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    On the pink side I see a lot of dancer complaining about the difficulty about generating income, due to the current economy. I certainly have not seen it in the club that I visit; if anything, it appears that there are more customers and few dancers then over summer/fall (at about the same time of day, day of the week, day of the month). It seems that it takes a relatively long time to get a dancer to come to a guy, and pretty much forever (well, 30 min+) to get a drink. Judging by what is written on the pink side, I would have thought that dancers would be all over the guys.

    What do you think, fellow customers; do you see dancers more hungry for business than before?

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    For the guys who do have surplus money to spend it is probably a punkster perfect storm. Here in southern Ohio because we are so manufacturing dependent times are tough at least at my home club. There seems to be a polarization with the few remaining rollers on one side and and the $50 guys on the other. I've somehow been able to continue to give my fav good money but she bitches constantly about the influx of customers who want to get off for $20. Other than abcd, I don't think that would impress any of the guys here.

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    No no FBR. Considering the sentimental value of money, $20 is too much.

    I dunno. To me it seems there has been only a very slight decrease in the number of men visiting the clubs in my neck of the woods compared to say last year, two years ago, five years ago... Again IMO, there has been only a slight decrease in the number of men who are willing to buy dances. However, where I see a big difference is in the total number of dances guys are willing to get whether it be with one dancer or spread out over a few.

    Of the guys who still regularly buy dances, I wonder if their tipping habits have changed at all due to the economy.

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    Last month when I stopped by a local club there were almost no customers and the dancers seemed fairly desperate. Hopefully I will have time to stop by there the week after Thanksgiving. I figure with Christmas next month the dancers will be getting really desperate, I think that I may be able to negotiate some deep discounts for extras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsteve View Post
    On the pink side I see a lot of dancer complaining about the difficulty about generating income, due to the current economy. I certainly have not seen it in the club that I visit; if anything, it appears that there are more customers and few dancers then over summer/fall (at about the same time of day, day of the week, day of the month). It seems that it takes a relatively long time to get a dancer to come to a guy, and pretty much forever (well, 30 min+) to get a drink. Judging by what is written on the pink side, I would have thought that dancers would be all over the guys.

    What do you think, fellow customers; do you see dancers more hungry for business than before?
    I see mixed indicators in the local clubswhen visiting. In my normal hangout I last Thursday There was a slightly larger crowd than normal for that night. However, I see many more dancers in the club
    1. several working an abnormal night. In the past this has indicated making up for a skipped shift or a bad night.
    2. a lot of dancers who had worked in the club in the past coming back - either club hopping or on this night many were sub-standard dacners in the looks/hustle skills.

    I put one and two together and think that dancers have more competition than they are used to and maybe customers spending less even if head counts are as good.

    The other side of the coin related to dancer skill at identifying sources of money and extracting it from the wallet. Was going to put this in as part of a trip report, but will plug the relevant part here. Visited a club that I may get to once a month and walked in about 20 minutes after opening. A few minutes later teh first dancer appears with two customers in the place. She is cute and deserves a tip so I go to stage and tip. After her set and normal dressing room visit and smoke break she comes by asking to sit and talk. I semi-politely comment that I wouldn't want to waste he time as I wasn't ready to get dances yet. After most dancers have gone through rotation I have decided that she first dancer is a good option given the roster for the day but she never circulates the room after that first trip. At the end of the rotation a dancer appears who works the club 1 weekend a month. She is with another customer but recognizes me and stops to say hello. I remember the face/body but don't remember the lapdance so am pretty non-commital about her chances of dances with me that day. She sits with her targeted customer. I proceed to tip first dancer and offer encouraging comments at stageside. 2nd dancer then starts to lead her customer to the back dance area and stops on way back to say to me "I'll be back to get you for dances" to which I reply " I may not be here." She does here dances, dressing room break etc. Then stops by to say she is next on stage and line up her dances with me. Then off to work the bar area while waiting for her set. During her set bar area table guys come by to tip her and conversation ensues that I assume is a lap dance setup.

    Off we go for our short 3 dances in VIP room. Much more memorable than past experience. End set she asks for business card, reply no cards on me. She then gives her telephone number so we can communicate about when she is dancing in town next as she lives 3 hours away.

    Summary of a long story
    - Dancer 1 spent a lot of time sitting at bar and maybe had a couple of dances during the time I was there.
    - Dancer 2 worked the room and bar tables had dances with three customers for a total of 8 or 9 dances and works her future customers base.

    Which dancer goes home that day complaining about the poor money and bad customers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    ........ the influx of customers who want to get off for $20. Other than abcd, I don't think that would impress any of the guys here.


    In North Jersey I notice a big drop in customers in the Cities as compared to the heavily Republican suburbs. I guess the government bailout money is going to good use.

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    In North Jersey I notice a big drop in customers in the Cities as compared to the heavily Republican suburbs. I guess the government bailout money is going to good use.
    Ha! I am going to the club tomorrow more as an intellectual exercise than anything else. My tip roll is thin ($300 which has to cover tips and adult beverages) so it will be a short visit. But I am curious who shows up.

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    Haven't been to a local club in over a year. Wouldn't know. Don't really care.

    Did go to clubs in nearby cities towards the end of October. Two of the visits were on Saturday night and if headcount means anything, guys are going to the strip club as frequently as they ever have. One other visit was on a Sunday and you could damn hear a pin drop in the place.

