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    So we will be exporting the 'tin foil hat crowd.' I wonder how many people thought of emigrating when GWB won a second term? Who wants to live in a country where a near majority are non-thinkers? At least I had the foresight to not vote for that bozo in either election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    So we will be exporting the 'tin foil hat crowd.' I wonder how many people thought of emigrating when GWB won a second term? Who wants to live in a country where a near majority are non-thinkers? At least I had the foresight to not vote for that bozo in either election.

    I sure wouldn't miss them much but I am not holding my breathe that they will depart. Most can't afford it and those that can have the ability to work around their issues of complaint. Legally or otherwise. Some will indeed go but I predict the numbers will be very, very low.

    In fact, I doubt our Melonie will go anywhere either. Like many others with her political leanings I feel she is just expressing a bunch of butt hurt from losing the election. Plenty of Dems did the very same thing in 2004. Nothing new. They will get on with life just like we did. The sooner the better too.

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    Default Re: Why Obama looks like a one-termer.

    no chance ... did you see this recent news story ?



    New York City wants to increase their top state + local income tax rate to 11% ... on top of Obama wanting to increase the top federal income tax rate to 39.6%. Of course New York's state governor is fighting this because he can 'see' the likely exodus of comparatively high earners from New York that will result (even though he is legally blind).

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    Default Re: Why Obama looks like a one-termer.

    When you tell us the date of your move, perhaps it will seem slightly less than 100% bullshit, which is what it looks like now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlabtot View Post
    When you tell us the date of your move, perhaps it will seem slightly less than 100% bullshit, which is what it looks like now.
    Or maybe one of those countdown things in her siggy? I bet there are some fun ones made for just this issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    no chance ... did you see this recent news story ?


    Yea, I saw it but I'm sticking with what I said before. Most of you aren't going anywhere just like most of my fellow Dems who were saying similar things back in 2004. Maybe you'll be the exception. Time will tell.
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    Dudes, I'm telling you, Melonie is not going anywhere. She's been saying she's going to move for YEARS now. She loves being pessimistic about the US too much to leave. What could she constantly cut and paste about if she left?!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Luscious View Post
    Dudes, I'm telling you, Melonie is not going anywhere. She's been saying she's going to move for YEARS now. She loves being pessimistic about the US too much to leave. What could she constantly cut and paste about if she left?!.
    Years huh? Oh boy!

    ps- lmfao at the cut and paste comment. Good one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy in the Sky View Post
    I sure wouldn't miss them much but I am not holding my breathe that they will depart. Most can't afford it and those that can have the ability to work around their issues of complaint. Legally or otherwise. Some will indeed go but I predict the numbers will be very, very low.

    In fact, I doubt our Melonie will go anywhere either. Like many others with her political leanings I feel she is just expressing a bunch of butt hurt from losing the election. Plenty of Dems did the very same thing in 2004. Nothing new. They will get on with life just like we did. The sooner the better too.
    Melonie did not lose the election. She has said several times that she voted for Obama. Granted, she didn't do it because she agrees with his policies (quite the opposite, in fact), but nonetheless that's where her vote went.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flickad View Post
    Melonie did not lose the election. She has said several times that she voted for Obama. Granted, she didn't do it because she agrees with his policies (quite the opposite, in fact), but nonetheless that's where her vote went.

    You're correct. I forgot about that part. Opps. Oh well I still think it's about being butt hurt that Dems are going to be in power.

    Many Dems claimed to be leaving in 2004 but I don't know of a signal person who actually left. I think it's going to be the same for the Republicans.

    It's all venting of hot air, imo.

    But as I said before if they want to leave and can I say go for it. Life is short and the world is big wonderful place.

