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    Sometimes i get into a club and find a dancer that just does it for me---her dancing---her personality---just all the way around. I have found one such dancer in tulsa that i will be going back to in a couple of weeks. i would just like to cut to the chase and buy the night from her but am not sure how to go about it. I know-- easy offer her an amount and see what she says. My concern is if she understands that she would exclusively be with me except for stage time. I would want this for the simple fact that i do not have to worry about down time between dances and losing her. Who wants nonstop dances for 3 hours. I tend to get a couple of dances then like to chat----which i know the dancers are not making money chatting---i just do not want that many dances that quickly but twice now i have found a dancer that i do not want to let go during my down time as i call it so she can go make money--only because sometimes she will get so busy that i have to wait forever. like i said i am going to see her in a couple of weeks and she has actually only danced for me one night for 4 dances and that was a month ago.
    this is a ld club only with no vip that run 20.00 per song.
    to the dancers out there what do you think and what would be fair with a tip at the end of course....i usually go in from 11:00-2:00

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    Just ask her if she is interested in being your dancer exclusively for X block of time and if so how much would she charge you. Seems pretty straight forward to me. Unless you give her creepy vibes or something I'm confident she would give the idea consideration and not be put off by the question. i've done it and I know lots of other junkies who have as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    Just ask her if she is interested in being your dancer exclusively for X block of time and if so how much would she charge you. Seems pretty straight forward to me. Unless you give her creepy vibes or something I'm confident she would give the idea consideration and not be put off by the question. i've done it and I know lots of other junkies who have as well.

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    +1 Make it clear that she wouldn't be dancing too much, but you'd like to pay for her company.

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    Oh, and my general rule for sitting with someone:
    I charge 1/2 of the hourly VIP pricing. So if a 1hr VIP is 500, and my cut is 400, I would charge 200-250/hr for sitting.

    Since you have no VIPs at this club, I'd say assume she does 20 dances/hr. That's 400/hr potential. I say it's fair to ask if you can have her sit with you for x amount of hours for 150-200/hr.

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    ^^ Thanks for adding real numbers. They should be helpful for the OP. I was commenting more on the concept (of which he seems a bit fearful) of locking in a dancer for a block of time. It really does make a lot of sense if it is a gal you really like.

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    ^ Exactly what I was going to suggest. Say something like " I want a few dances per hour, but would also like to cover your time and not lose you to stage sets" or something else. Otoki's #'s would work for me. Or if you want to spend an hour or so with her without dances, say so ( and let her know you might want a couple hours beyond that too). I am so much more relaxed and at ease if I have a clear idea of how I'm going to make my money. You probably are smart enough to figure out you should go about an hour at a time (pay per for one hour at first , not all at once).

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    i've done it and I know lots of other junkies who have as well
    OMG---i have become a junkie


    Since you have no VIPs at this club, I'd say assume she does 20 dances/hr. That's 400/hr potential. I say it's fair to ask if you can have her sit with you for x amount of hours for 150-200/hr
    kind of a small club with maybe 15-20 girls. i always go on thursday night which seems to be slow for them. i was figuring 150 hour with tip at end.....that was based on what it looked like the dancers were earning per hour in this club. If she was dancing 15 per hour i would be compelled to do more....but isnt 15 and hour pretty hard to find and kinda rough on the dancer. I do want to make sure she is taken care of and do not want to offer to little----i tend to take care of with the tip. She would not be dancing near as much for me and i know you all say it doesnt matters but i still think you rather dance with a nice looking respectful thirty something yeah i know its not a reward but damn give me the choice to dance for roseanne barr or Kate Beckinsal and it would be easy.


    am so much more relaxed and at ease if I have a clear idea of how I'm going to make my money. You probably are smart enough to figure out you should go about an hour at a time (pay per for one hour at first , not all at once).
    Exactly what i want---get the money out of the way and drink dance and have a good time. I did think about the hour at a time to give both of us an out if needed.
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    none of us can tell you what amount -she- would be ok with. i've had customers do this in the past and i actually prefer it. i personally would charge 150 an hour, but not if you wanted to do "15 dances". since, 15 dances would be 300 dollars if i were getting paid for each. i'm not doing that many dances for 1/2 price

    one of my favorite customers would always come in, hand me 200 or 300 bucks, and tell me to "dance for 1/2 of it". of course, we knew each other so there was a certain amount of trust involved. basically, i would dance for a song or two... then we'd sit for a little bit or tip girls on stage... then i'd dance a bit more... etc. if he'd given me 300, i would do about 8 dances with some break songs in between each 2 or 3. at the end of the 8, i would subtly tell him the time was up. at that point he would either leave or go to the ATM. i like customers who set up consistent routines like that. why? because it gets it all out of the way, like you said. it's really stressful for us, with regulars, when we don't know "what they're going to do today".

