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    PACKED club, empty VIP, no dances, no tipping...

    Last night was just downright strange. I've been back at this club for a litte over a month and last night wathe busiest night I've seen by far. The place was packed out, there was hardly a place to sit. The bar was also full, with people standing in the bar area as well. Lots of bachelor parties/b-days too.

    Usually when it's like this I am so busy I am running around like a chicken with my head cut off. But last night was my worse night yet....I walked with only $80. For me, that is BAD and I mean unusually, horribly BAD.

    I only had 2 VIPS the whole night, and both the guys didn't stay long, maybe 2 or 3 songs a piece. I was in there once earlier in then once again later. So strange, the first time I was in there was NO ONE else but me and my customer. The second time there was only 1 other girl. I popped my head in too right before I left just to see and still, nobody in VIP. Not a soul.

    At one point I looked out on the floor and there were no dances going on at all. No dances, no one even watching the stage (so no tips, of course)

    It was just bizarre! How could a club be so packed and no one is making any money? Has this happened to any of you guys recently?

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    Default Re: PACKED club, empty VIP, no dances, no tipping...

    I had this about a week ago, it totally stumped me!

    The place was packed out, but mostly with young (broke) guys, and couples who seemed like they'd rather be anywhere but there. All us girls just kept looking at each other like "wtf?!". I think I left with about $70.


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    That has happened MANY times at my club on the weekends. The club is so packed that it is hard to walk, yet nobody is doing any dances or VIPs. The only upside is that it is mandatory to sit at the stage and tip, so at least you can make decent stage money as a last resort.

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    That was my club last night. The main room was packed, and I saw few table dances going on for the last hour.

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    Same shit at my club recently. "Season" hit early October in that we have more bodies in the chairs... but there is less money being spent. You have basically described my club: PACKED with standing room only, and you look across the room and there might be one or two dances going on at peak time, and only one VIP booth with the curtain closed (meaning it's occupied.) Stage tips are a joke. People don't even look at the stages.
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    I learned a long time ago that how packed the club is is in no way indicative of how well you'll do on any given night. It could be packed with a bunch of cheapos or guys that actually have money to spend. You'll never really know until you start working the floor and get a feel for things.

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    This just happened to my club 2 weeks ago. At first I thought perhaps it just was not my night, but then I realized that all the other girls were having the same experience.

    I can't understand why you would go to a club with zero money? WTF? That's like showing up a restaurant and saying "oh No i don't want to order off the menu, I'll just drink the water and eat the free bread"
    When it comes down to it, I'll let them think what they want. If they care enough to bother with what I do, then I'm already better then them.

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    Safety in numbers. Guys think... "Hey! If no one is spending, why should I? Clearly everyone else gets away with it... they can't punish us all."

    Brilliant...

    The key is to be friendly and wait for the -BREAK- when one, two, suddenly six, suddenly a dozen guys are buying. Keep trying... you might be the first to bank.
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    Default Re: PACKED club, empty VIP, no dances, no tipping...

    I always say:it's the quality if the customers in the club, not the quantity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virgoamm View Post
    I learned a long time ago that how packed the club is is in no way indicative of how well you'll do on any given night.
    True. I worked tonight (dragged myself in even though I really didn't want to) ...and let's just say, I had one of my "typical" nights money wise. I'm happy tonight. We weren't "dead" (meaning no one in the chairs, tumbleweeds blowing through, ghost town type of thing) but it wasn't busy by any means.

    Quote Originally Posted by wikidlittlegirl View Post
    I can't understand why you would go to a club with zero money? WTF? That's like showing up a restaurant and saying "oh No i don't want to order off the menu, I'll just drink the water and eat the free bread"
    HAHA! I know, right? I waited tables for 10 years prior to dancing so this actually is a good analogy for me.

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    I'll take quality over quantity anyday. It's been consistently packed on weekends where I work too, but no money is being spent. Usually the guys will tip, but nothing this week. Everyone was watching the tube. If I had the remote I would turn off the TVs, enough is enough. I don't get why people come out to sit, like bumps on a log. Everyone had the same excuse, "Not now, I'm drinking."

    Our club should have a dancing minimum per hour, otherwise, get the hell out. I'd rather work in a empty club with a few spending custys, then a packed club with none. Most of the girls ran out of there owing the club house, with little money of their own. Guys waited to start dancing right before closing. Oh great, now I have less than an hour, but to do what exactly? Certainly not bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeBe View Post
    Guys waited to start dancing right before closing. Oh great, now I have less than an hour, but to do what exactly? Certainly not bank.
    This always aggravated me about work. The same guys that said "maybe later" all night now have me waiting in line for an hour at the end of the night to do a 15 minute VIP room. I don't know what the hell they're all holding out for...it's not like the dances magically get any better or cheaper at closing time.

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    Convention season kicked in at my club so there's tons of guys so the club is "busy" but getting them to spend is like pulling teeth.

    The guys are still coming to the SC just not spending and it is so AGGRAVATING.


