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    Hey everyone,

    I started working a new club last month, and since I have been there I've yet to have a night where I've made over about $120 bucks (for an 8 hour shift)
    When I first started there, I was given a print out of the fees and I was STUNNED. The manager (who is also a sort-of a friend of mine, I knew him before he started managing the place) assured me that I would be o.k., that I was gonna make so much money it wouldn't matter. Now, I know better than to really believe that but I still thought I would give the place a try.....ya never know, right?

    I have come to the realization after a month of being theree that I am working to make someone else rich......and I am suffering. I just can't go back again. I feel as if I am cheating myself and being someone's fool.
    Here's an example of what I mean....last night, I had around $50-$60 cash at closing and left with around $15......and I was lucky to leave with that! Thank god the two door guys and DJ that were working were cool and let me keep my last $15 dollars (which I technically owed them) If the rules were really enforced last night, I would have left OWING the club around $14. They let me slide, thank god. But don't get me wrong, it's not something they do all the time.

    This just doesn't seem right Why should I work all night long to give everything I make to everyone else?? These are hard times, and I understand that the club needs to make money to stay open, but I feel that the fees should be reduced. Especially given the fact that the place is just not busy enough. Last night 2 hours went by without a single customer in the building, and that's not the first time I've seen it happen in this past month.

    Tell me if any of you think these fees are astounding: (keep in mind, very small club in a relatively small town that is rarely busy)

    $25 house fee PLUS
    $3 of every $10 floor dance and $6 of every $20 VIP dance goes to the club.

    Manager tip-out: $12 minimum
    DJ tip out: $7 minimum
    Waitress/Bartender tip out: $2 minimum, to each(That's on top of their own tips, plus minimum wage) Usually 1 bartender on weeknights, 2 on weekends, and 2 waitresses on weekends.
    Bouncer tip out :$5 each, minimum (usually there are 4 door guys on Fri/Sat and two on weeknights) ALSO, they get paid $7.25 an hour.


    SO, right off the bat, you are automatically obligated to owing the club anywhere from $56-$72 dollars when you sign in. THEN, you get taxed on your dances, too.
    Now this is a place where the average girl is making around $100-$200 dollars a night, maybe. Of course, there are a handful of girls that have regulars and make alot more but there are those girls in every club.

    So, say you have exactly $100 dollars on you at the end of the night. Say it's a Saturday...$72 dollars of that is gone to house fee and tip-out. That leaves you with $28 dollars. Then, depending on how many dances you did, probably the rest of that will get sucked up as well. So, that leaves you with... $0, and maybe even owing the club.
    It seems to me that the way this fee system is set up COMPLETELY fucks over the dancers.

    Does anyone else think this is crazy?

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    yeah you should go somewhere else thats absurd. i wouldnt stay,travel out

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    Find a new club their fees are retarted.

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    That is fucking retarded!

    Why would you have to tip each waitress/bartender?
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    That is rediculous! I am in Texas, managers have screwed with me at the end of a bad night for not giving them enough (for litterally doing nothing). Here if you are an indepentent contractor, you are not obligated to tip anyone. Expected; but not required. I pay to work, so if I have a horrible night I am keeping the little I earned myself!

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    Oh my gosh..I am waitressing right now, making far more and working for far less hours...I would look elsewhere
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    Wow, girl.... why are you still there?? Run!!!!

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    Last night was the "straw that broke the camel's back" so to speak. I'm not going back. I gave it a chance, longer than I probably should have, but whatever. I'm just gonna cut my losses and hope that any day now one of these "real" jobs I have applied for comes through. I have two choices: be unemployed, broke and looking for work, or wasting my time, energy and getting naked for nothing, still be broke, and still be looking for work. I can definitely deal without the latter....
    There is no reason I should be stripping for a 6-8 hour shift for $15. There is no reason anyone should do any job for 6-8 hours and make $15 for that matter. It's sacrelidge. I mean I know the economy sucks and all, the elections, blah blah blah....but FUCK I mean the line has to be drawn somewhere.

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    Yeah, when I went into the ranch and asked about tipouts and fees my jaw almost dropped. I mean, if there was money to be made there, sure those fees would be fine. But anytime I've ever stopped by there are less than 5 customers or a bunch of kiddies throwing a couples 1's on the tiprail....how can they expect such big tipouts with taht kind of turnout?

    The CS has been unusually slow this month....I'm going to try Tens this week. I'll let you know how it goes.

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    wow, where is this? a club in my city charges $95 house fee, that still seems steep
    These days I like to count my money. I like to wash it delicately and iron it. Sometimes I dry it with some bounty to make it all nice and cuddly. I love my money... did I say that out loud?

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    That's astronomical. I'm sorry. Definitely time to move on to somewhere else.
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    Get outta there! You deserve better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saphire123456 View Post
    wow, where is this? a club in my city charges $95 house fee, that still seems steep
    Arizona.

    Really, no fees are ridiculous if the money you make matches it. It becomes ridiculous when the fees are that high and business is so slow most people make just enough to cover them.
    Even a $95 house fee is fine, as long as everyone is making bank all the time, you get paid well for dances and don't have to give a cut of the dances on top of the fee.

    The fees at this place are more than $95, (once you give a cut of your dances) and we are are only getting paid $7 a floor dance and $14 for a VIP.

