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    So girls i need tips how exactly to up my game.

    First of all my club is reasonably small, and only has one private dance booth. (Which is technically a air dance) I do give good dances, the men I do give dance to actually buy more from me and this hardly happens with most of the girls. I feel quite proud of this because there is a terrible routine that a girl cannot stay in the booth back to back even when a custy got two dance tickets on the get go.

    With that said. I do know i got what it takes to keep them happy, always sort of hint he’ll get it special (although he might not be)- Smile, eye contact and varying the routine. But my problem is getting them to buy a dance in the first place-at my club the guys tend to like to play the game, and often like to talk more than anything. (If we had VIP, I just know I’ll live in there with one or two custy.)

    Anyways. There is a line on the ground that I cannot cross. I can’t touch him, or anything. And they usually know this and often feel like they don’t really wanna bother since it’s the same as the stage. With me, despite my stage dances being imaginative, i save some tricks for privates. But i feel like a right stuck-up bitch if i go on about how i can actually prove him wrong, and explain i can do this, i can to that. I don’t want to boast. I tend to say. ‘Take a look for yourself. I don’t lie when i say i like to make it worth your money.’ Sort of thing, but they bloody hell would have none of it-they want details.

    This means most guys, don’t buy dances too much. Now there is sexy girl at work who seems to laterally leave nothing behind, she gets off stage and rampages the floor for guys. Convinces everyone whose a candidate to buy a dance with her and her only (tells him so even.) All in one walk around. So when it gets to my turn, the guys already got his dance from her, or is still sitting there waiting for his turn with his ticket. Meaning he will not be having none with me.

    I know i can be just as good and even better but i’m finding it hard doing this without looking like i’m being her, and utterly transparent about just wanting his money. I want to make my money but leave a good impression so the guys who get dances, will get several. She doesn’t often succeed when comes to resales.

    SO what should I say when i ask for a dance? At my club is terribly hard to reword anything, without saying private dance. Cause, well, honestly i almost look stupid. So is there a way of offering dances without saying it and with saying it that promps up my chances. (i've read around but most of the things works in a bigger club, where not all the guys can hear your speech and catch on that your using it on all of them.)

    When he ask what i can do, what should i say other than what i already do?

    And, er. How do i avoid having this girl sucking all the money before anyone else gets a chance? She’s always done this and everyone has settled for her being the star. I’m Ok with that, but I’m not just going lay down and roll over because that’s just how it’s always been. I thought , maybe coming in first so I’m on stage first, and doing exactly what she does before she gets a chance. Only it’s just not my thing. So how can i meet this in the middle?

    Also. I do know a few guys who a bit of chatter boxes, and do have the money to pay. Although no VIP available, I’m sure they will dish the money for me to simply stand with them the entire night or several hours. The club is ok with this, if the guy wants to pay-up he can and they have no percentage for this as they do with laterally everything else. So I can name my price, what price is reasonable and sounds like a bargain for him. how can I actualy offer this without seeming like i want to starve his bulging wallet.

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    wow, that is complicated situation. I cant believe you only have ONE place to giv e dances. thats crazy. I honestly would try to find a larger club. Thats just me though.
    You could just tell custies, look I really like talking to you, but I have to make some money. If you dont want dances, you are more then welcome to pay me for my time. I would say it differently than that, but you get the point. lol
    In this situation, she may be getting more action than you, but you are probably making more moeny than she is, and who really cares about anything else.

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    As far as getting them so pay to sit, I agree with Lady above OR I will say something like "We could have our own little VIP right here! For $X, I'm yours until you say when, sweetheart!"

    So far as getting an actual dance, when I worked in an air dance club I always said, when asked about the difference, "Well, it's definitely more up close and personal. I bet we could get nice and cozy back there. Plus, a lady never reveals all her secrets! Just come see what's in store for you. You'll leave smiling ear to ear!"
    I used that because it SOUNDS suggestive but insinuates NOTHING. You have promised no sexual contact, and if he assumes, tough shit.

    I CANNOT say this enough. ALWAYS get your money up front. If he complains, you already have it in your hands, and it's like sorry pal, no refunds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deini View Post
    So girls i need tips how exactly to up my game.

    First of all my club is reasonably small, and only has one private dance booth. (Which is technically a air dance) I do give good dances, the men I do give dance to actually buy more from me and this hardly happens with most of the girls. I feel quite proud of this because there is a terrible routine that a girl cannot stay in the booth back to back even when a custy got two dance tickets on the get go.

