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  • My opinion of dancers is much better after reading this site

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  • My opinion of dancers is better after reading this site

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  • My opinion of dancers is unchanged

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Thread: Question for customers: effect of SW on you.

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    Default Question for customers: effect of SW on you.

    This poll follows on from the last one I posted about customer motivations. In that poll, the actual response differed from the one I expected. One explanation of the difference was that customer perceptions of dancers have been affected by the posts on this site.

    So, I'm curious. If you're a customer, has your perception of dancers been affected by what you have read - and if so, was it in a good or a bad way?

    For example, has reading posts about the stresses a dancer undergoes made you more understanding of them? Or has finding out their primary motivation for dancing is the money lowered your estimation of them?

    Polite responses only please!

    Phil.

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    Default Re: Question for customers: effect of SW on you.

    I would say better. Reading about how some of the girls are shy approaching customers and scared of rejection, or some of the stresses they have and the questions they have (especially when the answers are things that as a customer I thought were obvious) -- it's kind of endearing.

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    Default Re: Question for customers: effect of SW on you.

    I'm pretty sure this has been asked before Phil...

    Be that as it may, my answer is the same. Nothing I have ever read here has changed my opinion about dancers or strip clubs. Keep in mind that I'm a relatively old fart and was clubbing for many years before the internet existed. I learned a long time ago that women from all walks of life with all sorts of attitudes and approaches can and do become dancers for any number of different reasons. I also learned not to judge any woman for what she does to earn a living at a very young age. The first stripper I really got to know was a friend form college back in the late 1970's. I did not know she danced until one night six or eight months after I met her. I happened to walk into a strip club in Boston's old Combat Zone one night and saw her on stage. Seeing her naked gave me extreme wood but it didn't change what I thought of her as a person. It did give us a little something to laugh about!
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    Default Re: Question for customers: effect of SW on you.

    I'm grateful for the information I've gained from this site. It's helped me to understand the whole situation, and my place in it much better, and has helped my dancer friends quite a bit too.

    I don't have a universal opinion of dancers because of what I've learned as they are all individuals and unique, but every now and then I do one of these:

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    Default Re: Question for customers: effect of SW on you.

    This board has been a wealth of information and a lot of fun, but it hasn't changed my opinion of dancers. I learned a long time ago you have to get to know them one at at time. And, every now and then, one still surprises me. That's a huge part of what makes clubbing fun.

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    Default Re: Question for customers: effect of SW on you.

    I was gonna say that nothing posted here has altered my perception of dancers, but thinking about it a bit more I realized that it had at one point in time. A while back I stopped visiting this site because of the hate I read here on the pink side toward female customers in general. While it's not to say that alot of that hate is very much deserved (drunk obnoxious college chicks, grabby girls, jealous GF's, etc), it really saddened me. I started to think that EVERY dancer felt that way towards every female customer, which of course is not true. But for awhile I imagined every dancer was a hater. It didn't take long for the fine ladies at my fave clubs to convince me otherwise. Now I'm at peace with it. I only hope that one day some of the anti-women customer dancers will run into someone like me, to maybe change their minds a bit.

    Nowadays I avoid reading anything other than the Customer Conversation section. Keeps my blood pressure in check!

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    Default Re: Question for customers: effect of SW on you.

    My opinion of Dancers is unchanged, but my opinion of the Stripclub experience is serverely diminished. Before you realize the true opinion of many dancers toward their customers it is easy to believe that dances (or even watching dancers on stage) could be harmless and fun. Not that I thought that dancers liked the experience, but at worst thought it neutral. After reading the posts of many dancers that exhibit great amounts of disdain for customers. It makes going much less appealing.

    I love women and would go to clubs in between relationships because I like the interaction and intelligent conversation that you can get with many dancers, but watching someone smile at you that you know is thinking "This disgusting perverted fucker better have some money to pay for this smile/dance/conversation" taints the interaction. It is impossible to enjoy something that another person finds repugnant/objectionable.

    I used to think about the club experience like a (legitimate)massage (or any other service, but massage is probably the closest. ). Your massage therapist doesn't get off on rubbing your back, but does it as a part of the job. They may complain a little about not wanting to massage some people, but in the final analysis it isn't horrible to them and they look at it neutrally. Stripping seems to be much more objectionable.

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    Default Re: Question for customers: effect of SW on you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve123 View Post
    watching someone smile at you that you know is thinking "This disgusting perverted fucker better have some money to pay for this smile/dance/conversation" taints the interaction. It is impossible to enjoy something that another person finds repugnant/objectionable.
    you know, if you are respecting the dancers boundaries, paying for her time, and are generally being polite... chances are she's not thinking those things at all. MOST of us actually enjoy sitting with/dancing for customers who are polite and (of course) pay us for doing our job. sure, there are some girls who hate every single guy that walks in the door, but they are actually a minority, by far.

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    Default Re: Question for customers: effect of SW on you.

    my stance stands. working for free makes her an idiot (maybe idiot is too harsh).

    and i also think going to a club, sitting with a dancer (especially over several visits) and not spending money on her is incredibly thoughtless and rude. going to a strip club often to see if a dancer is going to sit with you for free because "maybe she likes me" is (in my opinion) immature, selfish, and manipulative.

    i have, in the past, had customers who spent a decent amount of money, came back another day and did the same... then came back another day and sat there without spending to "see if i would stay". did i? of course not. was it because i didn't "like" them? no ....... but i probably don't like them -anymore- because testing me like that makes them one of those customers who wants to play games... and i don't like people who want to play games while i'm trying to make a living.
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    Default Re: Question for customers: effect of SW on you.

    also, what does "already made enough money" even mean? why does it matter how much she made from other customers? she still shouldn't be doing her job for free. it sounds like you might be implying the customers who DO spend money on her are "suckers" and i really hope that isn't what you think.

    if a waitress at a restaurant got a good tip from the table before yours, would you still tip her?

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    Default Re: Question for customers: effect of SW on you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W View Post
    That scenario is about as common as rocking horse shit. If a dancer does genuinely like a customer she's far more likely to suggest that they meet OTC and take the SC out of the equation.

    From my experience dancers do not sit with customers for free unless they don't know any better (100% agreement with Pretty_Penny on that one). Dancers are one-women businesses - and they go into work to earn money. End of story.

    Phil.
    thanx. also, there's "liking" someone and then there's "LIKING" someone. a dancer can like a customer in a friendly way without wanting anything romantic or sexual to evolve (of course). and, i agree with you that if a dancer -does- want something romantic/sexual to occur, 95% of the time... she will let the customer know.

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    Default Re: Question for customers: effect of SW on you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve123 View Post
    I used to think about the club experience like a (legitimate)massage (or any other service, but massage is probably the closest. ). Your massage therapist doesn't get off on rubbing your back, but does it as a part of the job. They may complain a little about not wanting to massage some people, but in the final analysis it isn't horrible to them and they look at it neutrally. Stripping seems to be much more objectionable.
    Stripping isn't "horrible" unless the customer is being a disgusting prick. Sure, your massage therapist doesn't get off on rubbing your back, but try shoving your fingers into her vagina or grabbing one of her tits and giving it a nice bite during your massage and see if she reacts better or worse than the women who post here.

    It happens to us, the guy gets thrown out. Pull that shit at a legitimate spa and your ass is going to jail. You better believe a massage therapist wouldn't look at that neutrally, and there's no reason we should either.

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