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    When we went (my wife and I) it was her suggestion and we asked to be placed kinda outa of the way. We both had a great time. And yes we both went up to tip after a little encouragement/enticing from the dancers. It was not what either of us expected and I also got to see another side of my wife that I didn't know existed. Overall it was great and the dancers there made us both feel relaxed. We only saw one other couple in there and that women was also acting very respectable to the dancers. But I could see how it would be irritating to have someone come in and act any way but respectful.
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    That's the issue, most of these women are "forced" to go, or either they have something to prove and get so trashed that they interfere with our ( the house girls ) money making process.

    Such as my lovely experience last night, where on stage I had to literally pry my head out of some drunk chicks grip as she was trying to lay a lip lock on me. Her friend just stood at the stage and wiggled after she tried to put her leg on my shoulder. All this happened while their male escort watched in indulgent amusement.

    Fun.


    If they don't want to be there, they should not.

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    It all kind of sucks, because I'd imagine that 90% of the women coming into the club wouldn't even understand why it's problematic for them to act a certain way. Unless you're in the business (and therefore understand that strippers are all there to make MONEY and you'd better not get in our way), then it appears to be just a bunch of scantily-clad women walking around having fun.

    From the outside, they're just like "why can't I do the same thing since I'm paying to be here?" I totally get why they think they can crawl onstage and grope us. We're often so good at our jobs that we make it seem like it's one big party. The guidelines aren't explicit. I'm not saying it's right for them to do this, obviously: but I think it's understandable.

    Still pisses me off though.

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    What you are saying is that my wife shouldn't have been in the club even if she was tipping? I don't believe we were taking away from any of the dancers making any money. If anything I thought we were tipping very well. And like I said in my earlier post we were asked to be placed kinda out of the way. Am I understanding this wrong? The dancers did not make us feel like we shouldn't have been there. They were frequenting our table often.
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    It all kind of sucks, because I'd imagine that 90% of the women coming into the club wouldn't even understand why it's problematic for them to act a certain way. Unless you're in the business (and therefore understand that strippers are all there to make MONEY and you'd better not get in our way), then it appears to be just a bunch of scantily-clad women walking around having fun.

    From the outside, they're just like "why can't I do the same thing since I'm paying to be here?" I totally get why they think they can crawl onstage and grope us. We're often so good at our jobs that we make it seem like it's one big party. The guidelines aren't explicit. I'm not saying it's right for them to do this, obviously: but I think it's understandable.

    Still pisses me off though.

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    ^ No, no! Not at all!

    I was merely making the point that strip club etiquette isn't always intuitive for female customers. I wasn't reacting to anything you wrote at all--just a reaction to this thread in general. And an empathetic one at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper View Post
    ^I only meant that I would only go to a male show if forced. .
    This isn't just apples and oranges...it's more like apples and tweezers.

    "Straight" women can enjoy other women at a much much much higher (like, more than half) than "straight" men can enjoy other men (like, almost zero). No correlation or comparison at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy08 View Post
    I was on stage tonight and had four women sitting at the tip rail. I did some pole tricks (the girls always seem to appreciate it more than the boys) and come crawling over, give them a big smile, and say hello.

    -None- of them would answer me. In fact, one of them shot me this smug look...the others just sat and gave me this blank stare. Ouch. Do I have something on my face???
    That has happened to me!!! They just look at you like you're from outer space, it's so freakin weird! The worst are the young ones that walk up to the stage with a filthy one dollar bill in their mouth. Come on, thats nasty!
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    You can say that again.. not just on here but men in general. Guys are so damn lame, the only way they can halfway make up for it is by opening their wallets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    This isn't just apples and oranges...it's more like apples and tweezers.

    "Straight" women can enjoy other women at a much much much higher (like, more than half) than "straight" men can enjoy other men (like, almost zero). No correlation or comparison at all.

    Though I'd argue that this has a lot to do with social pressures for men to be uber straight. (Obviously evolutionary/competitive pressures are at play in both sexes, too.) I know a lot of very straight men who will admit to appreciating other men once their guards are down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    This isn't just apples and oranges...it's more like apples and tweezers.