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    Ridiculous. I worked at a club like that for about a month. Not only did I have to pay a $50 house, I had to split my dance fees (50/50), and pay everyone $5-$10. One night I made $300 but after all the tipouts walked out with $125. Never went back. Clubs that charge that kind of ridiculous fees are there to make the dancer broke while they get rich off the girls. The dancer should be keeping most of her money, since she was the one who did the work.
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    Yeah, for the amount of money you're making and the earning potential (which doesn't sound like anything great), those fees are ridiculous. The fact you have to tip out so much AND they take money out of your dances is crazy!!! I would find another club if I were you, this one is not worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    One night I made $300 but after all the tipouts walked out with $125

    That sounds about what you would walk with at this club out of $300. Maybe even less.

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    Thats what I hate about AZ more than anything. Out there, it seems like the worse business gets, the more staff members have their hands out, and the more the fees increase.

    Ever danced at PinUps in Huachuca City? It's a tiny tiny dive, but it can get busy on weekends since it's right by a military base.

    Also, if you're white, thats a big advantage in El Paso if you appeal to Mexican guys.

    Try checking those cities out if you don't find something better locally.

    It DISGUSTS me that some clubowners are that callous, especially considering how tough times are.

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    They keep charging it because girls keep paying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh View Post
    They keep charging it because girls keep paying it.
    That true because ain't no way in hell I gonna make $300 and go home with $125 that a bunch of BS.

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    Well at least your not working at a club whose tipout is $400/ thurs-sat and $350 mon-wed.

    I still wonder how the girls who work at Arnie's here in Chicago are faring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bustybabe312 View Post
    Well at least your not working at a club whose tipout is $400/ thurs-sat and $350 mon-wed.

    I still wonder how the girls who work at Arnie's here in Chicago are faring.
    I know all about Arnie's. They are paying that money out because many if not all are doing extras. They always get busted for hooking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by venusace138 View Post
    Out there, it seems like the worse business gets, the more staff members have their hands out, and the more the fees increase.
    True. What really grinds my gears is that these people all get an hourly wage. At least if it's a dead night, they are still guaranteed SOMETHING. There are nights where I would be very thankful for 8$ an hour, or even min. wage!! NO paycheck for us dancers....it's do or die. Our livelihood is at stake depending on business. I wish people would understand that.

    Quote Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh View Post
    They keep charging it because girls keep paying it.
    .....and true once again. I've noticed that the average age of dancers here in AZ just keeps getting younger and younger, and I'd say a good 75% who are just there to party and don't give a shit about how much mony they make.
    That's one thing that irked me about that place....so many 18-19 year olds who do the job to impress a boyfriend, be "cool" or whatever. A few even still lived with mommy and daddy so they have no concept of what it's like to have utilities, rent, etc. to pay.
    The management FULLY takes advantage of that, no only at that club but I have seen it at many others, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherryBomb954 View Post
    True. What really grinds my gears is that these people all get an hourly wage. At least if it's a dead night, they are still guaranteed SOMETHING. There are nights where I would be very thankful for 8$ an hour, or even min. wage!! NO paycheck for us dancers....it's do or die. Our livelihood is at stake depending on business. I wish people would understand that.
    At this point, I would just try to find a regular job if I were you. Why get naked and bust your ass for the same amount you would be making working somewhere else? At least you would have a guaranteed paycheck and nobody to worry about tipping out. Maybe you should try for a bartending job at your club, it seems like they make out much better than the dancers, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherryBomb954 View Post
    True. What really grinds my gears is that these people all get an hourly wage. At least if it's a dead night, they are still guaranteed SOMETHING. There are nights where I would be very thankful for 8$ an hour, or even min. wage!! NO paycheck for us dancers....it's do or die. Our livelihood is at stake depending on business. I wish people would understand that.

    .....and true once again. I've noticed that the average age of dancers here in AZ just keeps getting younger and younger, and I'd say a good 75% who are just there to party and don't give a shit about how much money they make.
    That's one thing that irked me about that place....so many 18-19 year olds who do the job to impress a boyfriend, be "cool" or whatever. A few even still lived with mommy and daddy so they have no concept of what it's like to have utilities, rent, etc. to pay.
    The management FULLY takes advantage of that, no only at that club but I have seen it at many others, too.
    ^That is SOOOOOO true. I started to feel that way about the clubs here in the UK too. Too many young girls doing it for some sort of kudos, to buy a pair of UGG boots and to party not actually having to pay bills and take a professional approach to the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    I know all about Arnie's. They are paying that money out because many if not all are doing extras. They always get busted for hooking.

    I don't think that there's that much doing extras in one night, with the competition, to not only make that house fee plus a profit. Some girls don't even make the house fee. Then, once arrears are up to $500 they can't work there until it's paid.

    I know a bj there can go for as low as $40. My buddy's fav girl there charges him that. I also know that for $80 a guy can get the ass.

    So...a girl would have to turn 5-10 tricks alone just to earn back the house fees.

    Yanno? I didn't know Arnie's racist ass had died earlier this year. So his daughter has taken over, raised the fees on the girls and it tickles me that she prances around the bar carrying a fake Louis bag.

    I feel for the women who have to work there. Imo, if the girls got smart, they all wouldn't show up for work for a couple of weeks to make those fees go down. No girls= no money. But they don't really have a choice to not work there.

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