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    ^

    I guess the reason that people are bandying that threat about is that it will equal loss of tax revenue. However, I imagine that the percentage who do leave the country will be so small as to not make a hugely significant dent. There are reasons besides money that people often stay where they were born. Leaving your culture, friends, family is huge, and not a decision most will take based on a tax hike of a few percentage points. I imagine some will hire a good tax lawyer and find ways to wriggle out of paying the increase in real terms, but people earning upwards of 200K have been doing that since the year dot anyways (and being the daughter of a tax lawyer, I should know ).

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    while this is off topic, I will answer ...

    A) I'll be out of the USA by the middle of january. This is the result of the 330 / 35 day IRS rule re foreign income treatment and the fact that I need to make some transactions which will affect 'American' income in 2009.

    B) Tax minimization and cost of living minimization aren't the only reasons I have decided to leave. (hoping I'm actually wrong about this) the other reasons will probably be obvious by next fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    while this is off topic, I will answer ...

    A) I'll be out of the USA by the middle of january. This is the result of the 330 / 35 day IRS rule re foreign income treatment and the fact that I need to make some transactions which will affect 'American' income in 2009.

    B) Tax minimization and cost of living minimization aren't the only reasons I have decided to leave. (hoping I'm actually wrong about this) the other reasons will probably be obvious by next fall.

    I'd be a liar if I didn't say I think you are full of shit BUT if you do follow through send pics!

    The areas you are considering are beautiful and quite interesting. I've visited both and I'd love to live in either place too, maybe not to the extent you are looking at but a 1-5 years sounds pretty nice to me

    If I only had myself to think of I might go for it. But alas I am only one part of a pair and have other people to take into consideration.

    Guess we all better get back to topic now though before Paris comes to spank us for being bad.

    Wait.. Paris is pretty hot so I might like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    while this is off topic, I will answer ...

    A) I'll be out of the USA by the middle of january. This is the result of the 330 / 35 day IRS rule re foreign income treatment and the fact that I need to make some transactions which will affect 'American' income in 2009.

    B) Tax minimization and cost of living minimization aren't the only reasons I have decided to leave. (hoping I'm actually wrong about this) the other reasons will probably be obvious by next fall.
    Sure seems more believable now... so what are these 'other reasons'? Don't be so mysterious... give us your predictions of gloom and doom so we can check back next fall and see whether you should change your nick to Nostradamus.

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    Somehow I think the third world living conditions (generally in more temperate climates) are not all as beautiful as people with money think they will be. It's like 'the grass is greener on ....'

    You have to live in a society likely where ...
    • the educational level of many people you'll be interacting with (car repair etc) makes it difficult to get what you expect,
    • the medical system is going to be pretty basic by our standards,
    • the gendermes will have much more power over monied immigrants with consequentally lower civil rights than they are used to,
    • the church will have a much larger role in everyday life than it has here,
    • the monetary system will have a lot more bumps then here,
    • there will be a lot of corruption in the entire system and bribes will be necessary,
    • the language barrier will be a lot higher than they anticipate,
    • food and cleanliness will have different standards,
    • travel systems will be much less refined than here,
    • but things will be cheaper than here, which is the only advantage I can see, unless they like hot, humid weather year-round.

    If this is not the case, just let us know. Because we'd all like better living conditions than we have now.
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    Because we'd all like better living conditions than we have now
    Actually, it's not about the living conditions that we have now. It's about the living conditions that some are likely to have a year from now !!!

    If you really want my 'gloom and doom' predicition, it goes along the lines of the US gov'ts credit rating being cut sometime next spring after president Obama and democratic super-majorities in congress embark on an unrestrained spending spree of union industry bailouts, democratic state bailouts, and additional unemplolyment / social welfare benefits. This will be followed by foreign lenders finally becoming so disgusted that they will back away from further loans to the USA (a.k.a. back away from future purchases of US treasuries, or even the sale of treasuries they already hold). At that point, the US will find itself insolvent ... leading to either an Argentina-like stiffing of foreign creditors or the wholesale printing of new US dollars. The world's response will be to revalue the US dollar exchange rate to a new level commeasurate with America's future creditworthiness ... at least 30% less than it is today (and possibly 50%). This in turn will cause a near immediate 30% (and possibly 50%) increase in the price of all world market commodities i.e. gasoline, food, anything else imported. With massive price increases, with zero change in (or declining) after-tax earnings, but with far less in the way of available credit to cover the shortfall (unlike last year's use of credit cards to paper over family budget shortfalls), the [email protected]#t will finally hit the fan in regard to the 'unsustainability' of middle class American lifestyles.

