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    Default I fucking hate asshole floor hosts.

    You girls would not believe what happened to me last night.

    First of all, my club was very very slow. We had about 40 girls and at 2:30am it was DEAD. Finally, a group of men came in. I went over and sat with a very nice, relaxed guy in the group. I tell him I have to go onstage and I will be right back.

    I get back and an old blond was there, but I left my drink and cigarettes there so I went back to retrieve them. The floor host comes back and asks to talk to me.

    He pulls me aside and tells me "Do not go to that table. I have girls I want to send over there, so leave them alone." WTF. I go back anyway and tell the guy that I'm sorry but the floor host has essentially told me to go kick rocks. The customer says if the floor host comes back, he will tell him that he wants me to stay.

    So, the host comes back again, pulls me away, and rips me a new asshole right there on the floor. I tell him the customer told me to stay. He says he doesn't care, he wants HIS girls to be there. Basically the girls that tip upwards of 30%.

    Immediately after I give in, he sends the old blond back, and then takes the whole group to VIP.

    FUCK THAT. All they do is escort us to the VIP room, no services after that, so I dont think I should have to tip them 30%. Hell when I lived in Atlanta, I never had to tip ANY bouncers.

    I called my manager and he is looking into it. But it seriously hurt my feelings.

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    That is not cool. Is it mandatory to tip those guys? If not, they wouldn't be seeing a damn dime from me because they screwed me out of money. There are bouncers at my club that try to pull the same shit-a customer sees me on stage, comes to VIP to request me for a CR, and the host will actually try to talk him out of going with me in favor of a girl who tips better. Or, the host will try to tell me that he recommended me (trying to get me to split my earnings with him because he "hooked me up"), when in reality the customer chose me himself with no suggestion from the host whatsoever. Of course, I tell management immediately-I'm tired of guys trying to screw with my money.

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    They are NOT supposed to do that. Fuck that shit. I would've told the bouncer that if there's a problem go get the manager. I had a friend at Sapphire who had this happen to her. I told her to talk to Lee G. She did and he told her that the Floor Hosts are NOT allowed to do that and he was going to have a talk with him. Seriously, this shit is happening all too much lately and frankly I think it is quite the bad business ethic. If a guy likes YOU and wants YOU to stay, stay. The floor host doesn't pay your bills, the customers do and we all know the saying, "the customer is always right". However, that saying doesn't always apply, but for this situation it does. I'm a bitch when it comes to this sort of thing. I've been doing this way too long to let anyone tell me shit, especially if the cutomer WANTS me. And if the manager is going to side with the floor host, then I don't want to work for a club like that. Seriously, Vegas clubs need to learn how to run shit properly.

    I'm sorry this happened to you. I can honestly say, that this has never happened to me in my eight years out here, but I know hella people who have and it really pisses me off, cuz it just ain't right. If I were a custie and I was stuck with a girl who was pushed upon me, I would probably never go back to that club again and I would also tell all my friends to go to a different club. Word of mouth is a very powerful thing, if only those who were above us in authority would realize that, things would be so much easier. I really hope your manager does something about this.

    If I can wrack my brain, I think the host who did that to my friend ended up leaving or getting fired not long after that happened too. So, there is hope.

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    Default Re: I fucking hate asshole floor hosts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockell View Post
    That is not cool. Is it mandatory to tip those guys? If not, they wouldn't be seeing a damn dime from me because they screwed me out of money. There are bouncers at my club that try to pull the same shit-a customer sees me on stage, comes to VIP to request me for a CR, and the host will actually try to talk him out of going with me in favor of a girl who tips better. Or, the host will try to tell me that he recommended me (trying to get me to split my earnings with him because he "hooked me up"), when in reality the customer chose me himself with no suggestion from the host whatsoever. Of course, I tell management immediately-I'm tired of guys trying to screw with my money.
    Nope, not mandatory, but it may as well be. They take "their girls" upstairs to VIP, and take groups in the back VIP entrance so us girls on the floor don't even see the customers.

    It's sickening to me that last night I left with NOT ONE DOLLAR and some girl who splits her earnings left with a grand.

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    Next time if this happens again, tell the guy that if he really likes you, then he should tell the other girl that he IS NOT PAYING FOR HER. The girl will leave if she knows the guy isn't going to pay her. Make sure he says this in front of her and the bouncer if he's there. That's what I would do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    It's sickening to me that last night I left with NOT ONE DOLLAR and some girl who splits her earnings left with a grand.
    I totally feel ya......There are tons of girls that split their earnings with the bouncers where I work. I think that they are suckers. For example, an hour VIP costs the customer $400, dancers get $150 (40 PERCENT!!!), and in best case scenario, they get a $200 tip. Out of that, they tip the host who hooked them up $100-$150, so out of everything the customer spent for their time and hard work they are keeping a whopping 33 PERCENT!!!! Sorry, but I would rather not do the damn VIP than work my ass off fending off groping, drunk assholes and give up 66 percent of the money to men who did absolutely nothing to earn it. I will find my own customers and keep my money, thank you very much. However, when hosts try to take those customers that I hustled fair and square and try to get them to go with the idiots who they pimp out there is hell to pay.

