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    So I was watching house bunny and got to the part about Shelley being allergic to arethromicin or whatever.
    I found this when I googled it trying to find out what it was


    Stuff like this just makes me sick. i will never understand men who are evil enough to take advantage of these poor trafficked women. This disgusts me so much. What is worse is at the end the guy says he has a long term gf. i really hope his gf gains some self esteem and dumps the fucking shit hole. He is a danger to not just her sanity, but her health. Uck i could not look in the mirror if i was that evil as to take advantage of someone else's helplessness. To me these men are no different than people who open up factories and expect people in poor countries to work for pennies a day so that they can become millionaires and live a life of leisure while these poor individuals slave away so they can have enough money to halfway survive.

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    eww and read the advice the doctor is giving the sicko
    "I see no reason to alter your sex life at this point or to use condoms"
    WTF???The doctor is probably some disgusting exploitative piece of shit too. You see no reason for him to stop fucking prostitutes ? Without protection at that? Omg! all the while he has a gf who probably has no clue this is going on!

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    There's several points I would like to make about this post you have linked up to. But before I do so I would like to add that this is not professional medical advice.

    NGU, or nongonococcal urethritis, CAN be caused by non-STD Pathogens. The Dr giving the advice in this article did NOT see the patient firsthand, or run any pathogen tests himself. In my opinion that makes his opinion moot, but I digress as that is not my original point.

    He states in the article that the symtpoms came on too soon to be NGU, which is true. He states in his question he presented symptoms 2 days after "exposure". Not possible. The Dr who wrote this advice article stated so himself, and said it is highly likely that if the patient DID have NGU, he was exposed BEFORE he left on this trip, and before his interaction with the bar girl.

    To me, the advice about not using condoms has both sides of the coin. One, if he was exposed BEFORE said trip and has truly been monogamous, it is likely that either a) he got it from his current partner, b) got it from a non-STD pathogen and she has already been exposed, or c) he cheated on her way prior. GOOD advice would to be for them BOTH to get tested (in his case, re-tested). Do you see where I am going with this?

    It is true from what I have learned that the risk of getting HIV from oral sex is very low. Doesn't make it obsolete, but it does make it low. You'd have to swallow a lot of spit.

    As far as the sex trade thing, yes, I agree it is sick. I detest hobbyists with a burning, seething, pit of my stomach hatred. Whenever I meet one it does keep me up at night because I think they add to the problem. I am all for legalising prostitution in a safe, controlled, CONSENSUAL environment. But it isn't as simple as "stop fucking prostitutes", pinkpuff, and it upsets me you would use such a derogatory manner of address for another sex worker, especially one you feel is being exploited against her will.

    The Doctor in question, in my personal humble opinion, did the best advice giving he good given what he knew about the circumstances, minus the no-condom thing. I think you should realise how extraordinarily difficult it is to give a diagnosis without being hands on. Not everyone is House M.D. And I do hope, when I complete my education, that people would give me the same "permission" to have human error once in awhile.

    This rant is brought to you by a frazzled, sleep-deprived Mediocrity, who reads too much.

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    Calling a person who sells sex a prostitute is no more derogatory than calling a person who takes her clothes off for money a stripper. i dont understand how someone on this site would be insulted. What would you like me to call them "bar girls"?
    The doctor gave the best advice he could give? How about he tell them to stop exploiting trafficked women? instead he said "yeah go continue to take advantage of women in starving countries who have no other means of supporting themselves, oh and dont use a condom" How is that the "best advice"?
    To say what he did was human error is like saying people who kill just made one "error". No sorry, this is thought out and coldblooded and it makes me sick that you would stand up for him. I would not be able to live with myself if I exploited someone like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkpuff View Post
    Calling a person who sells sex a prostitute is no more derogatory than calling a person who takes her clothes off for money a stripper. i dont understand how someone on this site would be insulted. What would you like me to call them "bar girls"?
    The doctor gave the best advice he could give? How about he tell them to stop exploiting trafficked women? instead he said "yeah go continue to take advantage of women in starving countries who have no other means of supporting themselves, oh and dont use a condom" How is that the "best advice"?
    To say what he did was human error is like saying people who kill just made one "error". No sorry, this is thought out and coldblooded and it makes me sick that you would stand up for him. I would not be able to live with myself if I exploited someone like that.
    First of all, you are getting impassioned over misinterpreting my post.