    Additionally, for those Americans who are 'lucky' enough to still afford food, gasoline etc. at 30-50% higher US dollar denominated prices, there is also the issue of bankrupt retailers, of distressed banks, and of wary foreign suppliers choosing not to ship goods to the USA for fear that they will not actually be paid ... or fearful that the amount of US dollars they receive in payment will have depreciated versus their 'home' currency between shipment and delivery and actual payment to the point of cancelling out their original profit margin. As such, it is probable that real shortages will start to appear ... particularly shortages of formerly low cost imported food items a la WalMart. Yes there will still be plenty of US grown organic vegetables to go around ... but at three times the former WalMart price for Chinese import vegetables ! This will lead to dilemmas for many US families of buying food versus buying gasoline versus making the rent payment.

    As a result, urban areas are likely to see unprecedented levels of 'civil unrest' as well. And this is likely to happen at the same time that de-facto bankrupt states and large cities will be forced to lay off police officers by the thousands !

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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    Somehow I think the third world living conditions (generally in more temperate climates) are not all as beautiful as people with money think they will be. It's like 'the grass is greener on ....'
    I moved to Panama a few years ago and will try to give some of my perspective to your list:
    • the educational level of many people you'll be interacting with (car repair etc) makes it difficult to get what you expect, Not a huge factor, by and large not service oriented and there is frustration. Once you find competent people not an issue
    • the medical system is going to be pretty basic by our standards, Not true, I find it better. Has a John's Hopkins Medical Center. Costs are about 1/3-1/4 of US. Ins. is $60 per mo. Health care people much more concerned with the patient
    • the gendermes will have much more power over monied immigrants with consequentally lower civil rights than they are used to, Foriegners here areconsidered elite and get to slide on most smaller stuff as long as they're not making trouble
    • the church will have a much larger role in everyday life than it has here, None at all. Legal prostitution, tons of bars, 24 hour nightlife and casinos. Permissive population
    • the monetary system will have a lot more bumps then here, US dollar is the official currency
    • there will be a lot of corruption in the entire system and bribes will be necessary, It's easy to get by and get stuff done sans bribes, but they can be used to speed things up. Contacts carry more wieght as it's a very small country (3 million). If you know the right people (which is easy) pretty much everything is a breeze
    • the language barrier will be a lot higher than they anticipate, Surprisingly there is not more English spoken here as we have been around in big numbers for a long time with the Canal. Pretty easy to get by w/out though. All professional and tourist people speak English
    • food and cleanliness will have different standards, Pretty much 1st world standard with this. Probably because of the US assistance in infrastructure as well as the fact that Panama is a leading financial center and gets alot of business travel
    • travel systems will be much less refined than here, Not sure what is meant by this but pleny of regional travel by plane, boat and bus. Panamanian airline Copa consistently rated one of the best in the world
    • but things will be cheaper than here, which is the only advantage I can see, Very true although electronic items made in the US are slightly more expensive because of import taxes.
    • unless they like hot, humid weather year-round. Panama City does have that. There are tons of great pools in every hotel and most apartment buildings. If it's an issue alot of ex-pats wind up in Boquete in the moutains which is one of the top retirement destinations world wide.
    Here are some pic's that show you're not dealing with the typical 3rd world location.

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    Looks like I was the setup man for your advertisement. LOL
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    Actually, it's not about the living conditions that we have now. It's about the living conditions that some are likely to have a year from now !!!