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    Yeah. We get this too. Especially the guys who wait and wait and wait...I've lost patience with them. When the club is packed and all i hear is "maybe later" or "I want to wait...come back later" I just say "What makes you think that a dance now is any different from a dance later? There's no point in waiting!" Sometimes this works, but it usually gets more excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockell View Post
    This always aggravated me about work. The same guys that said "maybe later" all night now have me waiting in line for an hour at the end of the night to do a 15 minute VIP room. I don't know what the hell they're all holding out for...it's not like the dances magically get any better or cheaper at closing time.

    This happened to me also, alot that night. If I had a dollar for every time I heard "maybe later" I'd have walked out of there rich. I mean I usually get a few of those every night, but this was like consistently one chair after another. It sounded like a damned broken record!

    Then, right as I'd had enough and was headed to the DR to pack my shit and go, I have not one, but TWO guys do that to me. I turned both them down and told them "Sorry, I've got to go....too bad" I mean I guess kinda stupid on my part (maye they would have spent) but fuck they'd probably have done 1 dance each and wanted to talk my ear off. At that point, I just wanted to go home, I didn't care anymroe.

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    Maybe there is some guy out there giving advice that it's easier to hook up with a stripper if you are her last customer of the night. Maybe THAT'S what they are waiting for. Or maybe they want to have a few bathroom wanks so they don't get overly excited from an ultra hot "air" dance. Back in my day,we weren't nice to custies who didn't spend. One of the favorite reactions was "Go home and f*** your wife!" I don't know why but I think that's funny. That was the cromag times when we got paid to dance and they were no house fees per se,just a percentage of champagne we sold. We tipped the bartender-that's it! So we always went home with a bit of dough and never went home in the hole! These clubs are out of order with all the fees! Cheers!!!Harlow

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    Gah! i hated night like that! I worked at a club where the house fee was determined by how busy the club was - the more guys, the more our fee - but luckily we were able to convince the boss to spend more time on the floor so that he could see that just because the club was busy, that didn't mean that custies were spending.

    Nights like this you just have to hone in on the good ones - sort the wheat from the chaff and stick to them. Take one at a time - divide and conquer!

    Oh - and i used to actually use the restaurant analogy to custies faces when they say 'oh, i'm not here for a dance'
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    Quote Originally Posted by CherryBomb954 View Post

    Then, right as I'd had enough and was headed to the DR to pack my shit and go, I have not one, but TWO guys do that to me. I turned both them down and told them "Sorry, I've got to go....too bad" I mean I guess kinda stupid on my part (maye they would have spent) but fuck they'd probably have done 1 dance each and wanted to talk my ear off. At that point, I just wanted to go home, I didn't care anymroe.
    In that situation, I usually ask what they're looking to do, and if it's worth my while I'll stay, but I make sure to get an extra large tip upfront.

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    Exactly why I've always hated weekend nights. VERY hit and miss, this exact reason (or situation anyway, I don't know what the fuck the reason is!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by virgoamm View Post
    I learned a long time ago that how packed the club is is in no way indicative of how well you'll do on any given night. It could be packed with a bunch of cheapos or guys that actually have money to spend. You'll never really know until you start working the floor and get a feel for things.
    I agree
    sometimes packed for my club just gives it a regular club like atmosphere which means no $ for the dancers

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    the "maybe later" doesnt really bother me anymore cause its so common in the huge clubs out here these days plus it really just is a different way of saying "no thanks" but it is really dumb when someone says "wow i bet u make alot of money in here! its so busy! geez how much money do u make?" and then they refuse a dance - i think chicks need to stop bragging (or lying) about how much money they make to random people because everyone thinks they dont need to pay us because somehow we all are just magically rich

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    This has happened to me twice the past weekends... I feel like I only want to work weeknights from now on. Less BS and more $.

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    My club made a rule that we have to work a fri and sat. cuz many dancers hate them and were making all the $$ sun-thurs. I was one of them,LOL.

    i could care less if the club is "packed".This means nothing to me and isnt indicative of how many rooms ill sell.

    I do so much better on slightly slower nights and spend more time in VIP as the lack of a crowd and "entertainment" helps me to push private dances and rooms more effectively. it makes sense for most guy to go ahead and spend on privates when he realizes that he needs to do so for a good time on a slow night.

    Watching the stage, hanging w buddies, and hiding in big crowds on busy nights make it way to easy for men to make excuses not to spend.

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    This irritates me to NO END.

    Our club has a hookah lounge on a raised level in back with a smaller stage, and a main floor with a large, three-pole stage at the front. We've been having a similar issue where our main floor (where girls works customers for dances and tips) is completely devoid of patrons except the occasional creepy old guy who sits three rows back from the stage with his jacket moving oddly on his lap and one hand MIA.

    Our hookah lounge is STUFFED. To the point that there's a WAITING LIST to get in.

    Problem - the hookah lounge is stuffed with fucking broke-ass 18-year-olds or couples where the girl just sits there and criticizes whatever poor dancer gets stuck on hookah deck stage. And this is consistent. Every. Fucking. Night. Monday through Sunday.

    I haven't made SHIT in the last 2 weeks. MAYBE $600. And that's bull. Pure bull. Here's to hoping it gets better for all you girls, and me too.

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    From the standpoint of more and more cash-strapped customers, they can certainly still experience a night out plus a couple of drinks plus the chance to look at and talk to a bunch of beautiful naked girls for a total cost of about $25 !!! Unfortunately, this is likely to be an increasing trend.

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