Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 53

Thread: I'm a Fool (long)

  1. #1
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2006
    Location
    St. Louis
    Posts
    815
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts

    Default I'm a Fool (long)

    This isn't strictly a "stripper" post. It just involves a stripper. And it's not another "does she like me" thread. More like, does she hate me.

    Met her 2 years ago ITC and became her regular. Her hustle is "friends". We're "friends"...can text, email, call, after a while see each other OTC. So we did, and I liked her a lot, but always knew what was going on. And I never paid her for OTC.

    Things changed. About 9 months in, I stopped going to the club to see her. She stopped being my stripper. No money, no naked. But we still emailed every day, talked about everything in our lives, saw each other every other week or so. Just regular friends, right?

    This has been the status for the last year. During that time, I've helped her through two bad break ups and a hundred little emotional crises. Middle of the night type conversations. I also have heard about and witnessed some of the shitty things she has done -- lying, cheating, withdrawing emotionally from her partners. Like everyone else, I figure "but she won't be that way to me...we have a connection."

    The connection. Like any man who gets a hot young thing half his age naked and then as a friend, I am more connected to her than she is to me. I always been up front (too up front) with exactly what the status of my feelings were at any given time. I have also told her 10 million times that feelings and actions are two different things -- I have never asked for "something more", and I am about as similar to the people she dates as I am to a moon rock.

    But from time to time I do want to know "hey how do you see me? Good, bad, indifferent?" She won't engage in this conversation. Just avoidance and then continuing on with the "friendship" as it is. This should have been the first sign I am a fool.

    Twice, during medium-depth conversations, she has told me she thinks I should not go to strip clubs, I become "too emotionally attached." This should have been the second sign I am a fool. But I assured her, it was only her, I have never sought nor had attachment, nor even regular status, with any other stripper (this is truth).

    About 4 months ago I was pestering her to do things a different way when we see each other (I work better with a plan; she is spur of the moment "what are you doing right now?") She does not compromise on this nor does she discuss it. I bitched about it and we ended up not talking for a month, though I would email from time to time. Sign number 3 that I am a fool.

    We started talking again. 2 weeks ago she has her 2nd hard break up. Emails me. "Help me." I help. Wisdom (sich as this fool has. Hand-holding. 4 am and 6 am calls and emails. Out of the ordinary. I make her smile, somewhat. She says she don't know how she would have made it without me.

    A few days later, feeling close, I decide it is time to ask for a little reciprocity and ask again for a change in how we see each other. "Oh god not this bullshit again," says she. She goes silent again, for a week, when we had been talking every day for the past 2 weeks about her problems. Sign # 4 I am a fool.

    Clearly, she is selfish. We are "close" as long as the topics are hers to choose.

    Even more clearly, I am a fool. Just writing this has made me see that. I sound like a fucking high school girl.

    I don't think I have a question any more. Other than the rhetorical, "what the fuck is wrong with people?"

  2. #2
    God/dess VegasPrincess's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2006
    Location
    MKE
    Posts
    4,660
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 182 Times in 40 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    I'm sorry honey, I don't get what this has to do with her being a stripper tho? Neither here nor there.

    I don't know if she's selfish or not, or what you're expecting? I think she's displaying a personal preference that she doesnt like to make plans in advance, so you can either except it and deal, or move on and not.

    I think you probably should back off though, as she clearly isn't romantically interested in you as you are in her.
    Sexy Jasmine after getting fucked over at work:

    God loves strippers and when guys do things like that its an automatic ticket to HELL!


    Quote Originally Posted by anomar View Post
    Perhaps you stopped spending money on her. Strippers need money to operate. They are like coin operated juke-boxes of love.