    I was not referring to the fact you said "prostitute". I was referring to the tone you took, which I interpreted as a negative tone TOWARDS prostitutes. If that was not the case, then I apologize.

    Secondly, the Doctor did not do something thought out and "cold blooded". It is NOT his position to dish out MORAL advice. It is his position to give out MEDICAL advice. He did NOT say to refrain from using condoms with the prostitute in question. He said with his current partner, which by this time, the infection ( if there WAS one) has passed ( advice which I am iffy on). I am also assuming you skipped the part in my post about NGU also being caused by non-STD pathogens. Since it has also been pointed out it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY he received the NGU from the woman in Thailand in question due to the premature presentation of symptoms, he and his partner ( whom he should be honest with ), should be re-tested and carry on.

    I don't think this is so much about you having an issue with the Dr who gave the advice. I think it's you are passionate about stopping human trafficking, which I am as well! I expressed in my previous post how hobbyists keep me up at night. I am not disqualifying the fact that prostitution acts should be safe, between two CONSENTING adults, in controlled environments, such as legal brothels. Those women have access to medical care, classes, and panic buttons.

    If you feel so strongly about it, I suggest getting active! Donate to organisations that help try to stop human trafficking. Educate others on what they can do as well. The best thing to do with anger is to channel it into promoting change.

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    If you're stupid enough to fuck random people (especially prostitutes in a foreign country that you have NO idea about) without a condom, then you deserve any disease that you get. What a retard.

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    my tone is negative towards men who buy trafficked prostitutes. its not negative towards prostitutes in general. Clearly you want to think badly of me so you assume my tone is negative towards the victim and not the predator.

    Rockell, I totally agree that this man deserves any and all stds he gets. Its sad that he has to bring them home to a probably clueless girlfriend though.

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    Trafficking Humans is sick and completely third world, and it happens even here in the US. Its been a huge deal in the recent years in Houston Tx, I speak form experince of my time there. Prositution of ones self should be consentual, not everyone can handle or understand the job at that. but its so sick that it happens to people who want nothing to do with the lifestyle, and any person that would buy one of these girls should be punished, and I think him getting an STD was the least that could happen for his funky 20 bucks, if that. I recently saw a special I happened to catch on tv about women in fogein countries whose lifesyles forced them into prostution and these women will take on multipule men at a time who are burtal and beat them and basically rape them, tie them up, choak them out and come up with other sick things to do to them. They work these madams that beat the hell outta them if coustomers complain. The madam will book them overnight with these vloient men, and these women do it for anywhere between 5 and 18 dollars. All night. So yes, he deserves whatever the outcome of it was, we have no idea what actually happened to that girl. He should be thankful thats the least of it.

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    Honestly as much as it sucks being forced into prostitution it's still money and while this guy is disgusting in his disregard for his girlfriend's health not every man buying sex with a Thai prostitute is abusive.

    There are prostitutes in Cambodia fighting to try and make their job a job like any other and I'm sure that many of them only do it because they have no other way to keep themselves afloat. But not having anyone buy their services is not helping them!

    Oh and I'm shocked about the "don't need to worry about condoms" comment from a dr but otherwise yeah it's his job to give out medical advice - just like drs shouldn't be handing out judgements if you need the morning after pill, even if they can't stand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juelz View Post
    Trafficking Humans is sick and completely third world, and it happens even here in the US. Its been a huge deal in the recent years in Houston Tx, I speak form experince of my time there. Prositution of ones self should be consentual, not everyone can handle or understand the job at that. but its so sick that it happens to people who want nothing to do with the lifestyle, and any person that would buy one of these girls should be punished, and I think him getting an STD was the least that could happen for his funky 20 bucks, if that. I recently saw a special I happened to catch on tv about women in fogein countries whose lifesyles forced them into prostution and these women will take on multipule men at a time who are burtal and beat them and basically rape them, tie them up, choak them out and come up with other sick things to do to them. They work these madams that beat the hell outta them if coustomers complain. The madam will book them overnight with these vloient men, and these women do it for anywhere between 5 and 18 dollars. All night. So yes, he deserves whatever the outcome of it was, we have no idea what actually happened to that girl. He should be thankful thats the least of it.
    What was the documentary called? That is sick. I cant believe people that brutal and cruel exist in the world. To just beat up and rape random people like that? Wtf is wrong with these guys??? I really hope its not human nature to act that way and those guys are just freaks with mental disorders or something. It would be terrifying to think that all men get off on violence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenriswolf View Post
    Honestly as much as it sucks being forced into prostitution it's still money and while this guy is disgusting in his disregard for his girlfriend's health not every man buying sex with a Thai prostitute is abusive.

