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    I'm so f'king mad at Scores NYC! Unless you "do the right thing", they treat you like garbage, prevent you from making money in rooms, rob you blind with highest house fees around, and then make you BEG for the MONEY YOU'VE ALREADY MADE! How sick is that? There's a 1-hour window 4 nights a week to exchange your funny dollars for a post-dated check, which after being put on hold, could bounce too. It was my 4th unsuccessful attempt to get MY money! All decent dancers who can get legal employment elsewhere are already gone. I'm out as soon as I get my money, hopefully tomorrow.

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    That's why I can't stand a lot of so called wannabe "high end" clubs. They rob you worse than a local corner hole in the wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty Purr View Post
    I'm so f'king mad at Scores NYC! Unless you "do the right thing", they treat you like garbage, prevent you from making money in rooms, rob you blind with highest house fees around, and then make you BEG for the MONEY YOU'VE ALREADY MADE! How sick is that? There's a 1-hour window 4 nights a week to exchange your funny dollars for a post-dated check, which after being put on hold, could bounce too. It was my 4th unsuccessful attempt to get MY money! All decent dancers who can get legal employment elsewhere are already gone. I'm out as soon as I get my money, hopefully tomorrow.
    I don't want to pile on and appreciate how lousy and used you feel but, WHERE have you been ? Scores has been on death watch and life support for over a year ! Why do you think Lonnie left and went to Rick's ? Along with almost every decent dancer they've got ? Get OUT ! Bail out ! Abandon ship !

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    I find that too many people hold onto working at a place in order to get the money that's owed them. I understand the logic, but it becomes a never-ending spiral. You may need to cut your losses and run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielle_4370 View Post
    I find that too many people hold onto working at a place in order to get the money that's owed them. I understand the logic, but it becomes a never-ending spiral. You may need to cut your losses and run.
    One reason I sympathize is that I had a job like that a LONG time ago. The owner owed me money and I stuck around waiting and hoping to get paid. Eventually I settled for 50 cents on the dollar and hit the road and I was lucky. The guys who stuck around to the bitter end got nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alia_of_the_Knife View Post
    That's why I can't stand a lot of so called wannabe "high end" clubs.
    ITA. (But I also hate working in dives....thank God for mid-scale clubs. )

    Sorry you're having such a bad experience, KittyPurr...and thanks for posting about it so others can be warned. I hope you can manage to get your $$ and find a better club.

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    I don't understand. Are they paying you for dance dollars/funny money with checks instead of cash?

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    we NEVER see cash from them! we are lucky to get a fking check between 11:30 and 12:30, and apparently, 12:25 last night was already too fking late! And they post date the check by a week! And hopefully, another week later, it clears. They are shameless thieves! And they kill room sales for many of us too by being rude and driving customers away) I'm sooo out of there! Tonight is my last night!

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    ^^Wait, so ALL THE MONEY YOU MAKE has to be turned into a check, or just the dance dollars? I've never heard of a non-cash system before.

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    Isn't it illegal to post date a check?
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    Under the SCORES business model, most of the SCORES clientele chooses to use (or by funny money club rules are encouraged to use) credit cards rather than cash. As such, there is very little happening in the way of direct exchanges of cash taking place between the customers and the dancers. The customer's credit card money transaction is processed at the club's cash register, the customers are issued funny money to give to the dancers, and any 'room' charges are also processed at the club's cash register. Thus in order for dancers to actually leave the club with spendable money, they must wait for the club to exchange the funny money they turn in and must wait for the club to pay out the dancer's 'share' of customer room charges etc.. This only occurs during limited time periods as set by the club, and also takes the form of a post-dated check. And because the club is allowed to define a 'pay period' under NY law it is legal for the club to post-date checks to the end of the current 'pay period' (which could be the middle of the following week !).

    I would also add that SCORES has been the ongoing target of tax enforcement, and that any payments via check from the club to the dancers must be assumed to have come 'on the radar' of tax enforcement agencies.

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    So... I got my post dated check. No more Scores Dollars. Tomorrow going to audition at other clubs. Scores has been getting increasingly more pathetic with every passing day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    Under the SCORES business model, most of the SCORES clientele chooses to use (or by funny money club rules are encouraged to use) credit cards rather than cash. As such, there is very little happening in the way of direct exchanges of cash taking place between the customers and the dancers. The customer's credit card money transaction is processed at the club's cash register, the customers are issued funny money to give to the dancers, and any 'room' charges are also processed at the club's cash register. Thus in order for dancers to actually leave the club with spendable money, they must wait for the club to exchange the funny money they turn in and must wait for the club to pay out the dancer's 'share' of customer room charges etc.. This only occurs during limited time periods as set by the club, and also takes the form of a post-dated check. And because the club is allowed to define a 'pay period' under NY law it is legal for the club to post-date checks to the end of the current 'pay period' (which could be the middle of the following week !).