    With that said. I do know i got what it takes to keep them happy, always sort of hint he’ll get it special (although he might not be)- Smile, eye contact and varying the routine. But my problem is getting them to buy a dance in the first place-at my club the guys tend to like to play the game, and often like to talk more than anything. (If we had VIP, I just know I’ll live in there with one or two custy.)

    Anyways. There is a line on the ground that I cannot cross. I can’t touch him, or anything. And they usually know this and often feel like they don’t really wanna bother since it’s the same as the stage. With me, despite my stage dances being imaginative, i save some tricks for privates. But i feel like a right stuck-up bitch if i go on about how i can actually prove him wrong, and explain i can do this, i can to that. I don’t want to boast. I tend to say. ‘Take a look for yourself. I don’t lie when i say i like to make it worth your money.’ Sort of thing, but they bloody hell would have none of it-they want details.

    This means most guys, don’t buy dances too much. Now there is sexy girl at work who seems to laterally leave nothing behind, she gets off stage and rampages the floor for guys. Convinces everyone whose a candidate to buy a dance with her and her only (tells him so even.) All in one walk around. So when it gets to my turn, the guys already got his dance from her, or is still sitting there waiting for his turn with his ticket. Meaning he will not be having none with me.

    I know i can be just as good and even better but i’m finding it hard doing this without looking like i’m being her, and utterly transparent about just wanting his money. I want to make my money but leave a good impression so the guys who get dances, will get several. She doesn’t often succeed when comes to resales.

    SO what should I say when i ask for a dance? At my club is terribly hard to reword anything, without saying private dance. Cause, well, honestly i almost look stupid. So is there a way of offering dances without saying it and with saying it that promps up my chances. (i've read around but most of the things works in a bigger club, where not all the guys can hear your speech and catch on that your using it on all of them.)

    When he ask what i can do, what should i say other than what i already do?

    And, er. How do i avoid having this girl sucking all the money before anyone else gets a chance? She’s always done this and everyone has settled for her being the star. I’m Ok with that, but I’m not just going lay down and roll over because that’s just how it’s always been. I thought , maybe coming in first so I’m on stage first, and doing exactly what she does before she gets a chance. Only it’s just not my thing. So how can i meet this in the middle?

    Also. I do know a few guys who a bit of chatter boxes, and do have the money to pay. Although no VIP available, I’m sure they will dish the money for me to simply stand with them the entire night or several hours. The club is ok with this, if the guy wants to pay-up he can and they have no percentage for this as they do with laterally everything else. So I can name my price, what price is reasonable and sounds like a bargain for him. how can I actualy offer this without seeming like i want to starve his bulging wallet.
    You cant touch the customer??? not even on the shoulder??? how do you make any money??? Where do you live? We have a few clubs around here like that and the girls there dont sell any dances because no one wants to pay for an air dance;. They just make their money (very very little money) on stage. What exactly do you do? Floorwork???

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    Default Re: how to hustle at a pain in the ass club.

    [quote=pinkpuff;1752317]You cant touch the customer??? not even on the shoulder??? how do you make any money??? Where do you live? We have a few clubs around here like that and the girls there dont sell any dances because no one wants to pay for an air dance;. They just make their money (very very little money) on stage. What exactly do you do? Floorwork???[/quote

    Its the same here in Missouri. No contact unless its a juice bar.

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    Wow. I have the same problem at my club. There is a girl that does the same thing but as your situation, she doesn't get any repeats as well. So my advice to you is do not stop your hustle on account of hers. The guys will see her as overconfident and if they sit and talk with you they will definitely like your personality more, therefore leaving you with all the private dance tickets!!!!! Hope that helps.

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    If you've got a girl monopolizing the dances, then you need to take a different tact. Don't ask for a dance right away. Are you able to pull up a chair and sit down with the custy? Talk? Ask: How you been?
    I'm aware that this takes time, and time is money, but if the other girl is literally monopolizing the custys, then you aren't making money anyway. This strategy creates a better connection with a customer than any regular "want to dance?"
    This may make the other girl seem cold and stand-offish, and you warm and friendly. Even if the custy does go with the other girl, he may come back to you, either that night or on another night.
    Other than that, I don't know what you could do in this club.

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    If someone else is doing something, and gets good results from it (such as the girl that you are talking about in your OP). You should realize that doing those same things will give you the same results. This is true with everything!

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    I don't understand how that will give her better results if the girl that is doing the act isn't even getting money for it. That means she needs to get on the ball and step her game up.

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    This is just a shitty situation. I suggest moving somewhere with more than one dance booth, That may not solve ALL of your problems, but it'll solve the one about waiting for the booth, or doing multiple dances in a row.

    If you live in London, it sounds like this type of dance is pretty normal, which means the sell shouldn't be too hard. It isn't easy, but it should be doable.