    There are prostitutes in Cambodia fighting to try and make their job a job like any other and I'm sure that many of them only do it because they have no other way to keep themselves afloat. But not having anyone buy their services is not helping them!

    Oh and I'm shocked about the "don't need to worry about condoms" comment from a dr but otherwise yeah it's his job to give out medical advice - just like drs shouldn't be handing out judgements if you need the morning after pill, even if they can't stand it.
    if these men wanted to help they can easily donate the 5 bucks to the instead of getting a blowjob for 5 bucks. To us 5 bucks is NOTHING, i dont understand why these men feel the need to get their moneys worth for so little money! I dont understand how they wouldnt feel abusive and exploitive doing such a thing! You would think some would have a conscience and pay the normal price for the services- instead of say 12 bucks a fuck maybe they can give them 200 bucks. Or even 50 for chrissakes. Perhaps if there were no sex available for so cheap then no one would have to starve and all prostitutes could make a decent living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkpuff View Post
    my tone is negative towards men who buy trafficked prostitutes. its not negative towards prostitutes in general. Clearly you want to think badly of me so you assume my tone is negative towards the victim and not the predator.
    I'm banging my head against my desk at this point. I stated TWICE that I have nothing but contempt for hobbyists. I also said in my first post I was sleep deprived. I APOLOGISED in my second post to you saying I may have misinterpreted the tone of you post. WTF?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenriswolf View Post
    Honestly as much as it sucks being forced into prostitution it's still money and while this guy is disgusting in his disregard for his girlfriend's health not every man buying sex with a Thai prostitute is abusive.

    There are prostitutes in Cambodia fighting to try and make their job a job like any other and I'm sure that many of them only do it because they have no other way to keep themselves afloat. But not having anyone buy their services is not helping them!


    Oh and I'm shocked about the "don't need to worry about condoms" comment from a dr but otherwise yeah it's his job to give out medical advice - just like drs shouldn't be handing out judgements if you need the morning after pill, even if they can't stand it.
    I agree with you on all three of these points.

    #1) Not every man who buys prostitutes services is a low life, full time hobbyist who expects a naked blowjob with cum on the face etc for $5 and beats the snot out of them. Some are normal guys who are having a one time transaction. With these normal guys, how are they supposed to know if the woman is trafficked or not? For all they know, she could be doing it consensually. I'm assuming most men dont research prostitution and sex workers like we do.

    #2) Good for those girls in Cambodia. Maybe they can get a legal, clean safe brothel there. I am a firm believer of it's your body, do with it what you wish.

    #3) THANK YOU JESUS THAT'S WHAT IVE BEEN TRYING TO SAY ALL ALONG!! I was surprised a bit by the condoms comment but otherwise- Dr's arent there for morality class. They provide a service, and are supposed to be impartial.

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    The sad thing to remember is that many of these trafficked women consider this a step up from the life they left. Consider what a living hell life is in general in some of these countries and NO, I do not condone any of this. It's just a brutal fact.

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    Some of these girls are sold by their parents... the options are: either my kid dies or I will sell her, get some money and keep her alive.... I can't even imagine.... ; (

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    I'm banging my head against my desk at this point. I stated TWICE that I have nothing but contempt for hobbyists. I also said in my first post I was sleep deprived. I APOLOGISED in my second post to you saying I may have misinterpreted the tone of you post. WTF?!



    I agree with you on all three of these points.

    #1) Not every man who buys prostitutes services is a low life, full time hobbyist who expects a naked blowjob with cum on the face etc for $5 and beats the snot out of them. Some are normal guys who are having a one time transaction. With these normal guys, how are they supposed to know if the woman is trafficked or not? For all they know, she could be doing it consensually. I'm assuming most men dont research prostitution and sex workers like we do.

