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    Ladies, it amazes me sometimes when dancers have to ask for tips on how to hustle. It all seems so elementary. It's attitude. Classic example: I was at a club and a dancer came on stage who was the least good-looking in terms of classic beauty. Attractive in her own way, yes, but a rung or two below the other dancers. Yet she owned me. Her eye contact pulled me right in. She did seductive moves just for me. When I told her I admired her tush, she smiled and worked it out in a most alluring way. Of course I tipped her anytime she held out her garter. Whenever she walked away to receive a tip from one of the other guys at the rail, she whispered, "I'll be right back, sweetheart." Of course I'm sure she said the exact same thing to those other guys, but it didn't matter. Come back she did, and performed more moves that made me melt. It's not that she was a great dancer; it was her attitude. she made me feel as if her chief want in life was to take me in the back and have her way with me. Of course it was fantasy, and I knew it, but she made it convincing. I ended up spending about twice as much with her as I had planned. So you see, it isn't that hard to make a good living as a dancer.

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    men are not easy. most of them are still "smart" when they drunk.

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    It sounds like you are a rare individual in a strip club. Misogyny runs rampant in strip clubs and dancers must walk a fine line to convince that customer that although he wants attention from the stripper, he resents having to "pay for it".

    Thank you for being one of the good ones. Way too often the customers are trying to rob the strippers in one way or another, as if strippers were not worthy of an honest days pay for an honest days work because that work has sexual connotations.


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    case in point:
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=126654

    This was the very next post below yours that I was browsing, BTW.


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    Quote Originally Posted by adoringfan View Post
    So you see, it isn't that hard to make a good living as a dancer.
    hahahahahahaha
    so u are telling us how to do our job and telling us it's easy at the same time.

    get off your friggin soap box.

    seriously i make great money as a stripper and i dont need some jerk coming on this, a dancer support site and telling me how to work!!!

    whatever......
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    hahahahahahaha
    so u are telling us how to do our job and telling us it's easy at the same time.

    get off your friggin soap box.

    seriously i make great money as a stripper and i dont need some jerk coming on this, a dancer support site and telling me how to work!!!

    whatever......
    Your hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xhighheelslavex View Post
    Your hot.
    Take out the dollars and prove it, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    case in point:
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=126654

    This was the very next post below yours that I was browsing, BTW.
    Males be forewarned: this link goes to Ladies Only. Do Not Post a Reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    hahahahahahaha
    so u are telling us how to do our job and telling us it's easy at the same time.

    get off your friggin soap box.

    seriously i make great money as a stripper and i dont need some jerk coming on this, a dancer support site and telling me how to work!!!

    whatever......
    You know, I think you didn't understand what he was saying. Of course he doesn't know your job. He only knows how he responds to it. And from his standpoint, being an easy customer and thinking maybe other guys are easy too, it looks easy to him. Well, of course not too many customers are like him. Further, it isn't easy. But he's not a dancer and doesn't know. Finally he wasn't here to insult you. And really, you know this already.

    So why do you need to have this toxic attitude against guys asking simple questions on SW? After all, this is the place for customers to ask questions. And this is the place for dancers to help educate them. Not show them an attitude that is not becoming your profession.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Thank you for that, threlayer. I find that in many dancers there is a layer of hostility that lives very close to the surface and comes out at the slightest provocation. It is indeed very unbecoming of the profession, in my opinion; it keeps me away from clubs at times. Maybe the reason for it is the generally toxic or at best love-hate relationship between strippers and customers. Maybe it's a reaction to having dealt with too many jerks at work. Or maybe it's a reaction to feeling that society looks down on the profession. Whatever the case, for me it's off-putting to know this attitude is there. So often on this site a person who asks question or makes a comment with no ill intention gets flamed by someone who for whatever reason takes offense. So unnecessary and so hurtful.

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    I understand you are trying to help,but can you understand that its annoying to us to have someone who has never done our job tell us how to do it AND tell us its easy when it definitely is NOT???

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    ^^ I didn't get the feeling that he was trying to tell 'you' (meaning dancers) how to do it. Nor did I get the feeling that he was telling 'you' how easy it is for 'you' to make money. But I feel he was trying to express how easy it was 'you' to capture his emotions. Essentially it was a compliment from him, IMO.

    I don't mean to defend him so much as to complain generally about the quick-to-be-incensed attitude here at too easily imagined put-downs. This isn't the first time I've done that, nor the first person to do so.

    Not every one of us guys are jerks, though many are. Also not every one of you dancers are jerks, though many are also. (This is one reason I've stopped going to clubs for a while. Not much fun out there anymore. It's one thing I have learned here and noted in local clubs too.)
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adoringfan View Post
    Thank you for that, threlayer. I find that in many dancers there is a layer of hostility that lives very close to the surface and comes out at the slightest provocation. It is indeed very unbecoming of the profession, in my opinion; it keeps me away from clubs at times. Maybe the reason for it is the generally toxic or at best love-hate relationship between strippers and customers. Maybe it's a reaction to having dealt with too many jerks at work. Or maybe it's a reaction to feeling that society looks down on the profession. Whatever the case, for me it's off-putting to know this attitude is there. So often on this site a person who asks question or makes a comment with no ill intention gets flamed by someone who for whatever reason takes offense. So unnecessary and so hurtful.
    your original post comes across as "i don't know what the big deal is, your job is really easy. if you have to 'think about it' you must be an idiot"

    so that would be why it puts us on the defense.

    you also have to realize that we hear this, or a variation of it, pretty much every time we work. often we hear it from customers who haven't been tipping and won't spend any money regardless.

    we get told all the time:
    "man you guys have it so easy"
    "if i were a girl I'D do this"
    "all you do is get naked and make tons of money. why WOULDN'T you?"

    etc. etc. etc. and then often by the same guy are told:

    "oh i don't get dances. i'm not 'that guy'"
    "you just want my money"
    "i'm not a sucker"
    "i'd rather take you on a real date"

    alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the time dude.
    all the time.