    for example, one guy came to see me 3 times in a row. so, he was sort of "becoming a regular". the first time he came in he got 3 or 4 dances over the course of an hour or two, sat and bought drinks, and at the end of that time paid for the dances and gave me an "extra" 100 bucks for sitting. second time, same exact thing. third time, he gave me a 20 dollar tip instead of 100 and told me "sorry, i've just been spending too much".

    ok. thanks. that information would have been better received BEFORE i spent all that down time with you. then it becomes an awkward situation because i have to politely explain that 100 dollars is enough for me to justify all of that non-dancing and 20 dollars just isn't. so, that's why i like doing everything up front (with regulars anyway).

    sorry that was so long

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    but not if you wanted to do "15 dances
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    Just to clarify i meant if she average 15 an hour hustling from one customer to another. i am probably a max 8 an hour and that is really really pushing it and if the conversation is good (some you just click with or they know how to feign interest really well lol )it would tend to be a small part of the hour.

    so i take it that guaranteed money per hour is fine as long as you pay what the dancer would average and let the tip at the end be the bonus. I just do not want to insult anyone with the offer but yet do not want to be put into the position of hearing an outrageous request either. wouldnt that turn the tables on the custy---with us getting the outrageous request

    a thousand for 3 hours in vegas or new orleans with a vip room visit i understand but i would be a little put off in a small club with no vip. i do not want to short change anyone but i do not want to revert back to my first club experience either. I was pretty toasty with credit card in hand ) and oh how she helped me use it.

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    i think in a small club. 150 an hour guaranteed with some dancing would be fine. in fact i'm sure she will be quite relived to know she has a set amount coming.
    second on paying hourly. some girls are flakes and may wonder off if you pay all up front. also let her know you will tip at the end of the time for a good time.
    god i miss customers like you that plan ahead and want us both to have a good time and not worry about money the whole time.
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    uhhhhhg me too.

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    Wait so you want about 8 dances an hour and you want to pay her $150 an hour? Um, isnt that shorting her if the dances are $20 a pop? I am not seeing how this would be a good deal.

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    Even if they don't straight up offer some kind of CR/extended LD deal, you should make it clear that you want to spend SERIOUS money at the club (which it sounds like you do)...and that should motivate both the dancer and the club to make something work. Ask the dancer if she can work out a deal with the lapdance bouncer/club where you can buy a certain amount of time in the LD room for a certain amount.

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    Madision--that would be 8 max and very unlikely especially if i have a talker with me.

    with the tip at the end i would definetely make up any difference. not to mention if i am getting 8 dances an hour than i probably would cut it after the first hour.

    Charlie--10 Couches around the club no rooms everything wide open. But i think i will end up just asking what she wants.

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    oh please i'm sure she will be fine with three hours. if not she will say so. i think YOU are thinking to much. in these times most of us will be happy to sit and make money while at work.
    i seriously doubt she will turn it down. if he wants to spend 450 on the girl let him. he said it was a small club that wasnt busy. we arent talking manhattan or vegas here.
    i sure the hell dont have to "trust" and get to know a customer to sit for 3 hours.
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    I thought you were looking for 3-4 dances an hour and the rest of the time talking ........

    I highly doubt she would have a problem with the numbers we are discussing unless it's already the busiest time in the club ( after Midnight most days or after 10 fri/sat for my club ). I think she'd be happy to accept especially if you walked in early on in her shift.

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    ^^^^ yes
    and we will see tomorrow night.

    i thought i had posted that i was giving an out for both of us after each hour.

    Anyway i will be there tomorrow and i will let you all know.

    thanks for the advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    ^^ Thanks for adding real numbers. They should be helpful for the OP. I was commenting more on the concept (of which he seems a bit fearful) of locking in a dancer for a block of time. It really does make a lot of sense if it is a gal you really like.

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    Definitely. I love doing hours. My club lets us charge up to 250/hr, for dancing or sitting.