    Where ARE you located? Is this sort of dance rule the norm in other clubs nearby?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladyteesexy145 View Post
    Wow. I have the same problem at my club. There is a girl that does the same thing but as your situation, she doesn't get any repeats as well. So my advice to you is do not stop your hustle on account of hers. The guys will see her as overconfident and if they sit and talk with you they will definitely like your personality more, therefore leaving you with all the private dance tickets!!!!! Hope that helps.
    Quote Originally Posted by Danielle_4370 View Post
    If you've got a girl monopolizing the dances, then you need to take a different tact. Don't ask for a dance right away. Are you able to pull up a chair and sit down with the custy? Talk? Ask: How you been?
    I'm aware that this takes time, and time is money, but if the other girl is literally monopolizing the custys, then you aren't making money anyway. This strategy creates a better connection with a customer than any regular "want to dance?"
    This may make the other girl seem cold and stand-offish, and you warm and friendly. Even if the custy does go with the other girl, he may come back to you, either that night or on another night.
    Other than that, I don't know what you could do in this club.
    I do all the above actually and already have that reputation. Most of my cuties do come back for more, and one or two who don’t have dances tip well. It’s all good given then realised just what is said above, but these guys can’t come in often and at the moment i do need to make a bit more given i do have to pay some overdue rent.
    But with that said, I already have this down to the T!
    Quote Originally Posted by angelicat View Post
    If someone else is doing something, and gets good results from it (such as the girl that you are talking about in your OP). You should realize that doing those same things will give you the same results. This is true with everything!

    I actually considered this, but have come ot realise that her tactic is not my style, and I tend to like to make a few customers who are a bit more into repeats. So being, say impersonal, is not the way forward at my place. As for say look wise, I can safely say that I am MUCH prettier than her face wise, only she is this stick or a thing with awesome ‘real’ perky boobs. She however seems flawless as I don’t so much-since I’m a more voluptuous girl, (i’m not huge or anything) but I’m not a stick either.

    What i’ve noticed it that men can be right idiots sometimes when it comes to looks. So most of the young guys like her, I mean almost all the guys would want a dance with her view value and when they watch her permanently live in the booth they tend to think she has something more to offer since everyone wants her. I know this because when i myself seemed to live in hte booth for a good day, i did get more dances because they all wanted what the other guys wanted. So when everyone seemly wants her-others make up their minds that she’s the best.

    Quote Originally Posted by Otoki View Post
    This is just a shitty situation. I suggest moving somewhere with more than one dance booth, That may not solve ALL of your problems, but it'll solve the one about waiting for the booth, or doing multiple dances in a row.

    If you live in London, it sounds like this type of dance is pretty normal, which means the sell shouldn't be too hard. It isn't easy, but it should be doable.

    Where ARE you located? Is this sort of dance rule the norm in other clubs nearby?

    Yes I’m in London, and in a general the overall rules at the clubs in the same with exception at other clubs either your up on a podium, or your boobs can at least be inches from his face, or the odd places that is a full on lap dance-if not a bit of touching him. At my place however, the owner is huge in putting up the most ridiculous rules, one which is in the form of a line on the floor about three to four feet away from the custy while he is tucked away in a corner. All you can really do is dance around him, open your legs and roll around on the floor. The view to say the least in not all that.

    Now i have tried other places. But they all sucked and at times i wanted to go home in tears. See my place, despite this girl being who she is, she a decent girl, all the girls here are lovely and with the exception of the owner, the staff is absolutely awesome. I like most of the cuties, and this place is not that far to travel and has the best stage. (in my opinion) So when i weigh the pros and cons of clubs, the other places seem good enough for money but they suck all other ways (laterally) and this place you don’t make bucket loads but you at least don’t have to go home wanting to pull your hair out, just wishing a supper rich guy would tumble in and wash you with money.
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    Anyway I come to the conclusion that Im going to try to look better, much better, and find myself a style that makes me stand out-look like absolutely a million dollars and appeals to all ages and class. (A pin-up look would suit me best. Only i’m struggling to find very good outfits, not tacky ones.) Also-be as i am-but ask a bit more...and er...try o get there first really. With time i guess I’ll get myself a more glam rep and then maybe everyone comes to their senses and realise that they can gain more from me.

    thanks girls. I keep you all updated on my progress.

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    Good luck.

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    decided to move on someplace else.

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    How's it going so far at the new club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deini View Post
    decided to move on someplace else.
    That was a quick change of heart. Hope the new club works out, and keep to your instincts that your hustle has to be something that you're comfortable doing, not just something that is successful for someone else.

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