

    and so america descended into solipsistic consumption, eventually just shuffling trillions of fictional dollars around, believing that nobody even had to create anything, just refi or credit-default-swap their way to good fortune.

    americans took their prosperity for granted, and you know, it's just not going to be that great ever again. not for strippers, not for anyone. mel's numerous remarks about stripping ultimately being sex-clubs and a handful of showclubs is probably going to be the final pan-out, with the showclub number being very, very small compared even to right now.

    just spend and save prudently and don't believe the hype that we can go back to the absurd (and for the last half-generation mostly artificial) prosperity of the recent past.
    Well, I don't know about the "IF ever again" part. There are only a few countries in the world whose economies have plummeted straight downward, never to rise again. With the U.S.'s still-great political advantages, I really don't see us being one of them. However, I agree that the age of the American "empire" is probably past, sad to say. We will be the new Britain. Still, that's not such a bad position to be in.

    I don't think the bailout will make dancing more viable in the long or even medium run. However, luxury spending has a lot to do with people's confidence in the economy and in the lack of nasty surprises ahead for their wallets. A lot of people will relax if the bailout passes, for a little while. They'll probably still be conservative, but not in the "the sky is falling" way. So, a few more guys at the strip club with a few more dollars leaking out of their pockets.

    The sex-club/show-club vision is interesting. We'll see what happens!

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    I'm very nervous too this is the first time in years I'm scared to check my bank account and I've been very responsible with money in the past.
    I don't know enough of the "what if's" with the bailout I should definately read more about it.
    I'm very scared though and I know our custies are scared too... which in turn scares me even more.

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    I'm a little nervous about a few things affecting a lot of American's right now, but I don't see any of it directly affecting my family or I. I'm also worried that John Mccain might get elected, die, and then we'll have Palin running our country. Well, gosh darnett!

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    The economy will rebound, no economy can go up and up and up. At some point it has to fall down some for things to correct. It will rebound, it's just going to take some time.

    The next three years are going to suck no matter who's President. Although I think people will get through it, they made it through a depression, and this is no depression.

    People were having these same worries during the 80's and things worked out.

    Just be ready for the lean times, things will get better.

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    They are right that economies tend to go up and and down and up again (and down again) so a recovery is possible and even probable, but it could take a long time. 10-20 years or more.

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    nope, not at all.
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    I'm not worried at all. We are on the verge of turning a corner in our society. Things don't feel great right now, because everywhere you turn people are freaking out, but the green energy revolution is right around the corner.

    Remember, it is always darkest before the dawn!


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    I'm a little concerned about the long run, but not worried for the short run. Guys who buy dances around here aren't thinking about it as a "luxury expense" usually: they're working-class folk whose paychecks are itching in their pockets or people who have enough money to not really stress about it. And then, too, there's the opposite effect - when people should be tightening their belts, they like to spend a little to make themselves feel better. (Don't you?)

    But honestly? The thing that reassures me the most is this: when I was on testosterone, I was unemployed... and bought more porn than I ever normally do anyway. From this, I learned that when guys want to be titillated and stimulated, they REALLY want it. Get them thinking with their cocks, and the perspective changes.

    Is a lapdance worth twenty dollars? A lapdance is not worth money; it's priceless. A twenty-dollar bill is nothing next to it, is a scrap of paper, a dead leaf. After all, what does a cock think of a twenty-dollar bill, versus what it thinks of your beautiful body? :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by thechaosfairy View Post
    But honestly? The thing that reassures me the most is this: when I was on testosterone, I was unemployed... and bought more porn than I ever normally do anyway. From this, I learned that when guys want to be titillated and stimulated, they REALLY want it. Get them thinking with their cocks, and the perspective changes.

    Is a lapdance worth twenty dollars? A lapdance is not worth money; it's priceless. A twenty-dollar bill is nothing next to it, is a scrap of paper, a dead leaf. After all, what does a cock think of a twenty-dollar bill, versus what it thinks of your beautiful body? :-)
    You have a point

    And yes, testosterone has a way of trumping logic and changing it to lurid thoughts. Your big challenge is getting them in to the clubs in the first place more so then what to do once they are there.

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    Unfortunately, my club is pretty much a ghost town now. I live in a poor state as it is, but a lot of guys spending a little money has always added up well. I'm not entirely freaking out, I have no debt and a one year emergency fund, am in grad school and my last year of dancing anyway. But it is really disappointing and depressing. I read on SW that some dancers say their club isn't affected by the economy, that it's all attitude. Positive attitude certainly helps, but I've never, ever seen it so consistently slow.

    All that aside, I agree that it's all about checks and balances, what goes up must come down. I agree with Paris, there will be a lot of positive changes from all of this, and a lot of lessons learned about living beyond your means. But I do hate to see people hurting, especially my friends that have worked hard to build small businesses that are taking a hit right now.

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    It seems as if everytime we have a Republican in office money goes down the drain and a Democrat has to come in and fix everything. (no offense to any elephants in SW, just mho.) I'd prefer that we just have a cleansing period since I don't see the bailout helping in the long term.

    If Mcain gets elected, dies, and Palin takes over, I'm moving to New Zeland or Canada. No one ever bothers them. I despise Palin. She an Mcain are both ignorant to what is going on with the middle and lower class. Him because he's rich (thanks Cindy) and her because she admitidly is new to the Washington game. I couldn't take it if our country was in the hands of a naive person because she will become a puppent for the party she belongs to, just like Bush. Although, Bush must be cumming in his pants thinking about all the money he's getting from the oil industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    I'm not worried at all. We are on the verge of turning a corner in our society. Things don't feel great right now, because everywhere you turn people are freaking out, but the green energy revolution is right around the corner.

    Remember, it is always darkest before the dawn!
    I really liked that response it's so true. I'll start thinking positively as much as a can, because you're right it's always darkest before the dawn.

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    Yeah I just hope it doesn't get even more darker before the dawn comes out.
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    People need to stay calm and hang on to their stocks and investments. In a few years, their value will be back up again. People will only lose money if they panic and sell for less than they paid.

    My house now appraises for $13000 less than I owe on it, but it is only a problem for me if I try to sell it. If I just keep making the payment, eventually it will again be worth more than I owe.

    Things are bad, but they will not stay bad.

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