    #2) Good for those girls in Cambodia. Maybe they can get a legal, clean safe brothel there. I am a firm believer of it's your body, do with it what you wish.

    #3) THANK YOU JESUS THAT'S WHAT IVE BEEN TRYING TO SAY ALL ALONG!! I was surprised a bit by the condoms comment but otherwise- Dr's arent there for morality class. They provide a service, and are supposed to be impartial.
    Depending on how flexible your definition of normal is, if they were normal they would either not be buying sex or they would be at least buying sex from a legal brothel (and there are some cheap ones out there) or a high end "escort". I dont understand how any man with even a tiny speck of a heart could go to places where prostitutes are 20 bucks a fuck and live with himself. I think the fact that this prostitution is going on in a third world country and for such ridiculous prices should make it obvious that the women is being trafficked, if not by a pimp, then by the society she lives in in which she feels she has no other choice.

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    Hey mediocrity, I'm glad someone got where I was coming from.

    I don't think these men and women would appreciate privileged white girls (which yeah, includes me FYI!) complaining on their behalf about their richest customers:



    This is what prohibition creates: abuse of sex workers.

    This is not the site I originally went to via a blog I read but it's a good one: http://www.wnu.womynsagenda.org/

    Quote Originally Posted by pinkpuff View Post
    if these men wanted to help they can easily donate the 5 bucks to the instead of getting a blowjob for 5 bucks. To us 5 bucks is NOTHING, i dont understand why these men feel the need to get their moneys worth for so little money! I dont understand how they wouldnt feel abusive and exploitive doing such a thing! You would think some would have a conscience and pay the normal price for the services- instead of say 12 bucks a fuck maybe they can give them 200 bucks. Or even 50 for chrissakes. Perhaps if there were no sex available for so cheap then no one would have to starve and all prostitutes could make a decent living.
    I don't think I've ever read a reply of yours that actually addressed the main point of the person you're disagreeing with.

    Is trafficking fucked? Hell yes. Is being forced into prostitution where it's sort of a choice but... not really fucked? Oh yes, that too. Are white guys who go to countries like Thailand to go on tours of brothels creepy? Ohhh yes!

    But that doesn't mean all men who go to Thai prostitutes get off on degrading women or hurt them in any way. Talking about donating money is missing the point, it's not going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenriswolf View Post
    Hey mediocrity, I'm glad someone got where I was coming from.

    I don't think these men and women would appreciate privileged white girls (which yeah, includes me FYI!) complaining on their behalf about their richest customers:



    This is what prohibition creates:

    This is not the site I originally went to via a blog I read but it's a good one:


    I don't think I've ever read a reply of yours that actually addressed the main point of the person you're disagreeing with.

    Is trafficking fucked? Hell yes. Is being forced into prostitution where it's sort of a choice but... not really fucked? Oh yes, that too. Are white guys who go to countries like Thailand to go on tours of brothels creepy? Ohhh yes!

    But that doesn't mean all men who go to Thai prostitutes get off on degrading women or hurt them in any way. Talking about donating money is missing the point, it's not going to happen.
    You assume I'm white because i see selling sex for 20 bucks a pop and servicing 20 guys a day just to survive as exploitation?
    Im actually from a third world country where sex is sold readily for very cheap.
    Their richest customers are hateful disgusting creeps. If these girls knew how much money they could potentially make they wouldnt be happy servicing so many men just to barely get by. Its like some strippers who are happy with 100 bucks a day. Those of us who make more know that 100 bucks isnt adequate pay for a day of stripping.

    Also, legalization doesn't mean no abuse. Women are still trafficked and abused in places like Amsterdam where it's legal.

    Im sorry but i just cant see how someone with a heart would not feel guilty over buying sex from a girl for only 20 bucks. They KNOW that just to eat this girl has to service probably thousands of men a year. Thats really sad. But I also cant understand how ceos can outsource their work to third world country and pay them 5 bucks a day for 12 hours of work, and other people obviously have no problem with it, so i guess i cant expect other people to understand. And yes some of these workers LIKE working for 5 bucks a day because at least its work and without it they would starve even more, that doesnt make it okay.

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    You know pinkpuff, it's really sad that you aren't able to accept when people disagree with you. No one on this thread has given you any cause for your angry responses. The whole world is not going to see things exactly as you do, and you might be a happier person if you accept that instead of lashing out in anger, which is something I've seen you do constantly on this forum.

    On another note, I think it's absolutely hilarious that you think doctors should force their own personal ethics onto their patients. I wonder how you would feel if you went to the doctor for a checkup and upon finding out you were a stripper the doctor said to you. "Oh, you're one of those dirty, classless whores? Well then, I suggest full STD tests, since I know how you immoral, heathen women are."

    Unprofessional, to say the least.

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    I must be missing something because the referenced post didn't say anything about the woman being abused or forced or trafficked anything. And $20 US is 709 Baht. Maybe that's a fair price there and she wasn't exploited? The guy's a dick for opening his girlfriend up to potential STDs but I don't see where the anger of human trafficking is coming from.
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    ^^ We just assume she was forced into this. You know many women are trafficked into Thailand and forced into prostitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    You know pinkpuff, it's really sad that you aren't able to accept when people disagree with you. No one on this thread has given you any cause for your angry responses. The whole world is not going to see things exactly as you do, and you might be a happier person if you accept that instead of lashing out in anger, which is something I've seen you do constantly on this forum.

    On another note, I think it's absolutely hilarious that you think doctors should force their own personal ethics onto their patients. I wonder how you would feel if you went to the doctor for a checkup and upon finding out you were a stripper the doctor said to you. "Oh, you're one of those dirty, classless whores? Well then, I suggest full STD tests, since I know how you immoral, heathen women are."

    Unprofessional, to say the least.
    My responses arent angry. Theyre more shocked at how lacking in empathy towards people who deserve it most people can be. Funny how a lot of people here are actually empathetic towards the customers. That is just shocking to me. But whatever I am one of those people who couldnt shop at a place like walmart without feeling like a terrible person, most people arent like that, and its a similar situation so I guess some people just dont feel as much guilt as i do when doing stuff that just helps the continuation of exploitation of other humans.
    It would also be very ridiculous for a doctor to say that to me since strippers, by the job description are not exposed to stds. Now if I were to say I was a hooker then maybe I wouldnt be shocked at a response like that. I know every time i go to the doctor for that type of check up they are judging me, even before i was a stripper I knew they were judging me. I am young and sexually active, that is reason enough for them to think im a dirty disgusting whore and i know the doctors most likely did think that. Sure they dont verbalize it, but its only human nature to judge. Aside from that i think being a sex worker and being someone who exploits trafficked women and cheats on his spouse are two completely different things. One person is not hurting anyone, the other one is hurting two people. I'm not saying he should have called him names, but I am saying that the advice he gave was a bit too accepting and that his suggestion to NOT change his lifestyle and not use condoms is just insane. Thats like me telling a doctor that I have fantasies about murdering people and that doctor telling me to continue on having those fantasies and NOT seek help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Luscious View Post
    I must be missing something because the referenced post didn't say anything about the woman being abused or forced or trafficked anything. And $20 US is 709 Baht. Maybe that's a fair price there and she wasn't exploited? The guy's a dick for opening his girlfriend up to potential STDs but I don't see where the anger of human trafficking is coming from.
    anyone providing services in such cheap places such as thailand is in fact trafficked, maybe not in the traditional sense of being forced by another PERSON but being forced by society because they live in such a fucked up society that that is their only option. perhaps it is decent money for them...that doesnt make it right that people pay 500 plus for airfare there to fuck girls for 20 bucks...because its okay to spend 500 bucks on a plane ride but god forbid they spend it on a girl. just seems fucked up to me how some guys do this.
    i once met a guy at the club who said he loves going to latin america because the girls there are appreciative of the pennies he gives them. from the sounds of it these girls had to sexualy satisfy him as well. He was basically complaining that american girls value themselves too much and think too highly of themselves and that he likes south american girls cuz they are starving poor and so they are happy for any little hand out that they get. To me that just seems so fucked up. He basically is taking advantage of these girls who are in dire need. He could never handle an independent woman. Its not cool to take advantage of someone else's misery. Just because a woman is happy to get like 5 bucks for sex doesnt mean she isnt being exploited. we are worth so much more than that!

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