    I would also add that SCORES has been the ongoing target of tax enforcement, and that any payments via check from the club to the dancers must be assumed to have come 'on the radar' of tax enforcement agencies.
    Don't forget the civil suit originally filed by Siri Diaz that has morphed into a class action with about 70 dancers as plaintiffs. Scores is accused of skimming 10% from Diamond Dollars. Settlement talks have reportedly begun.
    The plaintiff's attorney is Justin Swartz at OUTTEN & GOLDEN LLP 3 Park Avenue, N.Y. N.Y. 10016 212-245-1000

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    Yup true ! I just hope that the 70 dancers who signed their names to this class action lawsuit are prepared for a full blown IRS audit !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    Yup true ! I just hope that the 70 dancers who signed their names to this class action lawsuit are prepared for a full blown IRS audit !
    Um. While it's a possibility, it is somewhat unlikely that the IRS is going to audit a bunch of Scores dancers. There's not enough of a potential return UNLESS we're talking about six-figure incomes.

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    again a friendly reminder that club chat is for dancers not customers ect.
    please guys, refrain from posting here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty Purr View Post
    I'm so f'king mad at Scores NYC! Unless you "do the right thing", they treat you like garbage, prevent you from making money in rooms, rob you blind with highest house fees around, and then make you BEG for the MONEY YOU'VE ALREADY MADE! How sick is that? There's a 1-hour window 4 nights a week to exchange your funny dollars for a post-dated check, which after being put on hold, could bounce too. It was my 4th unsuccessful attempt to get MY money! All decent dancers who can get legal employment elsewhere are already gone. I'm out as soon as I get my money, hopefully tomorrow.
    Welcome to the world of SCORES. I have been TRYING to tell girls on this board the same thing for the past 5.5 years. THEY SUCK. PERIOD. They give you a time slot to get your $, and you MUST pay them up front your house fee to work/get your money. So, they are certainly getting theirs---but when it comes to paying the dancers, forget about it. If you aren't blowing someone there you aren't getting squat. You have to be FIRST in line to get your $, or else they 'run out' (as stated before). And on top of that, they post-date their checks and there is no guarantee it won't bounce.

    They owe me $ too...3K to be exact. I am still waiting.

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    There's not enough of a potential return UNLESS we're talking about six-figure incomes.
    Given SCORES financial publicity, as well as the past commentary of SCORES dancers to NY media about earning $2k a night, it's very probable that the IRS would 'estimate' these girls had six figure incomes and then leave it to them to try and prove that they didn't actually earn that much.

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    i worked at scores for 2 months and think i left every night crying. i only took the job because i grew up listening to howard stern but i was too young during the "glory days."
    thankfully i found a club that's 100x's better and have been working there successfully now for over a year.

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    Did scores on 60-something just get closed down?
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    Scores was aquired by sapphire last week. Rumored opening jan 5,2009...
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    Wow,so it's finally coming to an end....

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    thank goodness you left girl! i experienced the same ripoff at both clubs i work at here in houston. i usually make the customer stay until i get my money. the most high end club here the starts with THE M C. the waitress and dance manager stole my money. so i feel your pain, those f*ckers. i hope karma hit them one of these days.

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    I agree with Nikki. There's custies and then thers people of all walks of life who have tipped strippers before. Even strippers go to clubs as custies. Does that disqualify them? We don't gotta be the police here and be mean about it. That's the mods job. To moderate.

    This guy sounds informed and helpful. Why shoot his advice down? Just cuz he has a penis and two balls?

    I know how us ladies can be. We deal with creeps and pervs all the time but every guy is not like the nasty guy who tried to suck you tit or get grabby. Its nice to have a place of our own but sometimes those human beings with penises can help too.

    We need all the info we can get. These days, if a zebra comes at me with some good legit info I would listen.

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    well the problem is. when one guy is allowed here then others follow suit. i also get reports from other customers wondering why they are not allowed to post here by xyz can.
    this is why customers and others that do not physically dance in a club are discouraged from participating here.
    i think when the updates here are finished the rules will be more clearly stated. there are alot of unwritten rules here that cause confusion.
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