    If you really want my 'gloom and doom' predicition, it goes along the lines of the US gov'ts credit rating being cut sometime next spring after president Obama and democratic super-majorities in congress embark on an unrestrained spending spree of union industry bailouts, democratic state bailouts, and additional unemplolyment / social welfare benefits. This will be followed by foreign lenders finally becoming so disgusted that they will back away from further loans to the USA (a.k.a. back away from future purchases of US treasuries, or even the sale of treasuries they already hold). At that point, the US will find itself insolvent ... leading to either an Argentina-like stiffing of foreign creditors or the wholesale printing of new US dollars. The world's response will be to revalue the US dollar exchange rate to a new level commeasurate with America's future creditworthiness ... at least 30% less than it is today (and possibly 50%). This in turn will cause a near immediate 30% (and possibly 50%) increase in the price of all world market commodities i.e. gasoline, food, anything else imported. With massive price increases, with zero change in (or declining) after-tax earnings, but with far less in the way of available credit to cover the shortfall (unlike last year's use of credit cards to paper over family budget shortfalls), the [email protected]#t will finally hit the fan in regard to the 'unsustainability' of middle class American lifestyles.

    Additionally, for those Americans who are 'lucky' enough to still afford food, gasoline etc. at 30-50% higher US dollar denominated prices, there is also the issue of bankrupt retailers, of distressed banks, and of wary foreign suppliers choosing not to ship goods to the USA for fear that they will not actually be paid ... or fearful that the amount of US dollars they receive in payment will have depreciated versus their 'home' currency between shipment and delivery and actual payment to the point of cancelling out their original profit margin. As such, it is probable that real shortages will start to appear ... particularly shortages of formerly low cost imported food items a la WalMart. Yes there will still be plenty of US grown organic vegetables to go around ... but at three times the former WalMart price for Chinese import vegetables ! This will lead to dilemmas for many US families of buying food versus buying gasoline versus making the rent payment.

    As a result, urban areas are likely to see unprecedented levels of 'civil unrest' as well. And this is likely to happen at the same time that de-facto bankrupt states and large cities will be forced to lay off police officers by the thousands !

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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    Looks like I was the setup man for your advertisement. LOL
    Not looking to advertise or sell anything, just trying to swap perceptions for facts (at least where Panama is concerned). As for most other 3rd world countries your analysis would be right on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post

    If you really want my 'gloom and doom' predicition, it goes along the lines of the US gov'ts credit rating being cut sometime next spring after president Obama and democratic super-majorities in congress embark on an unrestrained spending spree of union industry bailouts, democratic state bailouts, and additional unemplolyment / social welfare benefits. This will be followed by foreign lenders finally becoming so disgusted that they will back away from further loans to the USA (a.k.a. back away from future purchases of US treasuries, or even the sale of treasuries they already hold). At that point, the US will find itself insolvent ... leading to either an Argentina-like stiffing of foreign creditors or the wholesale printing of new US dollars. The world's response will be to revalue the US dollar exchange rate to a new level commeasurate with America's future creditworthiness ... at least 30% less than it is today (and possibly 50%). This in turn will cause a near immediate 30% (and possibly 50%) increase in the price of all world market commodities i.e. gasoline, food, anything else imported. With massive price increases, with zero change in (or declining) after-tax earnings, but with far less in the way of available credit to cover the shortfall (unlike last year's use of credit cards to paper over family budget shortfalls), the [email protected]#t will finally hit the fan in regard to the 'unsustainability' of middle class American lifestyles.



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    LMFAO! Paranoid much or what? Seriously babe, take off that tin foil hat for awhile and let your brain breathe in some fresh air for a change. Lack of oxygen isn't a good thing for your brain cells

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    Uh Mel. How's your Espanol ?
    Good question. If she is really going I hope it's at least passable. If not, time to invest in a Rosetta Stone program.

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    I believe this prediction is right up Melonie's alley:



    Get Depression 1.0 out of your head right now.

    We are not that people. We are not that population.

