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    Default No strippers allowed in pole dancing class?!?!?!

    So, I took a "teaser" pole dancing class today. Since I was the only one there, it ended up being one-on-one instruction. The instructor was super nice and knowledgeable. I told her that I had been dancing for about a month and was eager to learn pole tricks in a safe, controlled environment under the supervision of an expert.

    "Ooh, don't tell the other instructor (who is also the owner) that you strip," she said.

    She explained that the owner is Christian, and that the classes follow a "don't ask, don't tell" policy if you are stripper. The owner's reasons for this:

    1. She doesn't want to alienate her conservative clientele
    2. She doesn't want nudity at the classes (because strippers just don't know HOW to keep their clothes on, even when they aren't at work)

    Does anyone else think this is completely ridiculous? I mean, I expect to encounter anti-stripper prejudice sometimes, but not in a pole dancing class! It's like being turned away from yoga because you're Hindu and they don't want the Christians to be turned off by your blue, eight-armed gods.

    I'm still going to take the classes, because this one was really fun, but I hate that I'm going to have to be all paranoid about the owner finding out that I'm a stripper.

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    How is she going to find out unless she is out scoping out stripclubs? Please if it wasn't for us she wouldn't have a job. It's like being anti-chesse sellings pizzas.
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    wow that is something.. to say the least..

    still lol @ "It's like being turned away from yoga because you're Hindu and they don't want the Christians to be turned off by your blue, eight-armed gods"

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    Default Re: No strippers allowed in pole dancing class?!?!?!

    This is too damned funny! Although I must admit, point number two is well taken. I can't get any grip on the pole if I've got clothes on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by UV69 View Post
    How is she going to find out unless she is out scoping out stripclubs? Please if it wasn't for us she wouldn't have a job. It's like being anti-chesse sellings pizzas.

    She DOES scope out strip clubs! Which is part of what makes this so weird! I mean...if stripping violates your morality, don't open a pole dancing studio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winged Dinghy View Post
    So, I took a "teaser" pole dancing class today. Since I was the only one there, it ended up being one-on-one instruction. The instructor was super nice and knowledgeable. I told her that I had been dancing for about a month and was eager to learn pole tricks in a safe, controlled environment under the supervision of an expert.

    "Ooh, don't tell the other instructor (who is also the owner) that you strip," she said.

    She explained that the owner is Christian, and that the classes follow a "don't ask, don't tell" policy if you are stripper. The owner's reasons for this:

    1. She doesn't want to alienate her conservative clientele
    2. She doesn't want nudity at the classes (because strippers just don't know HOW to keep their clothes on, even when they aren't at work)

    Does anyone else think this is completely ridiculous? I mean, I expect to encounter anti-stripper prejudice sometimes, but not in a pole dancing class! It's like being turned away from yoga because you're Hindu and they don't want the Christians to be turned off by your blue, eight-armed gods.

    I'm still going to take the classes, because this one was really fun, but I hate that I'm going to have to be all paranoid about the owner finding out that I'm a stripper.
    on ward hristian salesmen...everyone wants to ash in on the pole daning trend even the religious right! whew! cheers! harlow

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrSyzeBarbie View Post
    wow that is something.. to say the least..

    still lol @ "It's like being turned away from yoga because you're Hindu and they don't want the Christians to be turned off by your blue, eight-armed gods"
    I lol'd too!

    Unfortunately there is a lot of that kind of attitude out there - there have been other threads on here where people have encountered similar attitudes. It chimes in with things like people trying to develop exams in poledancing. As though you are going to tell me that my 6 years worth of dancing experience and getting damned well paid for it isn't worth jack because Sarah-Jane's taken her ten week certificate

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    Default Re: No strippers allowed in pole dancing class?!?!?!

    the one in my area also says this. wtf that's fucked!!!!

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    Hypocrits make me so sick...

    I'm just very emotional about it because my name has been slandered by many a-Christian or whatever it may be... And lo and behold, later I found out that they are human too... They usually can't look you in the eye after they have been unveiled... But, being of Christian morals and principles, I never rub it in their face or slander their name, I continue to have a cordial and civil relationship with them.

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    Default Re: No strippers allowed in pole dancing class?!?!?!

    Just go and enjoy the classes, but don't mention it. If the owner finds out and tries to kick you out then sue the ever loving shit out of her!

    Can you imagine what the media would do with a lawsuit where a pole dancing studio kicked out a paying customer for being a stripper? Or hearing someone stand up in court and say that you violated the ethics and morality of their "spin around a pole like a whore" class? What a joke, you'd win that lawsuit because "good christians" would be more disgusted by someone proclaiming to be an upstanding citizen while teaching housewives to act like "trashy strippers" then they would be by an actual stripper.

    They have no right to discriminate against you, you are not a criminal, just ignore their gross stupidity and hypocrisy.

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    Default Re: No strippers allowed in pole dancing class?!?!?!

    take the class, and show them all up by being the best at it.

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    Default Re: No strippers allowed in pole dancing class?!?!?!

    so Im curious how many (non stripper) housewives have a pole in their house??