  3. #3
    God/dess hockeybobby's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    4,969
    Thanks
    1,811
    Thanked 597 Times in 382 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    This isn't strictly a "stripper" post. It just involves a stripper. And it's not another "does she like me" thread. More like, does she hate me. <snip>

    A few days later, feeling close, I decide it is time to ask for a little reciprocity and ask again for a change in how we see each other. "Oh god not this bullshit again," says she. She goes silent again, for a week, when we had been talking every day for the past 2 weeks about her problems. Sign # 4 I am a fool.

    Clearly, she is selfish. We are "close" as long as the topics are hers to choose.

    Even more clearly, I am a fool. Just writing this has made me see that. I sound like a fucking high school girl.

    I don't think I have a question any more. Other than the rhetorical, "what the fuck is wrong with people?"
    Does she like me? Why doesn't she like me? Does she hate me? etc, all fall under the general heading of "I see what she does, and I hear what she says...but what is she really thinking?

    She's selfish I suppose, but you want what you want too, right? You want to bone the girl, and you figure your best angle for doing that is play the nice guy, the "be there for ya" guy. It's not working, you're frustrated...what to do? what to do?

    I'm assuming the term "reciprocity" and "change in how we see each other" means you asked if you and she could ramp things up, or have sex, or something like that. The idea is "bullshit" to her. I bet it hurt to hear that, but it was the pure truth. She did you a big favour by not sugar coating it.

    Learn and move on.

  4. #4
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2006
    Location
    St. Louis
    Posts
    815
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasPrincess View Post
    I'm sorry honey, I don't get what this has to do with her being a stripper tho? Neither here nor there.

    I don't know if she's selfish or not, or what you're expecting? I think she's displaying a personal preference that she doesnt like to make plans in advance, so you can either except it and deal, or move on and not.

    I think you probably should back off though, as she clearly isn't romantically interested in you as you are in her.
    Yeah, first thing in my post, I said not really a "stripper" issue, although I do think having been stripper-customer will always in some way color how we see each other. Didn't have anywhere else to post this. I'm not a member of "weirdfriendshipweb.com" or anything.

  5. #5
    Moderator yoda57us's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2002
    Location
    at the Y
    Posts
    10,035
    Thanks
    2,878
    Thanked 5,834 Times in 2,332 Posts
    My Mood
    Goofy

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    I don't think I have a question any more. Other than the rhetorical, "what the fuck is wrong with people?"
    Are you talking about what's wrong with her or whats wrong with you? The short answer in both cases is nothing really.

    You want something from this woman that she is never going to give you. You think that by being there for her when she goes through an emotional crisis that she will fall in love with you. She probably never will. Eventually you will either walk away form it or decide to be a friend and nothing more. She put you in the friend (read "safe") a long time ago, you just won;t accept it.

    She appreciates your being her friend. Everyone needs a good friend when they are hurting. She knows that you have deeper feelings for her and she knows that she can take advantage of that. It's doubtful she will ever think of you as more than a reliable friend.

    Yes, sometimes friendship is about two people using each other. That's not always a bad thing as long as both sides are being honest with each other.
    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    yoda, I want you so bad it aches in the swimsuit area.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Sophia_Starina is a sensible stripper...Naked all the way.....
    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    Double team! 2 latinas with big tits!!

  6. #6
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2006
    Location
    St. Louis
    Posts
    815
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by hockeybobby View Post
    Does she like me? Why doesn't she like me? Does she hate me? etc, all fall under the general heading of "I see what she does, and I hear what she says...but what is she really thinking?

    She's selfish I suppose, but you want what you want too, right? You want to bone the girl, and you figure your best angle for doing that is play the nice guy, the "be there for ya" guy. It's not working, you're frustrated...what to do? what to do?

    I'm assuming the term "reciprocity" and "change in how we see each other" means you asked if you and she could ramp things up, or have sex, or something like that. The idea is "bullshit" to her. I bet it hurt to hear that, but it was the pure truth. She did you a big favour by not sugar coating it.

    Learn and move on.
    No, no boning or dating. Didn't ask for it, never have, I've made that clear to her for a long time. I want the emotional connection I feel like we have when she turns to me with her problems, to be there all the time, including for my problems.