    A collapse on the scale we are in danger of right now is unprecedented in all of human history. There is absolutely nothing else to compare it to. This is a strange land we have never before visited.

    I’m going to take you through a tour of this possible future. I intend to scare the living shit out of you in doing so. I do it not of out some perverse glee. I do it to try to wake all of you up to the very real and probable calamity ahead.

    This is some of what we will face. I’m not intending to be comprehensive here. Much more will happen that just this. The longer it continues, the worse it will get. Consider this a glimpse of the opening act.

    1) You have no money. You think you do. What you have in the bank is gone. You need to understand this point first and most of all. Your money became collateral. It’s been loaned out easily over one hundred times, most probably even more. For every dollar you think you have in the bank, there’s probably only a penny or a fraction thereof left that you can claim. What about FDIC insurance? Forget it. It can’t handle every bank account. And that’s what’s happening here: total collapse. All money zeroed out.

    2) Your cash on hand will not go far. Prices will inflate immediately and ferociously. Food will skyrocket most of all. Because everyone needs to eat — and nobody can eat money.

    3) All ATMs will stop working. So that money in the bank you still thought you had? It’s gone. The system is dead. The ATMs were the pulse of the financial circulatory system — and that system has had a fatal heart attack and dropped dead.

    4) The initial stupid glee people will feel over their “liberation” from the system will be gone within the first 48-72 hours. Because everyone will be stuck at home. There’s no longer a job to go to. And all you self-employed people? You’re fired too. There’s no longer any market for what you were selling, so save your energy. You will need it to maintain your very existence.

    5) You will no longer be able to sleep at night. Because of the sound of gunfire. All those people who have already been worse off than you? Hey, they have kids. And those kids need food. And during this time, a gun has become the new ATM card. Withdrawals will initially take place at night. It won’t only be the sound of gunfire keeping you awake, there will be the sirens too. Police sirens. Fire engine sirens. Ambulance sirens. And the sound of burglar alarms and car alarms.

    6) Food will become short. Everything is on a cash-only basis now. You think it’ll be a simple matter of lining up in front a supermarket hours (and it will be hours) before it opens? No. First, most supermarkets will be closed. There’s no staff left. And for the rare supermarket that does open — in the early days — do you think a supermarket manager will be stupid enough to let hundreds of people swarm in all at once? You’ll go in ten at a time. And before you’re allowed in, you’ll be hand-frisked by whatever few staff remains. That gun you brought to keep you safe? It will prevent you from getting food. You’ll be denied admittance. As it is, you’ll pray that a) you’ll get in before they close the doors, and b) that there’s something left to buy. Expect limits on what you can buy — but only after the lucky early ones have grabbed all they can still afford with cash on hand.

    7) Lining up at a supermarket will make you a target. Your presence there will announce that you have cash on you. Expect to be shot for your money. You imagine it’ll be one person with a gun holding you up? Have you ever had the experience of opening up a cabinet in a slum apartment? Swarms of cockroaches run out. The cockroaches of society will likewise swarm out to steal from you. There will be carloads of people attacking the supermarket line. You’ll be lucky enough to get away with your life. You’ll never get that food you planned to get.

    And if you do happen to be one of the lucky ones to get food, expect to never get home with it. If you’re not robbed in the supermarket parking lot on the way to your car, expect to be followed as you drive away. Your car will be rammed and you’ll be overrun by armed thieves who will shoot you first — and they’ll go for your head, so there’s no witness left — and then take your food.

    9) Don’t expect electricity. I’m not saying your lights will be turned off for non-payment. That’s naive. I’m talking about the breakdown of the infrastructure. I’ll coin the term you’ll be hearing in this alternate awful future: micro-terrorism. All of you think terrorism means some madman with a bomb strapped to him. That’s the past. Micro-terrorism is this: you live in an area where your electricity and cable TV and telephone are delivered on old wooden posts? Expect bastards to go out there with chainsaws and take those poles down. This is micro-terrorism. An entire town’s or city’s lights don’t have to go out all at once. Terror can be done neighborhood-by-neighborhood. Hardly any of this will be political. It will be criminal. A population kept off balance is easy prey.