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    Mediocrity, what club is this? That is unacceptable. He can't tell you who you can talk to, he can't prevent you from making money, and he certainly shouldn't confront you out on the floor like that! Speak with your managers about it....
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    ^What Sophia said.
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    I wish there was an "auto-like" setting that I could just have applied to all of your posts Sophia....

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    Default Re: I fucking hate asshole floor hosts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Mediocrity, what club is this? That is unacceptable. He can't tell you who you can talk to, he can't prevent you from making money, and he certainly shouldn't confront you out on the floor like that! Speak with your managers about it....
    BaddaBing Men's Club in LV at the intersection of Tropicana and Polaris.

    Oh, and I called my manager this afternoon. He does seem genuinely upset about it.
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    They do the same shit at my club. The manager is in on it too.

    When I was with a customer sat night the manager came over and was like "Is everything alright?" giving me the evil eye. The guy loved me and was like "yea! great". Manager looks at me again then walks away. Then I got the guy to buy me out. The manager gets a cut on the $500 he pays towards the club on that. They did it the weekend before. I got yelled at by a bouncer not to go upstairs. At the time i was PISSED but now that I know more maybe he was protecting me because girls were doing very naughty things up there.

    Im looking at Sat night 2 ways. He was an ass to do that. BUT maybe now he will see I can make the club money and stop cock blocking me. I also tipped the host even tho he didnt do a damn thing for me in the hopes that hell start sending me to VIP. I guess Im a sucker but Id rather have $700 out of $1000 than nothing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh View Post
    They do the same shit at my club. The manager is in on it too.

    When I was with a customer sat night the manager came over and was like "Is everything alright?" giving me the evil eye. The guy loved me and was like "yea! great". Manager looks at me again then walks away. Then I got the guy to buy me out. The manager gets a cut on the $500 he pays towards the club on that. They did it the weekend before. I got yelled at by a bouncer not to go upstairs. At the time i was PISSED but now that I know more maybe he was protecting me because girls were doing very naughty things up there.

    Im looking at Sat night 2 ways. He was an ass to do that. BUT maybe now he will see I can make the club money and stop cock blocking me. I also tipped the host even tho he didnt do a damn thing for me in the hopes that hell start sending me to VIP. I guess Im a sucker but Id rather have $700/$1000 than nothing....

    I think the shit is just sick and wrong. Bad ethics. It really made me feel sub-par.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    I think the shit is just sick and wrong. Bad ethics. It really made me feel sub-par.
    Agree. But after almost OMG - eight! years at this Ive learned to play the game in order to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh View Post
    Agree. But after almost OMG - eight! years at this Ive learned to play the game in order to win.
    It's been 7 for me as well. But I have had a really tough time going from being a top earner where you didnt have to bribe anyone, to having to bribe people to make any money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    It's been 7 for me as well. But I have had a really tough time going from being a top earner where you didnt have to bribe anyone, to having to bribe people to make any money.
    Yup. I remember when I didnt have to either. When i worked in Sacramento there was no such thing as a host much less a lounge/nice VIP. I was a (if not THE) top earner. Now Im elsewhere - larger club - but it has more options and I can make money here that wasn't even possible in the old place. Gotta take the good with the bad.

    I know it sucks but its the way things go. Its just how things work. The options really are to suck it up and give a cut - knowing that you'll make the $$$ or if you are unable to do that - just do your thing and talk shit about the hosts every chance you get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh View Post
    I guess Im a sucker but Id rather have $700 out of $1000 than nothing....
    But would you accept $330 out of $1000 than nothing? Especially when YOU did all the work? I mean, $300 is still good money, but it makes me sick to know that the club/bouncers are getting the other $700 for next to nothing.
    Sucks that your manager is in on it, though...

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    This is why I hate the tip out system. we end up having to pay more and more and more just to not get totally shafted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockell View Post
    But would you accept $330 out of $1000 than nothing? Especially when YOU did all the work? I mean, $300 is still good money, but it makes me sick to know that the club/bouncers are getting the other $700 for next to nothing.
    Sucks that your manager is in on it, though...
    In that case no. I would not do all that work for only a few hundred... Id stick to floor dances. I guess it depends on the club and prices, tip out, etc.

    At my club I sell a 1hr lounge its $670. I get $400. I also have the guy tip the host $100 and me $100 and I tip the host $40 so he makes 20%. So, for an hour Im getting $460 out of the $870 the guy spends. This is if the guy isnt some cheap untipping ass whereas Id tip the host more and get less because of small tips.

    ^^^ This is different than VIP tho. Our club has lots of different areas, sections so its hard to compare to how other clubs work.