    She's not interested in that. One-way street only. So while I can call her "selfish", and she is, it's probably more relevant that I'm a fool for continuing to try this. I can only control myself.

    Which is I titled this thread, "I'm a fool", not "she's a bitch."

  7. #7
    God/dess ViolaStrings's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    4,219
    Thanks
    84
    Thanked 236 Times in 120 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Seriously, she should have been paying you therapist rates.

  8. #8
    God/dess Paris's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    6,345
    Thanks
    168
    Thanked 801 Times in 419 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    It sounds to me that you are a father figure to her. Not that those kinds of relationships can't end in romance, but you spoiled her and now she is acting like a brat.

    You have to make a decision as to if the friendship is emotionally satisfying enough to tolerate her impulsivity and selfishness, or if you are tired and just ready to move on.


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Joined
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    137
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Fool? I don't know about that. You're only a fool if you continue a one sided relationship that gives you no satisfaction. She has made a comment or two to you that would have sent me hauling ass out the door if I was in your shoes.

  10. #10
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2006
    Location
    St. Louis
    Posts
    815
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    You have to make a decision as to if the friendship is emotionally satisfying enough to tolerate her impulsivity and selfishness, or if you are tired and just ready to move on.
    Yeah, I've made that decision a few times. I've been unable to stick with it.

    This time feels different.

  11. #11
    Senior Member whitelight97402's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2008
    Location
    Eugene Oregon
    Posts
    144
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    hey man, don't feel like a fool, everyone's been there and atleast you recognize the signs. personally, i think you are already screwed with her because you have fed her what she needs and she knows she doesn't need to give anything in return. in fact she can completely blow you off, keep you waiting and then you come right back. her feelings aren't going to develop over time with how you are going, you need to take a long long break from her and do other things, then it is possible, but doubtful. sorry, my 2 cents....

    your consulation prize is in knowing that you helped someone, but that all you get.

  12. #12
    Member JRA33606's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    42
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    This isn't a stripper thing, it's a girl guy thing.

    Look, you decided to ask about changing the relationship. She more or less conveyed she didn't want to change it. What did you want to change it to?

    Anyway, it takes two to move a relationship along. You need to accept that it is parked... forever... or take another road.

    I think there is a song... Everybody plays the fool.
    Okay, so your heart is broken
    You sit around mopin'
    Cryin' and cryin'
    You say you`re even thinkin' about dyin'
    Well, before you do anything rash, dig this

    Everybody plays the fool sometime
    There's no exception to the rule
    Listen, baby, it may be factual, may be cruel
    I ain't lyin', everybody plays the fool
    Falling in love is such an easy thing to do
    And there's no guarantee that the one you love
    Is gonna love you

  13. #13
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2006
    Location
    St. Louis
    Posts
    815
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by JRA33606 View Post
    This isn't a stripper thing, it's a girl guy thing.
    You (and Viola) are 90% right on this. However, I think 10% of what's going on is still stripper-customer based. From her side, she's never said it, but I believe she has a block from completely trusting a guy she met in the club as a regular. She'll trust me with her feelings...but not with mine.

    As to me, I'll freely admit that I feel closer to her than is rationally justified, based in part on having had her naked in my lap many many times, while developing feelings for her, before we stopped that and became "friends only". I can still close my eyes and conjure up the images and the feelings.

    That's not a basis for a good friendship, and the falsity of those emotions (they're certainly not mutual) is part of the reason I'm a fool.

  14. #14
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2006
    Location
    St. Louis
    Posts
    815
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by JRA33606 View Post
    Look, you decided to ask about changing the relationship. She more or less conveyed she didn't want to change it. What did you want to change it to?
    I wanted more control and a more regular friendship. She decides when we get together, when she can (meaning: when she wants to). We talk mostly about the problems of her life. When we're emailing back and forth for a half hour, if I venture into topics she doesn't want to talk about, she simply doesn't respond. The emailing stops.

