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    Default Re: Why Obama looks like a one-termer.

    I find the bigger supermakrkets use in-season foods from nearby their local areas, while places like Walmart, Aldi, etc do import a lot regardless of the season. It's a scale factor for them
    granted that there are a lot of variables, beginning with the fact that the USA Today article was nearly 2 years old. And yes obviously the US supermarket chains do use far more domestically grown fruits and vegetables than the WalMarts and Aldis. However this actually comes right back to the central question ... how many American will continue to pay (or will be able to afford to pay) a premium price for US grown fruits and vegetables ? It is that premium price that supports the continued profitability of higher production cost US growers. In point of fact, many commercial US growers 'gave up the ship' in 2008 ... particularly tomato growers. In further point of fact, many US growers are going to be forced to 'give up the ship' in 2009 as their borrowing costs to fertilize, seed, and pesticide have risen tremendously while the world market price of their crop has declined.

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    Default Re: Why Obama looks like a one-termer.

    With the great price decline in petroleum and related products, we have market inefficiencies at play here. Further the tomato scare thing was fake and unfortunate. Eventually things may stabilize and itt may take a growing season or more. In the meantime, it's farm artibrage.
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    Default Re: Why Obama looks like a one-termer.

    speak of the devil, a new news story about California farms affected by new gov't regulations and the limited availability of credit to finance next year's crop ...



    (snip)"MENDOTA, Calif. - Idled farm workers are searching for food in the nation's most prolific agricultural region, where a double blow of drought and a court-ordered cutback of water supplies has caused hundreds of millions of dollars in losses.

    This bedraggled town is struggling with an unemployment rate that city officials say is 40 percent and rising. This month, 600 farm families depleted the cupboards of the local food bank, which turned away families — more than 100 of them — for the first time."(snip)

    (snip)""But this can be fixed like that," he said, snapping his fingers. "All they have to do is get the water here."

    California's population has ballooned from 10 million to more than 36 million since water began flowing through the state's network of canals in middle of last century, delivering water from the wet north to the arid south.

    After years of discounting the environmental consequences, court orders seeking to protect threatened fish such as the Delta smelt have slowed the flows even as prolonged drought left some reservoirs at just 12 percent of capacity."(snip)

    (snip)"Now farmers are relying on dwindling groundwater supplies and keeping their fingers crossed for 10 percent of their water allotments. Last week a coalition of farmers and urban water filed a lawsuit claiming that state officials overstepped their authority by approving another round of potential cuts.

    The valley produces 80 percent of the world's almonds. But grower Shawn Coburn has held off spending $350,000 to fertilize his 1,000 acres this month because he fears he will not have enough water for a 2009 crop.

    "If you like foreign oil, you're going to love foreign food," he scoffed."(snip)

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    Default Re: Why Obama looks like a one-termer.

    If industry isn't responsible for protecting the public from its own crooks, the populace is justified in having the government take a crack at it. We aren't just going to sit back and let business moguls' shortcuts poison, rob, and kill us. If we didn't have oversight, this country would be an unholy mess with HUGE number of the exploiters out there. You want less government, go live with the Lord of the Flies. Theirs failed, so they abandoned it to anarchy.

    I have to suspect that anyone who wants the government to abandon its surveillance of business to in fact be an exploiter just waiting for the watchdog to go to sleep. In fact we need better watchdogs, not fewer of them. If they aren't good, let's train them better and get them working better for us. Getting rid of them just makes anarchy that much closer to all of us.
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    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

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    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Default Re: Why Obama looks like a one-termer.

    ^^^
    Agreed. It seems the ones screaming, "Leave us alone! Let us run our businesses however we want!" are the ones who are in the most prime postion to fuck people over most royally. And we are expected to trust them because this time they really really will do the right thing. Promise.

    That's like letting the fox have free reign of the hen house just because he's says he's not going to harm those hens even though that's what he's always done. It doesn't make any sense.
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    Default Re: Why Obama looks like a one-termer.

    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    If industry isn't responsible for protecting the public from its own crooks, the populace is justified in having the government take a crack at it. We aren't just going to sit back and let business moguls' shortcuts poison, rob, and kill us. If we didn't have oversight, this country would be an unholy mess with HUGE number of the exploiters out there. You want less government, go live with the Lord of the Flies. Theirs failed, so they abandoned it to anarchy.

    I have to suspect that anyone who wants the government to abandon its surveillance of business to in fact be an exploiter just waiting for the watchdog to go to sleep. In fact we need better watchdogs, not fewer of them. If they aren't good, let's train them better and get them working better for us. Getting rid of them just makes anarchy that much closer to all of us.
    Dicken's-era England springs to mind. Brutal exploitation and child-labor...

    Although plenty of Third World sweatshops could easily fit that description as well...

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