    10) There will be no gasoline. Gasoline, like food, is delivered by truck. And many trucks will never, ever get to their destination. The highways will become overrun with hijackers. At some point, truckers will no longer move goods. What’s the point? Why should a trucker try to go several hundred miles to deliver food or gas when he can’t get either of those at home, for himself and his family?

    11) Police? There aren’t enough police in the entire country to restore order once the rampage begins. In New York City, for example, most of the cops live in the suburbs. Do you think they’ll leave their families in jeopardy to keep order among a population they’ve daily shown contempt and hatred for?

    12) You’ll smell smoke all the time. Something will always be burning somewhere. If it’s not an abandoned home, or a fire accidentally caused by candles (remember, no electricity), or people keeping warm with a fire in a metal barrel (hey, this is winter now, right?), it’ll be an outright act of micro-terrorism. Cars, tires, anything that can set alight. Burn baby burn. Burn it all down will be the sentiment.

    13) There will be curfews. For you. Not for the criminals who will own the night. They have nothing to lose. They never wanted a stake in this country. They never lived by its rules. It’s open season for them to take whatever they want whenever they want.

    14) National Guard? Did you see what happened in New Orleans with Katrina? What’s happened in Houston with Gustav? Those are just two cities. This is now national, every city. You’re on your own. Literally.

    15) You’re isolated. No electricity means no Internet, no TV. And if you don’t have a hand-crank radio, you’ll run out of batteries. You won’t know what reality is because you’ve been cut off from the flow of information. You’ll hear nothing but rumor. And lies. None of it will be good and your daily sense of dread will eventually turn to gut-wrenching panic. You will have no rest. You can’t sleep at night. And you need to also be awake during the day to try to connect with people to see if anyone knows what’s really going on.

    16) Imposters. That guy coming towards you in a cop uniform or National Guard uniform? He’s neither. He took those off of someone he killed. So you’d be fooled into trusting him. You won’t be able to trust anybody.

    Do I need to continue? Is this enough for you to grasp the magnitude of the alternative we face? How many more words must I pour out? This should be enough.

    If this hasn’t scared you, you’re not taking the gravity of the situation seriously.

    And you’ll probably be one of the first to die.



    AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
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    In other words: Boo-motherfucking-hoo

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    Default Re: Why Obama looks like a one-termer.

    ^^^ that is the infamous 'Mad Max' scenario. Even I'm not that pessimistic. However, given what happened in New Orleans during the stressful conditions of hurricane Katrina ( not to mention a totally democrat state and city government ), I can't say that scenario is impossible.

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    Default Re: Why Obama looks like a one-termer.

    Hmmm.

    What does it say when someone believes that the result of an Obama election will turn the US into basically a 3rd World nation and yet they voted for him all while planning to leave the country as soon as he takes office?

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    it 'says' that she's not poor, that she's not 'rich', but that she doesn't want to become 'poor'.

    It says that she has enough faith in the common sense of Average Americans that they will believe their own eyes and their own wallets when the 2012 election rolls around no matter what mainstream media chooses to report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    it 'says' that she's not poor, that she's not 'rich', but that she doesn't want to become 'poor'.

    It says that she has enough faith in the common sense of Average Americans that they will believe their own eyes and their own wallets when the 2012 election rolls around no matter what mainstream media chooses to report.
    Why have faith in the average American in 2012 but not 2008? Did we not believe what we saw around us and felt in our wallets and in terms of national elections decide to 'throw the bums out'?

    What is bugging me here is that you voted for a person you believe will bring about as you called it 'gloom and doom' and thus cause million and millions of people to suffer. I find that really, really offensive. Actually more than offensive. It can only be described by terms I doubt Paris wants used in her section so I'm out of this for now at least. Hmm, maybe for good.

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