    This isn't even guy-girl necessarily. It can be guy-guy. In high school and part of college, my best friend was "alpha dog" type A. When we went out, we did what he wanted to do and went where he wanted to go. Driving around, we always listened to the music he wanted to. Crap like that.

    This feels exactly the same. A couple of years into college, I said "fuck it, it's not worth it, he's too self-centered". Basically stopped seeing him as a friend. I had other friends, and life went on.

    I guess I'm at the same point here.

  15. #15
    Senior Member
    Joined
    Nov 2007
    Location
    .
    Posts
    123
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 60 Times in 27 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Have you ever heard of this book called No More Mr. Nice Guy? It describes Nice Guys as sharing the following traits:

    * Nice guys seek the approval of others.
    * Nice guys try to hide their perceived flaws and mistakes.
    * Nice guys put other people's needs and wants before their own.
    * Nice guys sacrifice their personal power and often play the role of a victim.
    * Nice guys tend to be disconnected from other men and from their own masculine energy.
    * Nice guys co-create relationships that are less than satisfying.
    * Nice guys create situations in which they do not have very much good sex.
    * Nice guys frequently fail to live up their full potential.
    You seem like you're falling into the pattern of doing nice things for others with the hope that they will recipricate. You're hoping that if you're nice enough, she'll eventually come around. You seem like you've come to the realization that she's using you and you're obviously not happy with that. You need to either fix the relationship or move on.

    I would recommend taking a look at the book. It might improve many areas of your life.

  16. #16
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2006
    Location
    St. Louis
    Posts
    815
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by NickT View Post
    Have you ever heard of this book called No More Mr. Nice Guy? It describes Nice Guys as sharing the following traits:



    You seem like you're falling into the pattern of doing nice things for others with the hope that they will recipricate. You're hoping that if you're nice enough, she'll eventually come around. You seem like you've come to the realization that she's using you and you're obviously not happy with that. You need to either fix the relationship or move on.

    I would recommend taking a look at the book. It might improve many areas of your life.

    Sure, I'm a "nice guy", and I've had that syndrome, but I've moved beyond that kind of psychology in my life. I take responsibility for having wanted to do whatever I've done. She never made me do anything.

    And it's my responsibility, not hers, to decide how much will I put up with to be somewhat clos-ish to her. It really has nothing to do with being "nice", it is more just a cost-benefit analysis. The return on my personal investment is kind of matching the market right now.

  17. #17
    Featured Member Cassandra39's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    800
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 19 Times in 17 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    She just sounds crazy it's weird she'll do this song and dance with you but not let you request a hang out. If she viewed you as a custie she wouldn't talk to you unless it was for money, so I'm confused what she sees you as. She's nuts.

  18. #18
    Veteran Member
    Joined
    May 2005
    Location
    England
    Posts
    598
    Thanks
    409
    Thanked 259 Times in 136 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    I think her being a stripper is more relevant to how you see the situation than her. You talk about being able to close your eyes and conjour up the feelings of her sitting naked in your lap. I'm pretty sue that she doesn't give that much of a second thought now that you are just a regular guy friend to her. You are confusing the false intimacy you felt with her then with the real life (frankly messy and flawed as all humans are) intimacy of being real life friends with her now.

    Young women will always have endless drama in their lives and an older man is often the perfect foil for this - wise and stable and more available than their father - and often when that female's drama starts to level off and her life becomes more stable and happy then the older man friend will find himself sidelined.

    In short, i don't think you have a realistic expectation of this friendship - you are looking for something equal when clearly it is not and you need to either accept this for what it is or walk away and concentrate on equal friendships with regular accessible women.

