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    Default weekend commentary - Zogby poll of Obama voters

    how can these poll results possibly be explained ???


    (snip)"Zogby Poll

    512 Obama Voters 11/13/08-11/15/08 MOE +/- 4.4 points

    97.1% High School Graduate or higher, 55% College Graduates

    Results to 12 simple Multiple Choice Questions

    57.4% could NOT correctly say which party controls congress (50/50 shot just by guessing)

    71.8% could NOT correctly say Joe Biden quit a previous campaign because of plagiarism (25% chance by guessing)

    82.6% could NOT correctly say that Barack Obama won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot (25% chance by guessing)

    88.4% could NOT correctly say that Obama said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket (25% chance by guessing)

    56.1% could NOT correctly say Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground (25% chance by guessing).

    And yet.....

    Only 13.7% failed to identify Sarah Palin as the person on which their party spent $150,000 in clothes

    Only 6.2% failed to identify Palin as the one with a pregnant teenage daughter

    And 86.9 % thought that Palin said that she could see Russia from her "house," even though that was Tina Fey who said that!!

    Only 2.4% got at least 11 correct.

    Only .5% got all of them correct. (And we "gave" one answer that was technically not Palin, but actually Tina Fey) "(snip)

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    Default Re: weekend commentary - Zogby poll of Obama voters

    Interesting but not all that surprising since a large number of Americans can't point out a variety of countries on a map or even know the hemisphere in which they are located. By comparison those Zogby questions are akin to calculus. Not to mention the wording in some contain ultra far right bias at best.

    I'd also like to see these questions posed to McCain voters too. "Betcha" they would be far, far worse. Especially those who id with more with Palin than McCain. It's always a good laugh when people insists that dinosaurs never walked the earth, that the planet is only about 5,000 years old and that Noah's Ark really held two of every single animal in the entire animal kingdom.

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    Default Re: weekend commentary - Zogby poll of Obama voters

    it was a push poll, which is an extremely shady and useless form of polling.

    more info here:http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/...-on-zogby.html

    nate silver knows his polling, and he calls BS on this one quite rightly.

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    Default Re: weekend commentary - Zogby poll of Obama voters

    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    it was a push poll, which is an extremely shady and useless form of polling.

    more info here:http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/...-on-zogby.html

    nate silver knows his polling, and he calls BS on this one quite rightly.
    Hmmm. It's not exactly a "push poll".And the questions were factually true. Slanted perhaps but nonetheless true.

    However if one took a similar poll of McCain supporters, I'm sure there would be an equal amount of ignorance.

    The fact remains that Obama won EVERY demographic except white working class males. Obama won college grads and held his own among investors. Psst, more than 505 of us are "investors".

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    Default Re: weekend commentary - Zogby poll of Obama voters

    no, they weren't even 'factually true' some were just opinions spun as 'facts'.

    regardless, it was a completely useless poll done for very specific and stupid reasons.

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    Default Re: weekend commentary - Zogby poll of Obama voters

    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    no, they weren't even 'factually true' some were just opinions spun as 'facts'.

    regardless, it was a completely useless poll done for very specific and stupid reasons.
    Asking what party controls Congress calls for a fact based response. You either know or you don't.

    Biden DID drop out of the '88 race after getting caught plagiarizing.

    Obama DID play "Chicago hardball" and get his primary opponents kicked off the ballot. He DID say that owners of coal fired power plants would be allowed to operate BUT would "go bankrupt" under his "cap & trade" proposals.

    All I'm saying is that a poll like that generates more heat than light because far too many voters are shockingly ignorant i.e. McCain voters were just as poorly informed as Obama's and maybe more so. Likewise, I fail to see the inherent value of a poll like that. Obama is the President - elect. Everybody get used to it.

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    Default Re: weekend commentary - Zogby poll of Obama voters

    Watch "JayWalking" on Leno. It may be selected for comedy, but it says a lot about the populace. At least my perception of it.
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    Default Re: weekend commentary - Zogby poll of Obama voters

    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    Watch "JayWalking" on Leno. It may be selected for comedy, but it says a lot about the populace. At least my perception of it.
    EXACTLY although anyone even reasonably well informed NEVER makes it on the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    how can these poll results possibly be explained ???



    And 86.9 % thought that Palin said that she could see Russia from her "house," even though that was Tina Fey who said that!!



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    "They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska." That's what Palin said in response to a question about her foreign policy ability.

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    Default Re: weekend commentary - Zogby poll of Obama voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post

    71.8% could NOT correctly say Joe Biden quit a previous campaign because of plagiarism (25% chance by guessing)

    82.6% could NOT correctly say that Barack Obama won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot (25% chance by guessing)

    88.4% could NOT correctly say that Obama said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket (25% chance by guessing)

    56.1% could NOT correctly say Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground (25% chance by guessing).
    These are some deep inside politics questions. Unless you are a total DC junkie, this information wouldn't have been obvious to most Americans that get their info from the candidates websites and from the public debates.

    Here is Sara Palin saying that she is keeping an eye on Russia because they are right next to her state:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg

    Tina Fey didn't even have to work for that joke!


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