    Now are those Saturday night crowds necessarily translating into earnings for dancers? Being in the cheap belt, its hard to tell. Noticing a decline is kind of hard when things were never that spectacular to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    My tip roll is thin ($300 which has to cover tips and adult beverages) so it will be a short visit.
    Wow! If you consider spending $300 on drinks and tips as "thin", then I am impressed. I don't think that I ever spend $300 for everything (drinks, tips, LDs, entrance fee, dinner) in a SC at one sitting.

    Uh, I hope that this is not a too personal question, but how much do you normally spend in a SC?

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    It's been bad for most of the clubs in Dallas. It's hitting hard everywhere, not to mention... the girls. Sure they could hustle and all that, but they are having to hustle a lot more. But think of those who didn't have game or hustle a lot before, which I know lots of girls like that. They'll REALLY have to step up or won't make a dime.

    On our side though, those who do have money will really have fun because the girls dances are certainly getting better and wilder.
    Man oh man, what a trip it's been.

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    I spent Saturday afternoon in a club near Boston that used to be packed by mid afternoon on a Saturday and stay that way right up until closing. On this day there were about ten dancers and maybe eight or ten customers. I was there for almost three hours and it never really got much busier than that.

    Many of the girls are working five shifts a week now where a year ago they were working three of four.
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    On our side though, those who do have money will really have fun because the girls dances are certainly getting better and wilder.
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    Lately the girls here seem surprised or even slightly confused when I try to tip them for multiple lapdances. I'm assuming that means guys aren't usually tipping very much and dances here are $10! I do agree that the dances are getting better, though.

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    Yeah, business in Houston SCs is way down.

    There are less customers and they are spending less money.

    Last week I was talking to some waitresses I know for many years.

    They said the girls are definitely hungrier, performing more extras, and for lower prices. For this customer and I think most other customers, we have no complaints. It's just the reality of the times.

    This was specifically in a club on Richmond Ave. but I have the feeling that it's about the same all over Houston.

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    Business here in the UK (London at least) appears slow. It got very quiet in the run up to Christmas. It then picked up in the last two weeks before Christmas - the silly season where 'once a year' customers come to the venues. I expect to see a exceptionally quiet January.

    Although I'd have to say the first signs in a fall off in business were about a year ago when the credit crunch first hit - spending on dancers is discretionary, not essential, spending. This is particularly true in London where a lot of the big spenders came from the financial services sector - and that's now so far underwater, they're carry out financial analysis with the aid of a periscope.

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    It's gotten weird in pdx.

    Even without the recent snow shutdowns, business if horrible for the contractors. everywhere.

    The sheer volume of women who probably shouldn't be getting naked to support themselves is way up, as is half assed prostitution.

    I'm not going to insult the people hustling for a buck with eye bleach comments, but let it suffice to say that in the ten years prior to this, I had maybe one or two OTC for money propositions or tongues in my mouth, not to mention having my dick stroked while just chatting. That's all become fairly common within the last year.

    I realize some guys are really into that, but I don't go to SC's for that kind of crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsteve View Post
    If you consider spending $300 on drinks and tips as "thin", then I am impressed. I don't think that I ever spend $300 for everything (drinks, tips, LDs, entrance fee, dinner) in a SC at one sitting.
    +1. I've had a great time for half that much, and the dancers seemed grateful.

    At times like these the girls better be ready to give great deals on multiple dances, and the management needs to turn a blind eye to the dancers doing whatever they have to do to keep the customers coming back. Either that or the doors are gonna close, maybe for good.

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    My hobby phone is ringing off the hook, if it had a hood. The first of the month and Xmas bills are due. There may not be enough Earl to go around until the middle of the month.

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    I consistently went to a nice club here in ATL over the last 8 months or so...and I have definitely noticed that there are more dancers, there are more patrons, but the patrons are not willing to spend money...they like to chat and drink, but will not get dances from the girls... I normally go there 3-4 times per week and spend a good amount of money, so always haver girls lined up to dance for me, drink with me and chat...and I tend to stay with just one girl for the night/day, so if I'm there and I see someone I like she will have a good day, but the rest of the girls have told me that they are making 30-100 bucks per shift...which sucks for them.....
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    It started in Cali and So Fla and now Vegas is jammed with dancers. Then it spread to N.J and NYC. Many clubs are way off in attendance. Dancer earnings are DOWN almost all over.

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    Stage tipping is appreciated, contact levels are way up no extra cost, more dancers have a day job, and dancers now admit its not just about the money.

    When a dancer complains to me about how little they make now I ask them why they still do it.

    Guess what, they are really thinking about it, and have some very interesting answers.

    "I get to sexually explore, have fun, without having to deal with them tomorrow," is my current favorite.

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    So far I have been very pleasantly suprised by the dancers I consider to be club friends, and mortified by the ones I did not like before.

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    Even last year I saw a serious drop off in customers. Last Saturday, the Delilah's lot had a couple of spaces open when I pulled in around 11:00, which is nearly unheard of. Even for January, it was weird seeing a Sunday or Monday night where there were more dancers than customers there.

    The thing is, I can't say that it's all just the economy, since I've seen Risque or Oasis have a bunch more people than D's on a few of these low-turnout occasions. Then again, I also hear from the dancers at even those clubs that the people who show aren't spending as much as they did.

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    Well I have not been to any Strip Clubs in over 3 weeks (I normally went 3-4 times a week), because I've been really busy with my new startup....but I'm getting ready to go back to town next week and spend a considerable amount of money....so I'll report back by the end of next week....

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    From talking to ladies seems that clubs are still packed with guys but they are just there to drink and stare at ladies in there underwear, not spend money.

    I don't understand why clubs are not reducing their VIP rates in the current economic climate.

    As for the ATF, seems that she wants me to make up for her lack of income these days. Ridiculous...

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