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    with the economy so bad right now have the strip clubs been looking for less new girls? is it harder to get a job now than before? or is this industry not affected by the economy and still stable and pretty much the same?

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    My money has been less than years past, but consistent.

    As for the hiring thing JUST DOOOOOOO ITTTT already!!

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    im waiting for my 6' inch shoes and outfit from snaz75...and im also waiting til my period stops. hopefully ill be trying out by the end of this month. haha i know! i've been posting so many questions. i'm so nervous and excited i actually keep dreaming about being a dancer =D

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    From what I've seen the clubs are still hiring. Many clubs have the attitude of "the strongest will survive". Many companies expect employee loyalty, but don't necessarily return the favor... which can also be said for the clubs. You just have to make sure that you will consistently be one of the strongest in your club. Practice your hustle techniques, get to the gym, take care of your appearance - these are all really important right now if you want to continue dancing through this recession. Also start looking at how to create other streams of income - Avalon (i.e. Britney) has some good information on that. This might be stocks, bonds, or businesses that run themselves after a bit of initial effort.
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    Many clubs don't care about their dancers or their dancers income. They care.... but they don't REALLY care enough to limit the number of girls to where each girl will make great $ during every shift. It is TRULY just like Kylea said (strong only survival ). Think of it this way. You pay them to be there. Do you think they will want more or less dancers on staff feeding them a house fee? Do you think a club will sell more drinks to customers by having more pretty girls on staff or less dancers on each shift ? The problem with this set up is that it can sometimes feel like a club vs. dancers dueling match where the $ can get diluted due to the clubs approach and not limiting the # of girls on a shift. Now I'm feeling bad for writing that. I didn't mean to sound discouraging ( I'm not sure how much you feel you need to make a shift to be happy ), because there IS still money out there to be had. I just wanted to make you aware of something that surprised me as a new dancer (currently on a mini retirement, will probably work again in early 09). I will say that I think new dancers should start out as part timers if possible and text the waters first ( I'm not sure if you intend to dance full or part time).

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    ^^ I agree but i also disagree

    I feel that clubs are hiring less. Standards are getting higher...and its getting even more harder for minority dancers (i don't know your race op, i'm just throwing that out tho)

    I have called a few clubs and they told me they were flat out not hiring or not hiring black girls (before they even seen what i look like).

    Times are hard and more women (and trannys { michelle jade }lol) are getting into stripping. Clubs do like lots of girls, yes (more money into house, more girls for customers), but they also can't over hire women because money will be way too thin for the dancers already there... and girls will start to leave to find better stripping gigs. No one is gonna stay where they can't make money. And contrary to belief... club owners do think about that stuff.

    Not being discouraging, because you may be hot, have the goods, or be just what a club is looking for. You could probably still get a job at a decent club. But to answer your question, yes... i think the economy has made it harder. So don't be disappointed if you are turned down, its probably not you at all.


    oh...ps. (edit) Its not about being "new" at all. If thats what you are scared about, that has nothing to do with hiring. If you are hot with confidence...being new won't make a difference...





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    ^ I can see that. I started dancing in 2008. I wanted to tell her what I've seen personally. Maybe is was easier to get hired before.

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    ^^ thats what i heard :/

    but it probably also depends on where you are! I'm in a big city with very few clubs... so it might be hard here in general... and the economy has made it even harder





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    Yea...I'm a minority and I also live in the OC...with LOTS of beautiful women. But like everyone said I wont know til I try right? Speaking of which, I've never been to a strip club before so I have no idea how girls act or dress. Should I go sometime as a customer FIRST and THEN ask for an audition? Or should I just go and audition?

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    If you haven't been, you might want to scout a few clubs first. Bring your stripper bag (leave it in your car ) and if you like what you see , ask to audition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trixforyou327 View Post
    Yea...I'm a minority and I also live in the OC...with LOTS of beautiful women. But like everyone said I wont know til I try right? Speaking of which, I've never been to a strip club before so I have no idea how girls act or dress. Should I go sometime as a customer FIRST and THEN ask for an audition? Or should I just go and audition?
    you never know till you try, but i'm gonna let you know.... its much harder for black dancers in better clubs because they only have x number of spots available for us. Hispanic and asians have ALOT better chance. You just said minority, so i can't assume you are black.

    even with that being said. i have no idea what you look like, you can be drop dead gorgeous with "white" features... and get in no problem. So audition every where you can (and feel comfortable) auditioning.

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    Just be aware that regardless of how hot you are the OC may not be easy for a black or latina dancer to get hired in, dont plan on being able to find work right away..so if you do itll be a positive suprise.

    Im at the point where i straight up tell clubs my ethnicity and describe myself modestly,before i go so that i dont waste my time if they dont want minorities, i learn alot about the clubs this way.

    The reaction says alot.

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    There is only one place i can work at so far because im not 21 yet so all the 21+ clubs wont hire me. This 18+ place i cant reach them by phone so i have to just show up. I'm probably going to try and check the place out today with a friend.

    Dont want to audition when my shoes and clothes from snaz75 havent arrived yet. =D

    Thanks everyone for the comments! I guess its understandable why dancers usually arent cool with each other (esp when your new) because of the whole "survival of the fittest"

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    The economy sucks everywhere, if you wont to do it, I say go for it.

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    the economy is terrible right now... but every club I've been to hires me on the spot. so I dunno how much it's affected the hiring process. the money hasn't been too hot lately but I guess it still beats working a regular job that doesn't pay much per hour.

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    seriously! i worked at a restaurant as a hostess for a few months and only made $8/hr. working at hospitality jobs suck and i would honestly be willing to take more bullshit from people making more as a dancer than a hostess hearing people complain and whine all day for 8 bucks.

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    I can tell you that from my experience , if someones non-dancing earning potential is currently $8 an hour , they will probably be very happy with dancing money.

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    I've been dancing since 1999. IMO, it's MUCH easier to get hired as an entertainer now than it was during the 2002 recession. Clubs standards are lower and house fees make up for the decline in beverage sales and door fees.
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    ^^^ agreed ... post 9/11 was horrible ! Of course, at that time the 'show business' component of exotic dancing hadn't seriously turned the corner towards the 'sex business' either ... meaning that the 'calibre' of dancers still mattered to clubowners.

    Also agreed that, these days, clubowners have discovered that they can 'afford' to hire a whole bunch of dancers ... to the point where dancers outnumber customers. The reason of course is the gradual evolution of the industry's business model to one where the clubowners are earning the majority of their money from the dancers (via stage fees, via percentage splits on private dances / VIP's etc.) instead of from club customers. Along similar lines, these days clubowners stand to earn far more money from dancers who are 7's and 8's that sell multiple private dances laced with 'extras' than they stand to earn from dancers who are 9's and 10's who sell one or two air dances.

    Thus to be blunt, it doesn't matter a bit to many clubowners whether or not their dancers are earning good money, as long as the club is able to collect $50 per shift in house fees plus able to collect X percent of every private dance / VIP that dancers sell.

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    OMG, i just started dancing and the economy is effecting me or my hustle is definitely broken. i was originally a waitress and moved over for better money so i could pay tuition. i'm of ethnic origin and its always hit or miss with guys. i can usually chat forever with the right people, but have no idea how to sell myself.

    Question: Why do dancers have to pay a house fee?

    Minimum for house mom/dj I understand, but house?

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    I really hate making references to dates... but Britney is right. It seemed like the clubs were a heck of a lot more picky back then than they are now. Of course, the money was also better...
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