  19. #19
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2006
    Location
    St. Louis
    Posts
    815
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by spartaca View Post
    I think her being a stripper is more relevant to how you see the situation than her. You talk about being able to close your eyes and conjour up the feelings of her sitting naked in your lap. I'm pretty sue that she doesn't give that much of a second thought now that you are just a regular guy friend to her. You are confusing the false intimacy you felt with her then with the real life (frankly messy and flawed as all humans are) intimacy of being real life friends with her now.

    Young women will always have endless drama in their lives and an older man is often the perfect foil for this - wise and stable and more available than their father - and often when that female's drama starts to level off and her life becomes more stable and happy then the older man friend will find himself sidelined.

    In short, i don't think you have a realistic expectation of this friendship - you are looking for something equal when clearly it is not and you need to either accept this for what it is or walk away and concentrate on equal friendships with regular accessible women.
    Excellent post, I think it describes the situation, including her mindset, exactly. Are you sure you're not her?

    Re: drama, I do hear from her a lot more during a "crisis". I have actually complained to her that I don't get much of the "happy Lily" (fake name), I just get "drama Lily".

    Re: the stripperness, I do think this is a large part of my problem, and a good reason this belongs on SW. Of course she doesn't think about it at all. She's naked on multiple guys' laps a day whenever she's working. I was literally one of a thousand.

    On the other hand, I had my hands over every inch of her naked body at the same time I was growing to like her mentally and emotionally. This is a full contact club. I don't see how it's possible for a guy to step back from that and say "ok, we're just medium-level friends, I'm cool with that." I was perfectly willing to stop the (fake) physical closeness and replace it with (real) emotional closeness. I wanted that way more than she did, I guess. Which falls under the "can a regular ever be a true friend?" category, perfect for SW CC.

    And there's a small twist. Back when I was a regular, she showed me some lingerie pics on her camera phone, said she had sent them to a guy friend of hers, her age. "Someone you're dating?" "No, I would never date him, I'm not attracted to him. We just hang out." I told her he is probably going to get annoyed, she's getting him all hot and bothered with no payoff. She laughed uproariously, as if she really enjoyed the thought of doing that.

    Fast forward, a year later. From time to time throughout our friendship I would always get pics from her. "Look at me on the beach!" "Look at my new outfit!" Stuff like that. This summer, a few different times, she sent me "hot" ones. Some topless. Most to "show me" new lingerie she had bought. A couple bottomless.

    I can only imagine it is similar to the guy last year. But it does create a feeling of "closeness", false or otherwise. No one else sends me stuff like this.

    It just seems like all of this is adding up to, this is a friendship that is not gonna work. /:

  20. #20
    God/dess Golden_Rule's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2005
    Location
    The last garden in the Garden State
    Posts
    2,480
    Thanks
    229
    Thanked 372 Times in 215 Posts
    My Mood
    Cool

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by hockeybobby View Post
    Does she like me? Why doesn't she like me? Does she hate me? etc, all fall under the general heading of "I see what she does, and I hear what she says...but what is she really thinking?
    When you are in a situation where the other person in a relationship you share won't let you in on what's going on between her ears [though I don't think that applies here because this dancer has very much let this fellow know what is going on between her ears: You are here for me when I need you. Period.] than the matter is simple to resolve.

    Do you get what YOU want.

    If the answer is yes continue on with the relationship as is.

    If the answer is no move on.

    Very, very, simple.

    BTW Every, you aren't being foolish. You are being indecisive.

    This woman knows EXACTLY what she wants out of this relationship. You're acting like you are confused. I say so because if you were sure, and your weren't getting it, you'd already be gone.
    Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.


    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

  21. #21
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2006
    Location
    St. Louis
    Posts
    815
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Rule View Post
    When you are in a situation where the other person in a relationship you share won't let you in on what's going on between her ears [though I don't think that applies here because this dancer has very much let this fellow know what is going on between her ears: You are here for me when I need you. Period.] than the matter is simple to resolve.

    Do you get what YOU want.

    If the answer is yes continue on with the relationship as is.

    If the answer is no move on.

    Very, very, simple.