    Quote Originally Posted by carmen_b View Post
    ^ Exactly what I was going to suggest. Say something like " I want a few dances per hour, but would also like to cover your time and not lose you to stage sets" or something else. Otoki's #'s would work for me. Or if you want to spend an hour or so with her without dances, say so ( and let her know you might want a couple hours beyond that too). I am so much more relaxed and at ease if I have a clear idea of how I'm going to make my money. You probably are smart enough to figure out you should go about an hour at a time (pay per for one hour at first , not all at once).
    This is also fantastic advice. That way, if a reg comes in, or the girl gets really tired, or something else comes up, the dancer won't have to feel like she's hurting your feelings, and you won't have to worry about sticking with a dancer for three hours when she ended up not being interesting after an hour (unlikely, but anything can happen )

    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny View Post
    for example, one guy came to see me 3 times in a row. so, he was sort of "becoming a regular". the first time he came in he got 3 or 4 dances over the course of an hour or two, sat and bought drinks, and at the end of that time paid for the dances and gave me an "extra" 100 bucks for sitting. second time, same exact thing. third time, he gave me a 20 dollar tip instead of 100 and told me "sorry, i've just been spending too much".

    ok. thanks. that information would have been better received BEFORE i spent all that down time with you. then it becomes an awkward situation because i have to politely explain that 100 dollars is enough for me to justify all of that non-dancing and 20 dollars just isn't. so, that's why i like doing everything up front (with regulars anyway).
    I agree. Tipping is fine and all, but make sure the girl is cool with the concept of 150/hr (UP FRONT) with a potential tip.

    Quote Originally Posted by echomadison View Post
    Wait so you want about 8 dances an hour and you want to pay her $150 an hour? Um, isnt that shorting her if the dances are $20 a pop? I am not seeing how this would be a good deal.
    This didn't make sense to me either.

    Quote Originally Posted by stressed View Post
    Madision--that would be 8 max and very unlikely especially if i have a talker with me.

    with the tip at the end i would definetely make up any difference. not to mention if i am getting 8 dances an hour than i probably would cut it after the first hour.
    If you do more than 7 dances with her, I would tip her 20 for each dance after that so she'll know she's not getting cheated. Even if you say you'll tip at the end, there's no guarantee that you will (in her mind) so I would be conscientious about how many dances you do, and tipping for any that go over the 150 mark

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    Strip clubs are all about tension. For the customer; how sensual will the dance be and for the dancer; how much is in the pocket of the customer. Without the tension then you are just paying for a very expensive conversation.

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    ^ ? No ..... they don't have to be all about tension.

    Original Poster, how did it go ?

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    Yes, I want an update!

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    i reached the club in tulsa OK. after watching florida beat them for the national championship and the club was decked out with balloons and everyone was sad.

    Charlie--(the dancer)--was with a group of people for the first 45 minutes and i couldnt get her attention because of the floor layout.

    some group had bought part of the clubs area for the night and it was roped off---she got in there before i could catch her she danced once for them in about 40 minutes and my employee with me was ready to go---it was lame with no one dancing nor even asking to dance--he brought a good amount of money with him and only spent 120.00 on 2 girls.

    as soon as charlie came down i caught her and of course she was going to the poles---she banked well on the stages and i tipped her twice for about 20 dollars-it was enough to get her to me directly after her set.

    less than an hour left--she danced the 4 songs for me and we talked about how she didnt realize that i was trying to get her attention all night and wished i would have just barged in and told her---blahhhhhhhhh

    anyway i asked her if she has ever went by the hour and she said she was offered 100/hr before and told the guy to kiss off but that 150 would be more like it. I told her what i had planned and she said to definetely call her when i came back into town. she wanted to give me her number--but i did not have my phone on me so she took mine down and i told her to send me a text---and we could set up the next time about 4-6weeks from now unless something goes wrong with the job site

    on a side note i actually got to talk to her that night and i think she will be a lot of fun and i already know that we like the same music when she told me that she picks all of her stage music and she played Metallica--------One

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    Looks like you had the misfortune of a football game crowd and bad timing. Two pieces of advice for next time:

    1. Call or e-mail her in advance next time to prearrange your playtime. I have yet to meet any dancer worth her salt who minded trading the "what if" of hustling for the lucrative proceeds of a sure thing (assuming the sure thing isn't a headcase).

    2. If you get to the club, and she is preoccupied, don't be afraid to ask a waitress to hunt her down. Be sure to tip her a gracious finder's fee for delivering the goods.

    I'm sure with your intentions known, things will run much smoother next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish View Post
    Looks like you had the misfortune of a football game crowd and bad timing. Two pieces of advice for next time:

    1. Call or e-mail her in advance next time to prearrange your playtime. I have yet to meet any dancer worth her salt who minded trading the "what if" of hustling for the lucrative proceeds of a sure thing (assuming the sure thing isn't a headcase).

    2. If you get to the club, and she is preoccupied, don't be afraid to ask a waitress to hunt her down. Be sure to tip her a gracious finder's fee for delivering the goods.

    I'm sure with your intentions known, things will run much smoother next time.

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    $250 an hour and $400 in the prime money making time which happens to be between 11pm and 2am.




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