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    and i wanted to add:

    just because -you- spent money on her and appreciated her skills (and thank you for that) doesn't mean every guy does.

    i've had quite the occasion where after a lengthy dance session the customer will say something to me like "you must bank" or "you must make all the money here". in my head i'm thinking "no, actually you're the only guy whos bought dances all day and yesterday i didn't even do one".

    and ditto what other girls said about assholes. there really are a -lot- of guys who play the "you can't get my money. i'm better than that" game, often while being verbally abusive.

    i posted just a few weeks ago in the thread "stupid customer comments" about a guy who approached me after my stage show to tell me how much he loved it. he went on and on about how i was the best dancer he'd seen and etc.

    i tried very tactfully, with a big smile, to suggest that maybe he (or anyone for that matter, since no one did) should have tipped me then. after a minute or so of this he pretty much YELLED at me saying something like "i just wanted to give you a compliment and all you want is my fucking money" and he called me a bitch.

    and i'd like to note, in case you're wondering, that i was in no way shape or form rude or demanding when i brought up tipping.

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    In my experience every business (in your case independent contractor likely) needs to educate your potential customer. It's a part of the sales system. This is whether it's a physician, a car dealer, a dress shop, a computer store or repair shop, the IRS, you as a potential employee, or your state legislator. Everyone has something to sell and needs to explain how your system works to a customer and why they need it. Yes, you can assume that everyone knows how your business works to buy a lapdance or even a dress, but really not everyone does.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    I guess my point had less to do with the job being "easy" than with how huge a difference attitude makes; the stuff dancers can do that will bring a man under her spell that have little to do with looks, clothes, etc. It's not that dancing is easy, it's that men are. I guess the closing sentence in my post, in retrospect, was over the line, ill considered. I would say the same about the harsher responses. Sometimes a little slack goes a long way.

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    So you see, it isn't that hard to make a good living as a dancer.
    That was the questionable line. I also at first long ago thought that it was be fairly easy if all customers were like me, which I well know they aren't. But it's still a job and the club people and law enforcement issues were what I didn't know about then. Now I know that at best it is not easy.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    some men are easy but without being a dancer u dont know what the typical bullshit that we deal with every night is.

    guys come in with expectations that are often unrealistic, they want the most they can get for the least amount of money, they try to touch etc. i dont even want to list all of the shit i put up with in an average night because it's been discussed on SW before.

    even if this is the customer conversation section, many of us won't appreciate being told it is easy to make money as a dancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adoringfan View Post
    Ladies, it amazes me sometimes when dancers have to ask for tips on how to hustle. It all seems so elementary. It's attitude. Classic example: I was at a club and a dancer came on stage who was the least good-looking in terms of classic beauty. Attractive in her own way, yes, but a rung or two below the other dancers. Yet she owned me. Her eye contact pulled me right in. She did seductive moves just for me. When I told her I admired her tush, she smiled and worked it out in a most alluring way. Of course I tipped her anytime she held out her garter. Whenever she walked away to receive a tip from one of the other guys at the rail, she whispered, "I'll be right back, sweetheart." Of course I'm sure she said the exact same thing to those other guys, but it didn't matter. Come back she did, and performed more moves that made me melt. It's not that she was a great dancer; it was her attitude. she made me feel as if her chief want in life was to take me in the back and have her way with me. Of course it was fantasy, and I knew it, but she made it convincing. I ended up spending about twice as much with her as I had planned. So you see, it isn't that hard to make a good living as a dancer.
    I also take it you're a new stripclub customer because believe me once you've been going for awhile you'll see that some customers put dancers thru poor hell

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    If dancers were robotic automatrons that :

    1. Didn't have aches and pains, catch colds, or incurred injuries...
    2. Didn't have families at home to deal with (many of whom don't know of their job, or don't approve if they do)...
    3. Didn't have to deal with patrons who used them as an outlet for their axe to grind with the world...

    ....then I'm sure they could turn their happy side on with the flick of a switch, (and this thread might make sense).

    But we're dealing with human beings here, and you know how that goes. Sometimes a gal is just having a bad night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post

    guys come in with expectations that are often unrealistic, they want the most they can get for the least amount of money,
    That is called business, if Ford won't deal Chevy will; just don't fall in love with a particular car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    That is called business, if Ford won't deal Chevy will; just don't fall in love with a particular car.
    really i call it a tight ass personally. i really enjoy the customers who come to see me who couldn't care less about their money.
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    Some of the most effortlessly beautiful, kind, intelligent, successful, motivated, driven and ridiculously hilarious women that I have ever met have been dancers. I've met the best friends that I've ever had in this industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    really i call it a tight ass personally. i really enjoy the customers who come to see me who couldn't care less about their money.
    Hey, what are you doing? Fords and Chevys don't talk...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    really i call it a tight ass personally. i really enjoy the customers who come to see me who couldn't care less about their money.
    Really? Wow, how shocking... I really like when customers don't care about the quality work I do, and just go ahead and pay me too. That's basically what you're saying. Redundant.

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    Thats not what shes saying. Most of us prefer customers who just enjoy themselves without obsessing over cost or trying to bargain us down or compare us to cheap cars.

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