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    There's no question that the way they have treated you is completely inappropriate. However, there's a small chance that he will be let go of his postition, or even reprimanded considering other girls/the club are still making money. As we all know, generally the dollar comes first, rules, ethics, ect. are secondary.

    That being said, is there any way that you may be able to get on better terms with him? Since their is a slight chance that the club is going to get rid of him, continuing to butt heads with him is going to make it increasingly harder to make money. Perhaps tip him out generously even one time. Smile when you see him, ask how his night is going, maybe even mention that you don't like that you guys have gone off on a bad note-"you'd like for things to be better". This isn't about being a sweetheart, it's a fucking hustle.


    There a few girls that I work with that are convinced that I tip bouncers a large percentage of what I make, consistently. That's absolutely untrue. However, I have on rare occasion here and there given them a very decent amount in compensation when they have helped me upsell VIP rooms. Since I am very generous some of the time, they are usually willing to help me most of the time-or at the very least, they won't interfere with my money.

    This specific floor host seems like a complete ass, and there's a chance there will be no resolution to this issue in your favor. I think it's worth a try though. If you ever start at a new club, please keep these suggestions in mind. Even just being personable and talking to them when it's very slow may put you at a serious advantage if they take a liking to your personality. Good luck!

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    Call me crazy but I could give a shit about being one of "thier girls". Just on priciple I refuse to give some asshole in a suit a percentage of my hard earned money . I can do well without a floor hosts help. I've found that even when I used to try and play this game, as a woman of color, I was often not even being brought to VIP customers that were not black.They pocket that money but there is no gurantee, its not like they sign a contract. I think it makes it hard when more and more girls start doing this because then it becomes expected.I just refuse to hand over my money in the hopes of being brought to a big spending customer. The level of extortion in this biz just makes me sick.

    You clock me in (which is your job) you expect a tip, you redeem dance dollars (which is your job) you expect a tip, you are a housemom who's stuff I dont even touch, you expect a tip, you show a customre to an open seat he could have sat down in without any help, you want a tip. Now, someone helping me to upsell, or pointing me in the direction of money will get a generous tip every time but I feel its gotten a little ridiculous. End Rant

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    he's a floor host and not the manager right???after you sat back down and he wanted to talk to you again i would have just ignored him. especially if the guy that you were sitting with wanted you there. he was just causing unneccesary drama in a club. guys come in the club to relax, not to put up with bs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure View Post
    Call me crazy but I could give a shit about being one of "thier girls". Just on priciple I refuse to give some asshole in a suit a percentage of my hard earned money . I can do well without a floor hosts help. I've found that even when I used to try and play this game, as a woman of color, I was often not even being brought to VIP customers that were not black.They pocket that money but there is no gurantee, its not like they sign a contract. I think it makes it hard when more and more girls start doing this because then it becomes expected.I just refuse to hand over my money in the hopes of being brought to a big spending customer. The level of extortion in this biz just makes me sick.

    You clock me in (which is your job) you expect a tip, you redeem dance dollars (which is your job) you expect a tip, you are a housemom who's stuff I dont even touch, you expect a tip, you show a customre to an open seat he could have sat down in without any help, you want a tip. Now, someone helping me to upsell, or pointing me in the direction of money will get a generous tip every time but I feel its gotten a little ridiculous. End Rant
    I agree with you 100%. And let me remind everyone, the hosts do NOT help me "upsell". They have certain girls gathered in VIP and when someone buys a package or tells them specifically what they want, they already have a pool of girls.

    Even if I sell my own VIP, which I do 99% or the time, barring a fellow dancer has pulled me in, all they do is walk me to my booth, and tell me when my time's up. They don't sell bottles, they dont provide any service like dance dollars. My waitress does that. I always tell the waitress that if she helps me out, I will tip her, and also not to worry if the guy is not tipping her, because I certainly will.

    I have way more empathy for waitresses because they, like us, make the majority of their income from tips. The floor hosts get a salary. I think it's BS to try and be favoured and kiss ass with money to someone who gets a paycheck, when I dont.
    I'm one of those people that likes to come in, do their job, stay under the radar, and go home. I like to do my own thing and not stand out in a negative or positive way.

    I am thinking about going to another club though. Unless your one of "their girls" at my club, the money is so up and down you can barely budget.

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    were you working at penthouse? lots of older chicks there.

    yeah, i'm sure the mgr. was gettin' right on it . i hate to say this but in vegas, you're just a number. if you don't want to work there, they don't care. there are more girls coming in. there is a LOT of politics out here for sure.

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    I haven't read all the responses but I'm sorry that happened to you. If that dumb ass wanted to make money, common sense should have told him to leave you the hell alone so you could make your money off the customer you had been sitting with. This is just my opinion, but if the money is good in your club, be sure to tip a different floor host 30%. That way, he'll hear about it and he'll know why you refuse to tip his rotten ass!

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