    BTW Every, you aren't being foolish. You are being indecisive.

    This woman knows EXACTLY what she wants out of this relationship. You're acting like you are confused. I say so because if you were sure, and your weren't getting it, you'd already be gone.
    Another good, true post.

    At my age, life station, appearance, and level of game, I ain't getting close to any other attractive, hot 20 year olds IRL, period. In the club only...where I can pay for all of it I can afford.

    So "moving on" means giving up that aspect of my life completely...which is what makes it so hard, and me indecisive (as you put it), or a fool (as I do).

    Plus,other than her being a hot 20 y/o, I just liked the girl, her personality and socioeconomic background are highly similar to mine. Still, I know what I need to do. GR, you're that there comes a time when it's just not worth it any more.

  22. #22
    Member
    Joined
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    45
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    I am gonna give it to you in simple terms.
    She sees you as a good-reliable crying shoulder, she closed her legs to you a while back and once a woman closes her legs, you can't open them. If you didn't get where you want to get righ away, it will never happen.
    You will do better on telling her that she can count on you and you just realized that is foolish of you to expect anything from her, ignore her a little but in a nice way, don't return her calls / messages half the time but remain being nice, just let her know with actions that you have a life besides the club. (you should get one btw) Stop going to the club for a few weeks but just text her once a week to make sure shes ok. After a few months of this, of her realizing that shes got you on the palm of her hand no more, if her attitude has not changed, it never will and you can move on.

  23. #23
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2006
    Location
    St. Louis
    Posts
    815
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by shadowfast View Post
    I am gonna give it to you in simple terms.
    She sees you as a good-reliable crying shoulder, she closed her legs to you a while back and once a woman closes her legs, you can't open them. If you didn't get where you want to get righ away, it will never happen.
    You will do better on telling her that she can count on you and you just realized that is foolish of you to expect anything from her, ignore her a little but in a nice way, don't return her calls / messages half the time but remain being nice, just let her know with actions that you have a life besides the club. (you should get one btw) Stop going to the club for a few weeks but just text her once a week to make sure shes ok. After a few months of this, of her realizing that shes got you on the palm of her hand no more, if her attitude has not changed, it never will and you can move on.
    Right on sentiment, wrong on specifics. I haven't been to the club in a year, in fact I remember the last time I gave her money -- 12/17/07. I have plenty of life outside the club, I don't even go there. "Get an emotional life outside of her" would be more accurate.

    And, I haven't been working to get her to open her legs. Dopey and pathetic as it sounds, I've been working to get her to open her heart. Once again: I'm a fool.

  24. #24
    Member
    Joined
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    45
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    heart, legs, tomeito, tomato.... as far as I have seen, a good dancer checks the heart at the door. So all it's left in there is lapdances, drinks and legs.
    P.S. Bewbies too

  25. #25
    Veteran Member
    Joined
    May 2005
    Location
    England
    Posts
    598
    Thanks
    409
    Thanked 259 Times in 136 Posts

    Default Re: I'm a Fool (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    Excellent post, I think it describes the situation, including her mindset, exactly. Are you sure you're not her? /:
    I promise i am not her - but i have been a young woman and whilst not carried on in EXACTLY that way i have knowingly taken advantage of an older male shoulder to cry on, aware that their shoulder was there primarily because they wanted more, to see me through drama that might bore/ annoy regular friends. So i am giving you an honest insight.

    It sounds as though you have worked it out in your head now - which is good - because any action you take from this point forward will be informed. Now, there's just the small matter of my bill for my services

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Before I look like a fool
    By Queenzshorty in forum Newbie Board
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 01-17-2011, 05:59 AM
  2. Replies: 11
    Last Post: 09-14-2009, 04:15 PM
  3. Replies: 23
    Last Post: 07-06-2008, 11:06 PM
  4. Am I a fool or what?
    By boggy72 in forum Customer Conversation
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 05-22-2008, 08:16 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •