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    Last Monday, during a moderately slow night, a dancer sat down at a table next to mine, and started to talk with a somewhat shy, solo customer who was about 25 years old. The dancer was hot! She worked on him for about 15-20 minutes; from the little that I could overhear (with me running back and forth to the stage, tipping whoever was on the stage), she was not hustling for a VIP, just for a single LD.

    She moved beautifully, was hawt, and I would have loved to devote a large portion of my budget that night on her. I threw a few glances her way, and she mine.

    Although I was not desperate, nor do I suffer from any white-knight-to-the-rescue complex, I would have loved to go over to her and try to steal her away for myself. Is that OK? I know that stealing customers is considered in SCs as not OK, but what about the other way around? IRL I would never do that, but in a SC I realize that rules may be different.

    Is it considered OK for me, as a customer, to go over to a dancer hustling another customer, and try to get her for myself?

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    Default Re: Stealing dancers from other customers?

    as long as you're willing to spend money on her, I dont see why that would be a problem... Specially if the current to be custy is not being proactive about it...
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    wow, great question...never thought about it as it has yet to happen to me...

    I think, if after 15 mins the custie she is talking to is not proactive about buying a dance, it would be the best thing to go over there and use the line "i'm sorry, but do you mind if i steal you away for a few dances?"...

    Not only will you get what you want by spending time with her, but i'm sure she will look more desirable to the man she was just hustling... as he will see she is someone in demand... its a win-win for you and the dancer...

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    I do that all the time, if its someone i want a dance from and dude is just sitting there running his mouth to too long i'll go over to her and ask for a dance. I've gotten some really mean looks from the guys but oh well, when i finish with my dances i'll always say "you can go back to your boyfriend now"

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    Ladies, here's a free demographic research tip for you: If a gal I would like to go do dances with is sitting with another customer, I'm going to consider her taken. If I am ready to spend, I am not going to wait all night, or an hour, or even a half hour for her. If her stage set just happens to come up (hope her timing is good), I will then make a proposition to go do dances. Just a little something to think about when you use a regular, or anybody for that matter, as an anchor.

    And if the guy IS paying for your time, great, but I'd suspect in most cases where I see a dancer sitting with a customer for a long period, she isn't getting compensated, or is getting it at a small fraction of what she could be making doing dances. I can't tell you how many times that I've seen this, how its gotten worse over the last five years, and how irritating it is to watch. Just a few gals doing this devalues the time of every girl in that club.

    This is precisely why I tend to snicker a bit about comments on here regarding how "time is money". I just wish we saw more real world examples that backed up the mantra, and fewer examples that flew in the face of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsteve View Post
    Is it considered OK for me, as a customer, to go over to a dancer hustling another customer, and try to get her for myself?
    No. In fact it's moronic and will probably piss-off both the dancer and the customer. She is working him for his money. She will work you after she gets his money. Try to understand that you are not rescuing her, you are most likely costing her money.

    What exactly makes you think that you are more worthy of her attention than the guy she was already talking to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    No. In fact it's moronic and will probably piss-off both the dancer and the customer. She is working him for his money. She will work you after she gets his money. Try to understand that you are not rescuing her, you are most likely costing her money.

    What exactly makes you think that you are more worthy of her attention than the guy she was already talking to?
    I have to disagree... if after 15 mins they haven't budged... you should go over and get the dancer. And she can come back to the orginial customer after she is done to continue her hustle if she thinks that she has a sale.

    It would definitely not piss me off.... and i wouldn't think you were rescuing the dancer... merely asking her for dances. And its not costing her money if you are buying her time.

    If the guy is an ass, he will be pissed off. But as a dancer, u have no right to sit there and try to waste my time for free... we can talk more in the CR if u really want to talk that bad. More than 15 is too much time to waste for free...





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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Mia Roberts View Post
    I have to disagree... if after 15 mins they haven't budged... you should go over and get the dancer. And she can come back to the orginial customer after she is done to continue her hustle if she thinks that she has a sale.
    I'd say if a guy hasn't budget after 15 minutes, or even ten, he likely isn't going to. In any regard, I'm not going to have enough patience to wait that long for Dancer A when in that timespan, I could be doing business with Dancers B, C or D.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Mia Roberts View Post
    It would definitely not piss me off.... and i wouldn't think you were rescuing the dancer... merely asking her for dances. And its not costing her money if you are buying her time.
    There are more tactful ways to do this than interrupt what may a potential sale in the making. If a guy is that insistent on getting a particular gal, he should tip a waitress to go bother her.

    I cannot tell from across the room whether a dancer is hustling a customer or just chilling out with him, therefore I'm going to be a gentleman and assume the former. If she wishes to give the impression that she's available she shouldn't be giving out signals that indicate she isn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Mia Roberts View Post
    But as a dancer, u have no right to sit there and try to waste my time for free... we can talk more in the CR if u really want to talk that bad. More than 15 is too much time to waste for free...
    Nobody is keeping you chained to a particular customer's table. If you choose to sit with a customer, it is on your own will. If you choose not to pop to question after a couple of songs, it is on your own will. If you choose to keep placating a deliberate time waster it is on your will. It is not the responsibility or obligation of those of us who will pay you for your time to save you from those who will not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish View Post
    I'd say if a guy hasn't budget after 15 minutes, or even ten, he likely isn't going to. In any regard, I'm not going to have enough patience to wait that long for Dancer A when in that timespan, I could be doing business with Dancers B, C or D.


    There are more tactful ways to do this than interrupt what may a potential sale in the making. If a guy is that insistent on getting a particular gal, he should tip a waitress to go bother her.

    I cannot tell from across the room whether a dancer is hustling a customer or just chilling out with him, therefore I'm going to be a gentleman and assume the former. If she wishes to give the impression that she's available she shouldn't be giving out signals that indicate she isn't.


    Nobody is keeping you chained to a particular customer's table. If you choose to sit with a customer, it is on your own will. If you choose not to pop to question after a couple of songs, it is on your own will. If you choose to keep placating a deliberate time waster it is on your will. It is not the responsibility or obligation of those of us who will pay you for your time to save you from those who will not.
    You can do it that way, no one said you couldn't. But the OP clearly said that he wanted Dancer A....not dancer b, c or d. And he wants dancer A and watched dancer A sit for 15 mins with a customer... and he WANTS to interrupt.... i disagree that it will piss the dancer off. I think it is a good idea.

    And i said that if it pisses the customer off, he has no right to be angry. If he wants to talk that bad, he could ask for a CR. Otherwise, he should be smart enough to understand that business is business. And that if he wants that dancer, he should act on it sooner next time... or wait and grab her when she is done.

    And a + is that having another customer ask for that dancer... makes the dancer look more desirable and in demand... and the customer might hop on it next time around and ask her or agree if she asks him for dances.

    and i have sold CR rooms after 15 mins of talking, so not every sale is hopeless after 10 mins of talking and not closing a sale. I have even left and came back to the customer to make a sale. So she will not loose money if she leaves and comes back.





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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    No. In fact it's moronic and will probably piss-off both the dancer and the customer. She is working him for his money. She will work you after she gets his money. Try to understand that you are not rescuing her, you are most likely costing her money.

    What exactly makes you think that you are more worthy of her attention than the guy she was already talking to?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Mia Roberts View Post
    I have to disagree... if after 15 mins they haven't budged... you should go over and get the dancer. And she can come back to the orginial customer after she is done to continue her hustle if she thinks that she has a sale.

    It would definitely not piss me off.... and i wouldn't think you were rescuing the dancer... merely asking her for dances. And its not costing her money if you are buying her time.

    If the guy is an ass, he will be pissed off. But as a dancer, u have no right to sit there and try to waste my time for free... we can talk more in the CR if u really want to talk that bad. More than 15 is too much time to waste for free...
    I've never had a dancer get pissed off and blow me off for "interrupting" her and another dude talking for a long period of time, of course the guy is going to be pissed but like i said earlier all i've gotten is a some mean looks from then. When i've done it she's has excused herself and come did the dances and i think only once have i seen them go back to the other guy. I don't see how you are costing the dancer money when you are interrupting her to give her some money. I believe i'm more worthy of her attention because i'm giving her what she is there for money

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    I agree that you should tip a waitress and have her go over to the dancer and say "so and so wants you to come sit with him... he wants some dances" or w/e.... cuz there's been times when i'm sitting with a guy and another guy will come up and start talking.....yeah, it's really fuckin rude. BUT if you must come up to me, then say "sorry to interupt you guys, but could you come over by me when you get a chance?"
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    I agree with Curvy Cutie because it could cause trouble if you interupt another customer talking to a dancer. Some guys might take this as a personal affront or attack. You could ask the waitress to say "When you are finished here,I have a customer who would like to buy some dances from you?" Then it's up to the dancer if she wants to leave her current customer immediately or a little later. This also gives the dancer an opportunity to say "I'd love to be spending some time alone with you so we won't be interupted like this,maybe I can show YOU the champagne lounge" or whatever. Sounds like a win win situation. But I don't think a customer should EVER approach a woman when she's with another customer. Cheers! Harlow PS And yes Curvy is right;don't forget to tip the waitress who gives your message to the dancer.

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    That is absolutely the best approach, either use a Bartender or waitress to let her know that you are interested in having her dance for you, or very polite and educated get close by and make sure she knows that would like to have her dance for you. I do it not often but I do if I want someone to dance for me, I may even just start looking at her and then when she notices me (if she does) I have the bartender, floorman, waitress tell them to come over. And of course tipping is always appreciated by the parties involved.... If she responds to your request then you get your dances, she gets her money and you're both happy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Mia Roberts View Post
    I have to disagree... if after 15 mins they haven't budged... you should go over and get the dancer. And she can come back to the orginial customer after she is done to continue her hustle if she thinks that she has a sale.
    LOL, maybe I'm missing something but isn't it your job to ask him if he wants a dance? Honestly, it's not much of a "hustle" the way you are describing it.

    Sorry but cutting in on another guy is just plain rude. It's the dancer's job to decide when she is wasting her time, not another customers.
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    It happens a lot at my club. Usually a customer will ask a floor guy to point them out for us, so we'll know we're wanted somewhere, so that's not as awkward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    LOL, maybe I'm missing something but isn't it your job to ask him if he wants a dance? Honestly, it's not much of a "hustle" the way you are describing it.

    Sorry but cutting in on another guy is just plain rude. It's the dancer's job to decide when she is wasting her time, not another customers.
    My job is to provide my time for money. How we get to that point can be up to me, up to management, or up to the customer....

    Some girls don't hustle at all, they let the customers come to them. They don't need to hustle.

    Its like selling goods, you can go door to door with your product... or you can advertise and let the customer can come to you... either way, you are making a sale... and money is money :0





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    I've tipped a waiter/waitress to put a discreet word in the ear of a favoured dancer. Never fails.
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    I would never interrupt a dancer when she is sitting with a customer. If I know her I might wave as I walk by but that's it. Interrupting is 1) rude 2) could cause a fight if the guy has been drinking a lot and 3) it makes more sense to tip her when she goes up on stage and let her know then that I am interested (unless otherwise occupied with another dancer) when she is finished with her current customer.

    Pretty much Club Etiquette 101 for most guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish View Post
    Ladies, here's a free demographic research tip for you: If a gal I would like to go do dances with is sitting with another customer, I'm going to consider her taken. If I am ready to spend, I am not going to wait all night, or an hour, or even a half hour for her.
    Which is why I wish guys would understand that YES..I'd rather sit alone them with them for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Mia Roberts View Post
    Its like selling goods, you can go door to door with your product... or you can advertise and let the customer can come to you... either way, you are making a sale... and money is money :0
    Um, no, you are not. If you sit with a guy for fifteen or twenty minutes, never ask him for a dance and he gets up and leaves you have not made a sale, you have wasted your time. Granted it's your time to waste...

    Money is money but not if the guy doesn't spend any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guenevere View Post
    Tipping a waitress is spot on. The waitress can be discreet, and in my opinion this is the only appropriate way to go. And if you're wanting to put a larger guarantee on it have the waitress slip her a $20 and say "the guy over there wants a dance"
    I have found that just approaching the dancer on stage and letting her know I am interested is more effective. But if she is entangled with some dude and he has paid the DJ for allowing her to sit out her rotation, recruiting a waitress might work.

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    Personally, I like when customers steal me away from hard-to-hustle guys. There's nothing better for my business than if it looks like I'm so in demand that the guys can't even wait for me to stop talking before getting a dance with me. If nothing else, it's an ego boost. But maybe that's just me.

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    ^^ I think approaching you on stage is better...I mean who wants to get in a fight with a drunk customer? Plus that shows you respect in terms of acknowledging your investment in the other guy but clearly letting you know that if he is a loser and worthy of discarding you have an immediate new opportunity.

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    Yeah I guess if you REALLY REALLY think through it, that'd make more sense FBR. But all I'm sayin' is that it's a pretty nice ego boost when you're trying to squeeze $20 out of someone who won't budge and a high roller comes up and asks if you wouldn't mind taking time out of your busy schedule for a champagne room. Catch mah drift?

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Yeah I guess if you REALLY REALLY think through it, that'd make more sense FBR. But all I'm sayin' is that it's a pretty nice ego boost when you're trying to squeeze $20 out of someone who won't budge and a high roller comes up and asks if you wouldn't mind taking time out of your busy schedule for a champagne room. Catch mah drift?
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