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    gosh that makes me weary of going to the classes now women we are so critical of each other I hope the one here is not like this we have so many though.

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    Any hope I had for humanity just got chucked out thw window. "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits" Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by babybambi08 View Post
    so Im curious how many (non stripper) housewives have a pole in their house??
    It's quite the 'in thing' to do these days. Lots of regular bars ands clubs have poles these days and lots of women are getting them at home. It's part of the stripperfication of mainstream society that i think is part of the decline of this industry, but that's another thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by spartaca View Post
    It's quite the 'in thing' to do these days. Lots of regular bars ands clubs have poles these days and lots of women are getting them at home. It's part of the stripperfication of mainstream society that i think is part of the decline of this industry, but that's another thread...

    yeah--the instructor told me that "most" of her students run out and buy a pole after their first class so they can practice at home.

    It shocks me to think of all these housewives installing L'il Minxes after ONE CLASS. I don't even have one! And they must be well off if they can just drop that much money on a whim.

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    I agree with MarvelGirl. At the same time, if the owner is practising Christianity, she should know better than to judge others. Has she forgotten about the time the townpeople attempted to attack a prostitute until Jesus stuck up for her? Its been said that her accusers may have been the men that had sex with her. And there have been questions about where the man was who they caught with her since he was every bit as guilty. On that note, the other owner needs to keep in mind that the money you make from stipping is what pays for your classes and allows her to remain in business!!!

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    It is completely unprofessional to not allow a student to take a pole class based on their occupation. As a pole instructor and as a christian I find this story disturbing.

    I have never rejected a dancer from my classes - I think a dancer would add some semblance of reality to the classes. I think her presence would add yet another perspective for the hobbiest and would display a different type of dance that would be beneficial fr non industry pole dancers.

    I also provide special training for exotic dancers. YOUR TIME IS MONEY AND MUST PROVIDE YOU SOMETHING USEFUL. You are taking classes to improve your stage show and make more sales - you are not taking the class "just to have fun." This is an educational thing for you. My indsutry classes provide dancers with the knowedge to properly care for their body while wearing 8'' heels for 8 hours, how to put their stage show together from moves to outfits. We discuss smiling, eye contact, how to get attention, finishing out moves, polishing your performance, floor work, audience interaction, body mechanics, etc. I want my dancers to walk away from each ad every session with useful material they can take into the club that night. My industry girls leave excited and confident and I do hope that carries with them into the club and helps them.

    I'm sorry that this particular instructor feels the need to pick and choose her clientele. As a christian, I train industry dancers to be safer, wiser and feel good - I can only imagine how some people make you feel, their harsh judgements and painful remarks. I believe support for dancers should come from inside and outside the club.

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    if you do get found out and kicked out, i agree with the poster who recommended a lawsuit.

    also, her going to scope out stripclubs seems really suspicious and weird to me. and kind of reminds me of bring it on, as silly as that is.
    "If she wants to dance and drink all night, well there's no one that can stop her. She's going til the house lights come up or her stomach spills onto the floor. This night is gonna end when we're damn well ready for it to be over, worked all week long, and now the music is playing on our time. Yeah we do what we do to get by, and then we need a release!" - Against Me!, "Thrash Unreal"

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    Quote Originally Posted by UV69 View Post
    Please if it wasn't for us she wouldn't have a job. It's like being anti-chesse sellings pizzas.
    exactly! how dare she appropriate the tools of our trade and then judge us. fuck her that seriously pisses me off
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    Alot of pole dance studios don't want "strippers" in their classes. They advertise these classes for "the everyday woman" and that doesn't include dancers. Yes, it's bigoted and just plain ridiculous.

    However, when I take a class, I don't tell anyone what I do. It's really none of their business and I don't want to have to answer 50 questions about dancing. I also can't take classes from just anyone. Alot of these fly by night pole instructors look like grannies who have picked up a new hobby. They look awkward, not sexy, and their approach and skill with the pole isn't useful.

    I find the best pole instructors to be former dancers, aerialists, or other paid performers. They know how to give a good show, look polished, have the necessary credentials, and know what sells the crowd. The proof is in their resume.

    I'm not interested in learning how to pole from a housewife, in fact, I'm insulted. So, I don't get offended when these fly by night pole studios discriminate against exotic dancers because they don't have the necessary qualifications to teach me anyway.

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    I would much rather learn from an experienced dancer/stripper than someone who has no "real" experience or is biased

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    Wow.I have no words...wow.

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    Thats a buch of BS as long as the person is paying they shouldn't care what they do.

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    I teach Pole Dancing out her in California, and I love when I get someone who actually dances for a living comes in to take some classes. Usually they are so much more fun to teach.
    Most of my students are young college girls or housewives just wanting a more exciting workout, and I don't maid teaching these girls, so of them really get into it and get really good.
    But I still love the performance and the stage, so, i guess i like preparing others for it as well. It's great when you can go in to their club and see your student on stage and say "Wow, she's so good. And I taught her that." Gives a weird sense of accomplishment.
    But strangely the "regular" girls are my bread and butter. They are the ones that come in every week for class. Dancers have always been the flaky ones.

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