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    Can someone please provide Sarah Palin a dictionary so she will realize the biggest Socialist in this race is her.

    Alaska receives more earmarked federal dollars per capita than any other state and her claim to fame as governor is putting a 40% windfall profit tax on oil companies and redistributing it via government checks back to the people. She says Alaskans own the resources of Alaska collectively. Seems she did learn something from living so close to Russia.

    As much as Mel had hoped for the implosion of the Democratic Party at the convention, it is the Republican Party that is poised on the edge of the cliff.

    Rovian Republicans continue to pander to the social conservative base through fear ads while true Republicans of small government and fiscal responsibility are distancing themselves, with some notable endorsements for Obama. McCains campaign is a directional mess.

    Traditional red states are tilting blue as one of the most liberal presidential candidates tops the ticket.

    Anyone care to share ideas to help save our friends, the Republicans? Please hurry!

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    Sarah Palin is a joke as a vice pres pick. She was probably one of the worst VP picks in history. What she has done in Alaska is much much closer to Socialism than Obama wanting to roll back the Bush tax cuts.

    The current Republicans are done. And that's a very good ting. If they can go back to the Republicans of yore with the main focus being small government, low taxes and fiscal conservatism, then I can respect them. Hell, I may even vote for one. I'm not so hardcore Leftie Liberal that I can't recognize a good Republican when one is presented.

    I can't wait to tell my grandchildren that yes, I was there and I participated in the Election of 2008. They'll look at me all wide-eyed and go, "Really Grandma? Was it really as crazy and funny and sad as people say?" And I will sigh and say, "Yes children, it was. It was glorious."
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    Sarah Palin is a joke as a vice pres pick. She was probably one of the worst VP picks in history. What she has done in Alaska is much much closer to Socialism than Obama wanting to roll back the Bush tax cuts.

    The current Republicans are done. And that's a very good ting. If they can go back to the Republicans of yore with the main focus being small government, low taxes and fiscal conservatism, then I can respect them. Hell, I may even vote for one. I'm not so hardcore Leftie Liberal that I can't recognize a good Republican when one is presented.

    I can't wait to tell my grandchildren that yes, I was there and I participated in the Election of 2008. They'll look at me all wide-eyed and go, "Really Grandma? Was it really as crazy and funny and sad as people say?" And I will sigh and say, "Yes children, it was. It was glorious."

    Hmmm. Funny but that's how the Dems felt about the elections of 1974, 1976 and 1992 and how the Republicans felt after 1980 and 1994.

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    Yeah, I know but seriously, this has been one of the most insane campaigns in history. A young black guy with a crazy ass name is beating an old war veteran in the race for the Pres. . I mean really - what the hell is going on. I'd like to think that since all this has happened since I turned 18 in 2000 and cast my vote that year that all this is my doing. Yeah, I'm the catalyst for all of this shit. I run this country!


    Yay for delusions...
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    It's high time for a change; we've been red since 1981 except for 8 years. Time enough for them to get complacent and try lots of non-red things. Time for a big change.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Luscious View Post
    The current Republicans are done. And that's a very good ting. If they can go back to the Republicans of yore with the main focus being small government, low taxes and fiscal conservatism, then I can respect them. Hell, I may even vote for one. I'm not so hardcore Leftie Liberal that I can't recognize a good Republican when one is presented.
    Their not gone, and they never will be. People will forget about Bush, and things will be fine. Especially after the next several years of poor economy under a total Democratic leadership.

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    yeah, because those years of total republican leadership have been doing so much for america...

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    ^^^ you may want to revisit the actual state of America between 2002 and 2006 ... which excludes much of the impact of 9/11 and also excludes the impact ot the 2006 democratic congressional majorities ...

    (snip)"the U.S. economy cruised along in the early 2000s, even while hitting some big rocks: a stock market crash, terrorist attacks, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, corporate accounting scandals, widespread hurricane destruction, surging energy prices, sliding real estate values.

    After a mild recession in March-November 2001, the U.S. economy resumed expanding, an average 2.9 percent during 2002-2006, while price inflation, unemployment, and interest rates remained relatively low.

    By various measures the United States remains the world's most productive, competitive, and influential large economy. Yet more and more the U.S. economy is itself influenced by dynamic economies overseas. And it faces challenges both at home and abroad.

    But what do we mean by the U.S. economy anyway?


    A Number of Numbers to Consider
    For better or worse, the U.S. economy is at or near the top in a number of international rankings:

    No. 1 in economic output, called gross domestic product, amounting to $13.13 trillion in 2006. With less than 5 percent of the world's population, at about 302 million, the United States accounts, by different measures, for between 20 and 30 percent of world GDP. The GDP of just one state, California, amounting to $1.5 trillion in 2006, exceeded the GDP in all but about eight countries that year.
    No. 1 in total imports, some $2.2 trillion in 2006, about twice that for the country with the next highest level, Germany.
    No. 2 in exports of goods, $1 trillion in 2006, behind only Germany, although China is predicted to surpass the United States in 2007. No. 1 in exports of services, $422 billion in 2006.
    No. 1 trade deficit, $758.5 billion in 2006, many times that of any other country.
    No. 2 in maritime container traffic in 2006, behind only China.
    No. 1 in external debt, estimated at more than $10 trillion mid-2006.
    No. 1 destination for foreign investment, an inflow of more than $1.5 trillion in 2006.
    No. 1 for inflow of foreign direct investment—businesses and real estate—about $177.3 billion in 2006. No. 1 destination for foreign direct investment by the world's 100 biggest multinational corporations, including corporations from developing countries.
    No. 5 in holdings of reserve assets in 2005 at $188.3 billion, 4 percent of the world's share, behind Japan and China (each with 18 percent), Taiwan and South Korea, and just ahead of Russia. No. 15 in reserves of foreign exchange and gold, about $69 billion in mid-2006.
    No. 1 source of remittances to Latin America and the Caribbean, about three-fourths of the total $62 billion in 2006, from people who migrated out of those regions to find work abroad.
    No. 1 in petroleum consumption, about 20.6 million barrels a day in 2006, and No. 1 in crude oil imports, more than 10 million barrels a day.
    No. 3 in ease of doing business in 2007, after Singapore and New Zealand.
    No. 20 of 163, tied with Belgium and Chile, in Transparency International's 2006 index measuring perceptions about corruption (lowest-numbered economies are viewed as least corrupt)."(snip)

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    My point here of course is that elections have consequences. The restoration of democratic majorities in 2006 arguably produced a pronounced negative effect on the US economy i.e. high food prices, high oil prices, higher labor costs, higher regulatory compliance costs etc. While I'm no particular fan of GWB ( or any other republican who was responsible for instituting a new entitlement program !) it is disingenuous to ignore the role of democrats in congress regarding today's economic difficulties / price inflation / rising unemployment etc.


    It's high time for a change; we've been red since 1981 except for 8 years. Time enough for them to get complacent and try lots of non-red things. Time for a big change
    This is precisely the reason that I support an Obama victory. In that way, and only in that way i.e. a totally democratic government with a free hand to implement democratic policies, will the American people be able to look back in 2012 and judge the effectiveness of those democratic policies without a republican being present upon which the 'blame' can be shifted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    This is precisely the reason that I support an Obama victory. In that way, and only in that way i.e. a totally democratic government with a free hand to implement democratic policies, will the American people be able to look back in 2012 and judge the effectiveness of those democratic policies without a republican being present upon which the 'blame' can be shifted.
    With the gov't pouring money into the financial institutions the housing prices will stabilize, which is what they believe needs to be the first step in recovery. Even if this takes 18 mos., Obama will still be early into his 2nd year. When the economy does turn Dems will be free to trumpet their unified vision as the solution and now you're looking at 2016. Even if the growth comes late and is moderate, considering the mood of the country currently, it may be enough.

    The only way it happens in '12 is if the economy stagnates for 4 years, in which case you will probably be watching from Costa Rica already.

    The Republicans need to return leadership to the true Replicans and make the social conservatives understand the tail no longer wags the dog.

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    With the gov't pouring money into the financial institutions the housing prices will stabilize, which is what they believe needs to be the first step in recovery. Even if this takes 18 mos., Obama will still be early into his 2nd year
    ultimately, due to realistic supply versus demand equations, the only way this can happen in a positive way is if Obama and the democratic congress decides that all Americans are 'entitled' to own a home ... which of course also means that 30% of those homes must be paid for by someone besides the low income 'homeowner'. I simply can't see the American 'rich' standing idly by while there taxes are increased to make this possible.

    A more likely option to restore 'apparent' real estate values (and thus bail out underwater mortgages, MBS etc. is for Obama and the democratic congress to fully back a plan to massively inflate the US dollar. This would of course cause massive price increases for energy, food and everything imported ... but would not really hurt either the poor (whose gov't benefits are indexed to inflation) or the very rich (who can actually profit from US dollar inflation via foreign investments). This this option IS a very real possibility ... even though restoring a $250k average home price would also mean a $50k average new car price, a $20 lap dance buying two gallons of gasoline etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Ernie View Post
    The Republicans need to return leadership to the true Replicans and make the social conservatives understand the tail no longer wags the dog.
    I agree. The social conservatives have ruined the Republican name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Ernie View Post
    With the gov't pouring money into the financial institutions the housing prices will stabilize, which is what they believe needs to be the first step in recovery. Even if this takes 18 mos., Obama will still be early into his 2nd year. When the economy does turn Dems will be free to trumpet their unified vision as the solution and now you're looking at 2016. Even if the growth comes late and is moderate, considering the mood of the country currently, it may be enough.

    The only way it happens in '12 is if the economy stagnates for 4 years, in which case you will probably be watching from Costa Rica already.

    The Republicans need to return leadership to the true Replicans and make the social conservatives understand the tail no longer wags the dog.
    That's going to be easier said than done. The Republicans let the party be hijacked by the Christers and neo-cons forcing many moderates into the ranks of the Independents and a few into defecting to the Democrats. To a man, all the Republican contenders all spouted the "right to life" anti-gay rhetoric ( Romney switched back after governing as a pro-choice moderate). Only Rudy remained pro-choice and look how well he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ...The restoration of democratic majorities in 2006 arguably produced a pronounced negative effect on the US economy i.e. high food prices, high oil prices, higher labor costs, higher regulatory compliance costs etc. ..it is disingenuous to ignore the role of democrats in congress regarding today's economic difficulties / price inflation / rising unemployment etc.

    This is precisely the reason that I support an Obama victory. In that way, and only in that way i.e. a totally democratic government with a free hand to implement democratic policies, will the American people be able to look back in 2012 and judge the effectiveness of those democratic policies without a republican being present upon which the 'blame' can be shifted.
    There is no doubt that many people had a hand in initiating this recession and necessary bail-out. But those in charge of the administration and their de-regulation policies had by far the most potential control and thus the most blame, other than the sketchy finance house executives and the exploitative, ignorant public.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ...is if Obama and the democratic congress decides that all Americans are 'entitled' to own a home ... which of course also means that 30% of those homes must be paid for by someone besides the low income 'homeowner'...

    A more likely option to restore 'apparent' real estate values (and thus bail out underwater mortgages, MBS etc.) is for Obama and the democratic congress to fully back a plan to massively inflate the US dollar. This would of course cause massive price increases for energy, food and everything imported ... but would not really hurt either the poor (whose gov't benefits are indexed to inflation) or the very rich (who can actually profit from US dollar inflation via foreign investments). This this option IS a very real possibility ... even though restoring a $250k average home price would also mean a $50k average new car price, a $20 lap dance buying two gallons of gasoline etc.
    Giving away of housing to the poor will never happen, nor would Obama or most any other Democrat want that. S/He would be recalled first. In case you haven't been watching the Bush administration has already massively inflated the US Dollar, especially versus other world currencies. And if this bailout doesn't work as theoretically planned, we will have yet another bout of inflation after the recession. And this is blamable on the current non-reactive administration. NOT the Democrats.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    To be honest, we won't know thew whole story, nor will we be able to see the real causes for years. The dust needs to settle and those involved need to be long gone before we can be objective about this whole mess. Until then, there is no point going back and forth about it because the wound is still too fresh. We just have to make sure we don't make the same mistakes again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Ernie View Post
    ...As much as Mel had hoped for the implosion of the Democratic Party at the convention, it is the Republican Party that is poised on the edge of the cliff.
    ...Traditional red states are tilting blue as one of the most liberal presidential candidates tops the ticket.
    Anyone care to share ideas to help save our friends, the Republicans? Please hurry!
    You said it!!

    My thoughts are/have been that McCain should have admitted that Bush made terrible mistakes regarding starting and running the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But that's where we are now and we need to deal with the reality of it to get the berst out of it for ourselves and the 2 nations. He should have distanced himself from Bush all along and stated that the Republican party needs to get back to its historical conservative underpinnings of minimizing government interferences and the costs of government. Then he would have satisfied the more conservative Reps and to an to extent the Dems. He would then have to convince/educate them about his plans for the wars and taxes and government intereference in private lives. I believe he would have been far better off, and I would have continued my respect for him. Instead he was bought out by the Bush lovers and had nothing left but to downgrade the Dems. The consequences are that he could have gotten a better running mate as well. Just my opinion, but it's not uneducated.

    As it is, he now faces defeat pretty certainly. Let's just hope that the same idiots that convinced McCain to abandon his principles also abandon their direction about running Palin in 2012.
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    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Palin will not run in 2012. She will not have enough support. That's a pipe dream some of the right wing crazies (specifically those crazy cat ladies) are trying to get going but it's never going to happen. I think we'll see a change in the Republicans after this election is over.
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    palin can't run in 2012. she will be too old by 2010, and she'll be facing an uphill battle for re-election as gov if she tries to fall back on that.

    too old you say? but she's not even 50!

    ah, but in 2010 (when the floating of nomination picks will start) she will be a grandmother openly, with bristol's kid being a toddler. and in politics, you can't play the cute/sexy card if you're a grandmother. she would have to somehow acquire gravitas and matronly authority to run. and she'd have to do it in about 2 years.

    she cannot coast on her looks for more than another couple years, ironically because bristol got knocked up at an inconvenient time for mommy's political career, which will burst her milf-credentials into flames once that baby is toddler-age.

    sooner and palin could have tried transitioning into srsgrammaofauthority-- later and palin would have looked ok for a 2012 run.

    palin's incompetence and blatant lying would not count against her with repubs if she wasn't costing mccain a couple points (which she currently is). but all this video footage of her sounding dumb and clueless means she can't be 'reborn' as someone wonkish and together (as your usual older lady politician, basically). and attempting to be a 'gramma-ilf' will just fall flat because the very social conservatives that like her now will expect her to get her stuff together as a grandmother and won't go for that cutesy crap from her in 2-3 years.

    i worry about much in life, but not a palin 2012 run. or even a palin 2010 re-election in alaska. she pissed off the republican machine there, *and* fired up the democrats, so nobody's going to line up to help her win-- she backstabbed a little too swiftly and a little too eagerly, before bothering to make sure she had solid support.

    she has scotched her own political career, and not so much from attaching herself to mccain as just...being dumb and too greedy for power. she wanted the presidency NOW because SHE WANTED IT and that lack of patience is what'll nuke her chances of any further political office.

    she is vain, but lazy. you can see that in her looks-- trim enough to still look well in clothing, but not toned-- she only works out *just enough*, and not a second more. likewise with her political career-- jumping the gun and not thinking through her actions and then expecting to cute her way out.

    won't work when she's a gramma.

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    THAT'S SEXIST!! YOU ARE A SEXIST!!

    J/K, those are some good points.
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    my guess is that Sarah Palin winds up as a talk show commentator on Fox News 2 years from now !

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    Like Fox News needs more crazy.
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    Faux News is her target.

    .......

    Palin isn't crazy; she is just caught up in conservative sloganizing and IMO stupid thinking.
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    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    my guess is that Sarah Palin winds up as a talk show commentator on Fox News 2 years from now !
    Ooooo ! another Ashley Banfield.

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    ^^ She can report on Russian affairs from her porch too. Think of the timeliness and convenience.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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