    "Straight" women can enjoy other women at a much much much higher (like, more than half) than "straight" men can enjoy other men (like, almost zero). No correlation or comparison at all.
    You are taking that sentence out of the context of my post. It's purpose was merely to say under what circumstances I would be at a male show at all. My comparison between my reaction to a male show and a woman's reaction to a female show was of course a loose one. Men and women don't think and feel identically. Women are more comfortable looking at and interacting physically with one another than men are. Fact remians that they won't enjoy or perceive a strip show put on for men the same way men do. Add to that the competitiveness between women when it comes to sex appeal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Though I'd argue that this has a lot to do with social pressures for men to be uber straight. (Obviously evolutionary/competitive pressures are at play in both sexes, too.) I know a lot of very straight men who will admit to appreciating other men once their guards are down.
    Appreciating another man's physique isn't the same as being turned on by it. Men admire other men for all kinds of things, but it's not sexual. I dont think women do either. It's just more acceptable for women to be physical with one another. Still not sexual. A woman will comment that another woman is beauctiful but the reason they do that and men don't is that women are judeged more on their appearance by both sexes than men are.
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    ^ Yes. I was agreeing with you. Mere physical appreciation without desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    ^ Yes. I was agreeing with you. Mere physical appreciation without desire.
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    ^ Many men do have thoughts like this. Partially evolutionary, partially as a social reaction. I believe that humans have the capacity to appreciate each other, however.

    One might even argue that you wondering about who would win in a contest is a form of respect and appreciation for another man's body. In a 100% straight way. (Seriously)

    Shrugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    ^ Yes. I was agreeing with you. Mere physical appreciation without desire.
    Okay. Agreeing with what though? I responded before that because it sounded like you were saying men were only straight because of social pressure, though it was ambiguous.

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    ^ Oh, nonono. I was saying men could appreciate men's bodies without have any physical desire associated with it. i.e. men only ACT like they aren't appreciating other men because they fear their appreciation will be interpreted as interest.

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    It's pretty sad that it's okay for two completely straight women to practically fuck each other (like on stage in a SC), but 100% straight men can't even hug in public without getting looks from people. Obviously that's an exaggeration, but still...

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    ^Not for us it isn't. Personally I don't like lesbian shows either.
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    ^ It's obviously arguable. You see my point though, right?

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    ^Not sure. It's okay for women to hug but not men? Women hug because they are mroe emotional in that way. Men sometimes do hug, like after football matches. Men hug in a manly way and women in a girly way. It's not actually okay for women to simulate sex in public, it's just taken a different way to if men do it because we know that women are not as easily physically, sexually stimulated. It will attract looks more easily than two men hugging will. It's also not actually socially acceptable behaviour, just not taken as being real sexual behaviour. So contact between women isn't as suspect. Men are turned on physically, so two guys simulating sex is going to look sus.

    This topic only came up at all because Everyman misread one of my posts. But lets go with it - moderator!
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    ^ I was more just pointing out the difference in social acceptability levels of female/female vs. male/male physical interactions. The former is definitely more lenient as far as judgment goes...whereas the implicit 'rules' of male homosociality are much more rigid (generally).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper View Post
    ...... because we know that women are not as easily physically, sexually stimulated......
    WAY too stereotyping of an entire gender.

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    ^ Agreed. See: Masters-Johnson studies. (equality of sexual experience, with further emphasis on women's unique abilities to have multiple orgasms, come without touching themselves, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lopaw View Post
    WAY too stereotyping of an entire gender.
    I said "not as easily", not "not at all". Maybe not generally true, but true for most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    ^ Agreed. See: Masters-Johnson studies. (equality of sexual experience, with further emphasis on women's unique abilities to have multiple orgasms, come without touching themselves, etc.)
    A woman having her clitoris rubbed is not the same thing as a guy looking at or touching a woman. I'd also say that the woman would often have to be having sexually stimulating thoughts along with the physical stimulation.
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    ^^^^ And your philosophy is based on.....what exactly? Studies? Your own experiences? It certainly does not represent the majority of women I know. Or are we lesbians supposedly wired differently from straight women?

    Deep thoughts......

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    Quote Originally Posted by lopaw View Post
    ^^^^ And your philosophy is based on.....what exactly? Studies? Your own experiences? It certainly does not represent the majority of women I know. Or are we lesbians supposedly wired differently from straight women?

    Deep thoughts......
    I haven't conducted studies of my own, it's just what I've heard. I'm not a woman, so I can't know from direct experience and I don't swap stories with other women. But since Charlie61 referenced Masters and Johnson, I thought I was entitled.

    What are you saying exactly? Remeber that men are very easily turned on. I was just making a comparison. I don't see what lesbians have to do with it, since I was not implying that men or women get turned on by each other.
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